2017 slave auctions in Lybia.

[2dimes]

There is a rumour, apparently being reported by CNN, that there are slave auctions in Lybia.

https://stepfeed.com/people-are-being-s ... ot-ok-5142

[waauw]

They're said to be raped, murdered and placed in concentration camps as well. Sadly, one of the biggest failures of the EU currently, since we're the ones paying for it.

[mrswdk]

There was a big fuss here a couple of weeks ago about official estimates that there are tens of thousands of people working as slaves in the UK. Google says there are hundreds of thousands in the US, and the proportion is probably the same in France, Germany, China, Japan, everywhere else.

Just type in 'modern slavery [country name]'.

[2dimes]

I realise there are bad people doing nasty things to oppress others in most places.

I consider this somewhat different from the modern wage slave which can be very similar. There is a slight difference between hiring a person, even if in practice you are barely paying them or not paying them at all, and this.

The video claims there is an actual sale of the workers. That would suggest the only way out for these slaves would be either re-sale or someone granting them freedom.

I have heard several stories from people who worked for a while and never got their pay. They were almost always telling me about past jobs while we were working somewhere for an employer that was paying us.

Then again I am also farmiliar with things such as, hiring someone from another country, taking their passport, then telling them they have to work or you will send them to jail. The main source of that story for me, was an article about people in Dubai that either escaped it or were still involved. In that article they claimed without a passport they were indeed unable to leave Dubai, sometimes being jailed then some were even returned to the "employer."

In the USA and Canada you can leave without ID, the problem will be entering another country without a passport. Also how do you leave without bus fare at the very least. I suppose that's not much different but it is still a difference. Once anyone of authority here found out your situation, you will be better off here. Jail in Canada might even be an improvement and you would not be going there, unless you were being arrested for something beyond trying to leave with no passport.

I'm sure it happens in most countries to some degree. In some cases here, it is possible they are afraid and either don't know they could call the police, or just think their situation is better and they don't want to go back to the country they came from. Sometimes even though they are not being paid properly they are getting some pay.

I doubt the slaves being bought at the auction are getting paid at all. Some probably are not being fed properly.

I suppose you're right. I have no idea what's going on inside houses anywhere. So much for just posting this and watching for other opinions.

[mrswdk]

I realise there are bad people doing nasty things to oppress others in most places.

I consider this somewhat different from the modern wage slave which can be very similar. There is a slight difference between hiring a person, even if in practice you are barely paying them or not paying them at all, and this.

I'm talking about actual slaves, not 'wage slaves'.

In the USA and Canada you can leave without ID, the problem will be entering another country without a passport. Also how do you leave without bus fare at the very least. I suppose that's not much different but it is still a difference. Once anyone of authority here found out your situation, you will be better off here. Jail in Canada might even be an improvement and you would not be going there, unless you were being arrested for something beyond trying to leave with no passport.

Apart from the fact I'm pretty sure that, unless you sneak out, you can't leave the country without ID:

- Foreign slaves will almost certainly be in the country illegally so they wouldn't be put in jail, they'd be deported
- In many cases the gang that abducted them is probably threatening their families back home, not just them personally
- A lot of them probably get abused so much they're too scared to try running away at all

You do hear about slaves running away and seeking help so it does happen, but the impression I get is that the majority are unlikely to.

I used to live next door to a hooker. After leaving the area I saw a story in the news saying she'd been deported and some guy arrested for trafficking her into the country.

[2dimes]

Like I hinted, I don't know what's going on behind a closed door. There was a story about a nail salon being involved in human trafficking here too.

I thought the sale of people in Africa was only in the past though.

Maybe this sort of thing will never end.

[mrswdk]

Maybe it's like prostitution and drugs, and the problem is the criminalization of it.

[riskllama]

take the day off, and watch Archer. you'll feel better, 2dimes...

[mrswdk]

take the day off, and watch Archer. you'll feel better, 2dimes...

Exactly. 1 person being sad (because they're a slave) is better than 2 people being sad (1 because they're a slave, 1 because they're sad seeing a slave). Utilitarianism dictates that, for the greater good of society, unpleasant things should just be ignored.

[Bernie Sanders]

China has an excellent record in slave labor. I believe that they are rated number 1 in the world.

Congrats China!

[DoomYoshi]

Slave trade is fairly common in Africa. That was one of my main points when arguing against owenshooter. He describes slavery as if it is a white crime against blacks. However, reality shows that it is a universal crime against humanity.

[betiko]

There was a big fuss here a couple of weeks ago about official estimates that there are tens of thousands of people working as slaves in the UK. Google says there are hundreds of thousands in the US, and the proportion is probably the same in France, Germany, China, Japan, everywhere else.

Just type in 'modern slavery [country name]'.

Probably not in france. But i m sure it s the case in the us, uk and china.
We all know that brits had to hire slaves to compensate the brexit.

[mrswdk]

12,000 slaves in France.

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/

Probably brought in to do the work that French people get paid for refusing to do.

