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Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 4:35 pm

So I'm starting a garden outside my new place. It's a small yard but full sun throughout so I have plenty of space to grow everything. So far I've put out two rows of pole beans, one of cayenne peppers on the other side, one hill of squash, a strawberry plant and some tomato plants that I haven't put in the ground yet (waiting for them to get a bit bigger and therefore not as likely to be taken out by cutworms. Made some preparation for those but they still managed to get two of my pole beans and one of my peppers.) Anyways about the time my first beans were coming up a couple weeks ago I noticed what I at first looked like it was a stray pepper seedling in the spot where I wanted to put one of my tomatoes. However I had only put the peppers out a day or two before and they weren't due to sprout yet. Curious as it did not look like any weed I had seen in this area before, Ive let it grow a bit (I can always remove it later if need be) and now it appears to be a young eggplant seedling as far as I can tell. Now I don't know anything about eggplants. I don't even know how it got there as I've never grown them nor do I know any of my neighbors who do. So my question is assuming this is indeed an eggplant. Should I keep it and let it grow? Do they do well in North Georgia climate? And do they need any special care that I might not be giving to my other plants? Most likely to let this grow I will have to find a new place for one of my tomatoes which I didn't want to do because the best spot is where I had them last year and I know you should grow plants in the same spots (especially tomatoes ).
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 4:42 pm

I don't know much about the climate, but if it is an eggplant, it will need space. If you can carefully remove it and it replant, you might get a nice surprise. If it's not an eggplant, you lose nothing by moving it, but gain by moving a weed away.

Kind of a win win for moving, I'd say.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 4:51 pm

Moving is a good idea. Though I don't think space is a problem. Thanks. I know theyre related to peppers and tomatoes so I'm guessing they like very rich soil?
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 4:58 pm

strike wolf wrote:Moving is a good idea. Though I don't think space is a problem. Thanks. I know theyre related to peppers and tomatoes so I'm guessing they like very rich soil?


They do, they're very similar to tomatoes. At least when I've grown them in the past. They tend to spread sideways as they fruit, so that's why they need a bit of space. Not miles away, of course, but room enough so they can fruit without crowding out other plants, or being crowded out themselves.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby RiskTycoon on Tue May 03, 2016 4:59 pm

From my years of gardening I've learned that crop rotation is very important.
I would remove the seedling. And never look back.

Why waste time and energy cultivating a plant you don't know where it came from. Some plants grow better from true "seed" stock... Like potatoes...
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 6:47 pm

RiskTycoon wrote:From my years of gardening I've learned that crop rotation is very important.
I would remove the seedling. And never look back.

Why waste time and energy cultivating a plant you don't know where it came from. Some plants grow better from true "seed" stock... Like potatoes...


I don't think he's trying to grow crops, mate.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 6:56 pm

Just a moderate sized home garden.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 7:01 pm

What's North Georgia like climate-wise anyway?
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 7:19 pm

Symmetry wrote:What's North Georgia like climate-wise anyway?


Highs of 60s to 80s in spring. 60s mostly mid March to early april. 70s in April. High 70s to 80s in May. Last frost usually hits in early April after a warming trend in March. Summer temp usually in 90s from June to early September with the warmest weeks being the last one of July and first two of August. Tempo tend to remain high until late September than drop off quickly into the 70s and 60s as it moves into late Septemberand october. Mild winters usually doesnt drop much below 30s. Humidity in spring usually is fairly high, would have to look up an exact number, and only increases towards summer (90% is not an uncommon number and pop up thunder showers are common). Fall and Winter are much drier on average. Spring (especially may) tends to be the rainy season with the most consistent medium heavy rains. Summer will have deluges and then go dry for weeks at a time and is pretty much un predictable. Combined with the high temps, plants can dry out quickly. Fall especially October is the driest time of year. Last I checked my area averages about 42" of annual rainfall.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby RiskTycoon on Tue May 03, 2016 7:20 pm

Symmetry wrote:
RiskTycoon wrote:From my years of gardening I've learned that crop rotation is very important.
I would remove the seedling. And never look back.

Why waste time and energy cultivating a plant you don't know where it came from. Some plants grow better from true "seed" stock... Like potatoes...


I don't think he's trying to grow crops, mate.


lol go Google it.... Even in a home garden it can be beneficial.

You think pests and disease that target that specific plant are going to pack up and leave the soil you keep planting their main source of food in do you?

Go read.

Legumes do nitrogen fixation which can help in companion planting, crop rotation and other techniques are well known.

Don't split hairs on the word crop for crying out loud....

Edit: I will conceed that it might not matter what you do in too small a space but practicing the techniques is still good.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 7:32 pm

strike wolf wrote:
Symmetry wrote:What's North Georgia like climate-wise anyway?


