Sanders will increase wealth of ordinary Americans

[rishaed]

Many people just refuse to donate to charity regardless of their tax rate.

I'll have to look this one up, but I recall hearing an argument where charity rates is linked to the involvement of the highest level of Government. The argument was that over time, people get used to the notion that the "government" can do it, so they are less likely to do it themselves.

Here is the World Giving Index

Click image to enlarge.

That's why organized religion MUST start paying taxes!

Huh... What happened to separation of church and state. I'd insert a facepalm here, but thats just me. Keep your money grubbing fingers off NFP's. What you are suggesting is basically anywhere from a double to triple tax on the money.
Also did mrswdk the great supporter of the CCP really say this?!

When you start walking up to a man who has toiled hard all week for his paycheck, and you force him to hand over that paycheck for the 'common good', you Sir are a communist.

That might work for people like Stalin and Mao, but in America no one has yet taken away the guns. The citizens still have power, and as a result they still have their freedom.

With the citizens in charge, reds like Bernie, who would pilfer the pockets of every single American, will never take power.

Mind = Blown.

[waauw]

That's why organized religion MUST start paying taxes!

Huh... What happened to separation of church and state. I'd insert a facepalm here, but thats just me. Keep your money grubbing fingers off NFP's. What you are suggesting is basically anywhere from a double to triple tax on the money.

Aren't religions non-profit organizations? Or are they different in the US? Because if they are the same as here I don't see the point in taxing them.

[rishaed]

That's why organized religion MUST start paying taxes!

Huh... What happened to separation of church and state. I'd insert a facepalm here, but thats just me. Keep your money grubbing fingers off NFP's. What you are suggesting is basically anywhere from a double to triple tax on the money.

Aren't religions non-profit organizations? Or are they different in the US? Because if they are the same as here I don't see the point in taxing them.

Yes. Any religous organization here is a nonprofit organization. I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of Bernies statement that we must Tax Churches/Religious groups. That and the fact that the government needs to keep their dirty grubbing fingers off of the nonProf's. Any money given to them is already filtered into Income tax, and then they have to pay property tax and other taxes for the building in use. What Bernie is suggesting is literally a triple tax on a set of money to be put in the wasteful hands of politicians (DEF: Blood Sucking Leeches) who are inefficient and corrupt. That and the fact that most of the organizations including food pantries, homeless shelters, and other helps for the poor are run by churches or nonprofits (which if your are going to tax churches you must tax them as well) in the US. Ultimately his suggestion hurts the poor more than it would help them. Its pure idiocy. Thanks Bernie.

[Dukasaur]

Many people just refuse to donate to charity regardless of their tax rate.

I'll have to look this one up, but I recall hearing an argument where charity rates is linked to the involvement of the highest level of Government. The argument was that over time, people get used to the notion that the "government" can do it, so they are less likely to do it themselves.

Here is the World Giving Index

(giving map)

It's true that more affluent countries give more, but most of that money is raised from the lower-middle class. Despite big photo-op cheques handed over by the rich, the overwhelming majority of charity fundraising focuses on people who are either just scraping by or slightly higher.

Meanwhile, study after study after study confirms that the rich tend to be pricks, like this one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/02/27/rich-people-less-ethical-study_n_1304800.html

[Bernie Sanders]

Why not tax Churches?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/08/22/churches_should_be_taxed_then_everyone_can_speak.html



Churches are becoming increasingly more involved with politics and we have politicians trying to force feed Americans their brand of religion.

[hotfire]

Scandanavia gives a lot more to developing countries than the US... a lot more...even Canada does

[mrswdk]

Is that how you pronounce your name? I always read it in my head as 'wow', as in 'oh wow that guy seriously believes that the Scarborough Shoal belongs to the Philippines'.

Waauw is pronounced as 'waʊw', as in 'It's astounding how mrswdk has an off-switch for critical thinking'.

That's the same as what I said.

[mrswdk]

And thus the citizenry were picked up and placed at the top of the slippery slope by Chairman Waauw.

Does that mean you will clean my feet?

[waauw]

And thus the citizenry were picked up and placed at the top of the slippery slope by Chairman Waauw.

Does that mean you will clean my feet?

I'm sorry I don't speak sign-language.

[mrswdk]

Chuh. It's the Philippine equivalent of the middle finger.

