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armati wrote:the f 35 was a turkey long before the s 400.
f 35s are target practice for the Russian Sukhois and Migs
s 400s can take down Strategic bombers such as the B-1, B-2,[93] FB-111 and B-52H
Electronic warfare airplanes such as the EF-111A and EA-6
Reconnaissance airplanes such as the TR-1
Early-warning radar airplanes such as the E-3A and E-2C
Fighter airplanes such as the F-15, F-16, F-35[94] and F-22
Strategic cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk
Ballistic missiles (range up to 3,500 km)[63]
What I think would be funny is if Putin put s 400s in and around N Korea.
armati wrote:Bernie, the reason so many nations are lining up to buy s 400s is because they work.
Actually, there is a line up to buy alot of Russian equipment, it has all proven itself in Syria.
For comparision, check out the USS Zumwalt(only 3 to 4.5 billion or so)
Zumwalt-class destroyer, or f 35.( might as well plan the funeral for the pilots when they leave for combat, they dead)
There have been too many $60,000 toilet seats in the american military for too long.
The americans better have some secret alien tech if their going to get into it with the Russians.
armati wrote:THE CLASSIC $640 TOILET SEAT
Despite the tens of billions being wasted on a project like the F-35, the examples that tend to draw the most attention from the media and the most outrage among taxpayers involve overspending on routine items. This may be because the average person doesn’t have a sense of what a fighter plane should cost, but can more easily grasp that spending $640 for a toilet seat or $7,600 for a coffee pot is outrageous. These kinds of examples—first exposed through work done in the 1980s by Dina Rasor of the Project on Military Procurement—undermined the position taken by President Ronald Reagan’s administration that not a penny could be cut from its then-record peacetime Pentagon budgets.
You got me on that one Bernie, 60k was an exaggeration.
course when ya buy 1000 of them.....alota poopen in the military ya know.
Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.
waauw wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.
Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.
Dukasaur wrote:waauw wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.
Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.
You have very few plausible places to build hydroelectric plants, a climate hostile to solar, a political climate hostile to nuclear, and coal is on the way out. I think ultimately you will be making electricity from oil and gas.
Dukasaur wrote:waauw wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:Russia is in decline. Population is declining and a economy on par with Italy. Let's not even discuss the corruption, graft and alcoholism that pervades every corner of that shithole called Russia.
Don't forget their overdependance on oil and gas. Europe and Asia are slowly turning towards electric cars, a future that could turn the Russian economy into a train wreck.
You have very few plausible places to build hydroelectric plants, a climate hostile to solar, a political climate hostile to nuclear, and coal is on the way out. I think ultimately you will be making electricity from oil and gas.
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