Highs of 60s to 80s in spring. 60s mostly mid March to early april. 70s in April. High 70s to 80s in May. Last frost usually hits in early April after a warming trend in March. Summer temp usually in 90s from June to early September with the warmest weeks being the last one of July and first two of August. Tempo tend to remain high until late September than drop off quickly into the 70s and 60s as it moves into late Septemberand october. Mild winters usually doesnt drop much below 30s. Humidity in spring usually is fairly high, would have to look up an exact number, and only increases towards summer (90% is not an uncommon number and pop up thunder showers are common). Fall and Winter are much drier on average. Spring (especially may) tends to be the rainy season with the most consistent medium heavy rains. Summer will have deluges and then go dry for weeks at a time and is pretty much un predictable. Combined with the high temps, plants can dry out quickly. Fall especially October is the driest time of year. Last I checked my area averages about 42" of annual rainfall.


Do root vegetables do well? Those and herbs are my downfall.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 7:39 pm

Symmetry wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Symmetry wrote:What's North Georgia like climate-wise anyway?


Highs of 60s to 80s in spring. 60s mostly mid March to early april. 70s in April. High 70s to 80s in May. Last frost usually hits in early April after a warming trend in March. Summer temp usually in 90s from June to early September with the warmest weeks being the last one of July and first two of August. Tempo tend to remain high until late September than drop off quickly into the 70s and 60s as it moves into late Septemberand october. Mild winters usually doesnt drop much below 30s. Humidity in spring usually is fairly high, would have to look up an exact number, and only increases towards summer (90% is not an uncommon number and pop up thunder showers are common). Fall and Winter are much drier on average. Spring (especially may) tends to be the rainy season with the most consistent medium heavy rains. Summer will have deluges and then go dry for weeks at a time and is pretty much un predictable. Combined with the high temps, plants can dry out quickly. Fall especially October is the driest time of year. Last I checked my area averages about 42" of annual rainfall.


Do root vegetables do well? Those and herbs are my downfall.


You mean like radishes, potatoe, etc? I've never tried growing them myself nor do I know anyone who has tried. Herbs tend to do well. Or at least basil and oregano. Rosemary does decently as well.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Tue May 03, 2016 7:48 pm

strike wolf wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Symmetry wrote:What's North Georgia like climate-wise anyway?


Highs of 60s to 80s in spring. 60s mostly mid March to early april. 70s in April. High 70s to 80s in May. Last frost usually hits in early April after a warming trend in March. Summer temp usually in 90s from June to early September with the warmest weeks being the last one of July and first two of August. Tempo tend to remain high until late September than drop off quickly into the 70s and 60s as it moves into late Septemberand october. Mild winters usually doesnt drop much below 30s. Humidity in spring usually is fairly high, would have to look up an exact number, and only increases towards summer (90% is not an uncommon number and pop up thunder showers are common). Fall and Winter are much drier on average. Spring (especially may) tends to be the rainy season with the most consistent medium heavy rains. Summer will have deluges and then go dry for weeks at a time and is pretty much un predictable. Combined with the high temps, plants can dry out quickly. Fall especially October is the driest time of year. Last I checked my area averages about 42" of annual rainfall.


Do root vegetables do well? Those and herbs are my downfall.


You mean like radishes, potatoe, etc? I've never tried growing them myself nor do I know anyone who has tried. Herbs tend to do well. Or at least basil and oregano. Rosemary does decently as well.


Yes, potatoes, parsnip, etc ..
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Tue May 03, 2016 7:59 pm

Well I can say that potatoes and onions do really well in South Georgia. The humidity is much higher there though the temps aren't that much more. Though the higher winter temps may help the tuber survive
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby Symmetry on Fri May 06, 2016 11:56 pm

strike wolf wrote:Well I can say that potatoes and onions do really well in South Georgia. The humidity is much higher there though the temps aren't that much more. Though the higher winter temps may help the tuber survive


If your (maybe) eggplant turns out well, I'd suggest putting down some courgette next season too. I think that's zuchinni (sp?) In the US. Eggplant is aubergine in the UK, at least.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby strike wolf on Sat May 07, 2016 3:47 pm

Squash both crook neck and zucchinI squash do pretty well here. Only problem I've run into is that they are horrible about getting these maggots in them (horn maggots or somethjng) they crawl up the stem and eat out the fruit from the inside. Even moving them the beetles have a tendency to find them again.

The eggplant is doing well. I've moved it into a 5 gallon pot for the time being.

The peppers aND tomatoes are doing well too but the beans aren't growing as quick as they have in the past. No signs of disease just not taking off. Have put up some forked sticks to help them from collapsing away from their support and aiding them in growing up it.
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Re: Question for garden lovers

Postby tzor on Tue May 10, 2016 3:04 pm

RiskTycoon wrote:Why waste time and energy cultivating a plant you don't know where it came from. Some plants grow better from true "seed" stock... Like potatoes...


That's either a joke that NO ONE around here is going to get ...
Or it's a real face palm moment.
We should put it to a vote and see whether or not the "eyes" have it.
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