[GoranZ]

Back on Bernie's free shit

[waauw]

Chuh. It's the Philippine equivalent of the middle finger.

That can't be true. The philippine version of the middle finger is bowls of dry rice thrown at your face while being called a 'baboy'.

[tzor]

I'm sorry I don't speak sign-language.

Fig sign is a gesture made with the hand and fingers curled and the thumb thrust between the middle and index fingers, or, rarely, the middle and ring fingers, forming the fist so that the thumb partly pokes out. In some areas of the world[which?], the gesture is considered a good luck charm; in others (including Greece, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Russia, Serbia and Turkey among others), it is considered an obscene gesture. The precise origin of the gesture is unknown, but many historians speculate that it refers to a penis penetrating the female genitalia (to which The Finger also refers). In ancient Greece, this gesture was a fertility and good luck charm designed to ward off evil. This usage has survived in Portugal and Brazil, where carved images of hands in this gesture are used in good luck talismans.[11]

?

[rishaed]

Why not tax Churches?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/08/22/churches_should_be_taxed_then_everyone_can_speak.html



Churches are becoming increasingly more involved with politics and we have politicians trying to force feed Americans their brand of religion.

Yes. Go blame government decisions on the Church! That makes perfect sense! WHEEEEEEEE! Are you an idiot? Everyone can already speak. Thats what the entire "free Speech" thing is. Quite different from seperation of church and state. Go back and learn your amendments mate.

[Bernie Sanders]

Why not tax Churches?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/08/22/churches_should_be_taxed_then_everyone_can_speak.html



I support your stand on Churches, they need to stop the backing of candidates that want more religious power in government

Thanks rishaed! Always nice to see your intellectual and well thought out responses.

[GoranZ]

Thanks rishaed! Always nice to see your intellectual and well thought out responses.

Nice to see your LIES also...

[2dimes]

And thus the citizenry were picked up and placed at the top of the slippery slope by Chairman Waauw.

Does that mean you will clean my feet?

I'm sorry I don't speak sign-language.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/I%27ve_got_your_nose

[waauw]

And thus the citizenry were picked up and placed at the top of the slippery slope by Chairman Waauw.

Does that mean you will clean my feet?

I'm sorry I don't speak sign-language.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/I%27ve_got_your_nose

lol!

[Dukasaur]

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/media-unimpressed-as-sanders-barely-gets-seventy-per-cent-of-vote

The major cable networks briefly mentioned Sanders’s vote tallies in Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii but noted that he ran out of steam well shy of eighty per cent.

“There’s no point in sugarcoating it,” one analyst put it. “Rough night for Sanders.”

[GoranZ]

[jgordon1111]

These topics do amuse, think about this

[mrswdk]

Moreover, what is material wealth when you are lacking the greatest wealth of all, the love of your fellow humans?

#oneworld

[tzor]

These topics do amuse, think about this what is rich? If your talking paper money rich, you have already lost the fight, when was the last time your employer or govt offered you gold,silver,copper, crude oil, land, natural gas as a reward for you LABOR?

When was the last time your employer gave you dollar bills as a reward for your labor? I've been getting electronic bits directly deposited from one account to another for years now. Ironically, I can use those bits to buy gold, silver, ... which I actually have done so.

[jgordon1111]

These topics do amuse, think about this what is rich? If your talking paper money rich, you have already lost the fight, when was the last time your employer or govt offered you gold,silver,copper, crude oil, land, natural gas as a reward for you LABOR?

When was the last time your employer gave you dollar bills as a reward for your labor? I've been getting electronic bits directly deposited from one account to another for years now. Ironically, I can use those bits to buy gold, silver, ... which I actually have done so.

Oh yes at an inflated rate of course, shall we have the conversation again about getting $1.00 Or 50 cent pieces at your local bank again?

[Bernie Sanders]

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/media-unimpressed-as-sanders-barely-gets-seventy-per-cent-of-vote

The major cable networks briefly mentioned Sanders’s vote tallies in Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii but noted that he ran out of steam well shy of eighty per cent.

“There’s no point in sugarcoating it,” one analyst put it. “Rough night for Sanders.”

This was a landslide victory for Bernie Sanders. Now he's pressing Hillary for another debate before the New York primary.

Hillary is crying about the negative campaign advertising from Bernie Sanders. My GOD! is she sensitive or what? Sanders has been hitting her with soft fluffy pillows.