[betiko]

12,000 slaves in France.

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/

Probably brought in to do the work that French people get paid for refusing to do.

Yeah... and how does that figure work? Some dude just sits in front of a sheet of paper and brainstorms a figure with some friends based on beliefs?
Not saying just for france.... but since we re talking about people that are hidden and no one know of their existence... even throwing an estimate figure seems kind of a stretch

[saxitoxin]

I used to live next door to a hooker.

I was once driving and a hooker waved me over. I didn't know she was a hooker until I pulled over, though, I thought she was a woman in distress. When I rolled my window down I said something like "what's wrong?" and she was like "I wanna party!" Then she tried to open the door and then she tried to reach in to unlock the door and, when she couldn't find the lock, she started trying to climb in through the window. But I have automatic windows so I rolled it up on her which caught her halfway in/halfway out and she yelled "let me go!" so I rolled it down just a bit so she could fight her way out of the door. Then I drove off.

I was freaked out because I thought it might have been a police sting operation because this woman was ugly as f*ck and I couldn't imagine she could make a living at prostitution.

[betiko]

I used to live next door to a hooker.

I was once driving and a hooker waved me over. I didn't know she was a hooker until I pulled over, though, I thought she was a woman in distress. When I rolled my window down I said something like "what's wrong?" and she was like "I wanna party!" Then she tried to open the door and then she tried to reach in to unlock the door and, when she couldn't find the lock, she started trying to climb in through the window. But I have automatic windows so I rolled it up on her which caught her halfway in/halfway out and she yelled "let me go!" so I rolled it down just a bit so she could fight her way out of the door. Then I drove off.

I was freaked out because I thought it might have been a police sting operation because this woman was ugly as f*ck and I couldn't imagine she could make a living at prostitution.

Dude... that was serbia's mom just trying to find a way to party.

[Bernie Sanders]

I used to live next door to a hooker.

I was once driving and a hooker waved me over. I didn't know she was a hooker until I pulled over, though, I thought she was a woman in distress. When I rolled my window down I said something like "what's wrong?" and she was like "I wanna party!" Then she tried to open the door and then she tried to reach in to unlock the door and, when she couldn't find the lock, she started trying to climb in through the window. But I have automatic windows so I rolled it up on her which caught her halfway in/halfway out and she yelled "let me go!" so I rolled it down just a bit so she could fight her way out of the door. Then I drove off.

I was freaked out because I thought it might have been a police sting operation because this woman was ugly as f*ck and I couldn't imagine she could make a living at prostitution.

I hear that it's a common occurrence throughout Russia. All the hot looking hookers emigrate to Western Europe.

Saxi, ask The Kremlin for more rubles so you can afford a hot looking hooker, before the last ones leave Russia.

[2dimes]

Long long ago, I had two somewhat similar things to Saxi's story happen without power windows.

One was a young lady not particularly ugly or attractive, she asked for a ride "only a couple of blocks." seeming very desperate. Being kind and galacticly naive I said ok, she gets in the car and then starts weaving a tale about needing some money for rent. If she didn't get the money she would be kicked out and didn't know what to do. Would I maybe be able to help her out, maybe give her some money in exchange for a blow job? Now I know what's up and I'm shocked because of the naive thing skidding to a partial halt. I explain, I was parking there to go to work and did not have time. I also only had less than twenty bucks on me but I did not mind giving her the money I had to put toward her rent. I guess no one had ever been kind before because she was baffled that anyone could possibly part with more than a dollar or two for no reason other than wanting to help someone in need. As she left she kept saying, "This is so weird, I don't get it."

The second was an older lady not very pleasant looking. Waved for me to stop as I was leaving our equivalent to a fair ground. I stopped, being a street with little traffic I did not even bother to pull over. She ran to the window and spoke in a tone she hoped would be farmiliar. "Hey, how's it going? Remember me? It's Lucy! I'm real hung over, could you take me to the liquor store? We could party, I'll give you a blowjob." No thanks. "Oh please? I'm really hung over I need a drink.." No, I have to go. I drove away.

[waauw]

I hear that it's a common occurrence throughout Russia. All the hot looking hookers emigrate to Western Europe.

Saxi, ask The Kremlin for more rubles so you can afford a hot looking hooker, before the last ones leave Russia.

It's lamentable that this is actually true. Most sex slaves in western europe are from countries like Russia.
Hence the 12,000 slaves in France. Some of them might be Goranz's family.

[Bernie Sanders]

I hear that it's a common occurrence throughout Russia. All the hot looking hookers emigrate to Western Europe.

Saxi, ask The Kremlin for more rubles so you can afford a hot looking hooker, before the last ones leave Russia.

It's lamentable that this is actually true. Most sex slaves in western europe are from countries like Russia.
Hence the 12,000 slaves in France. Some of them might be Goranz's family.

I can understand GoranZ hatred for Western Europe and the US. All the hot looking women leaving his poor wretched country for better opportunities that GoranZ and his fellow poor and barbaric countrymen can not provide for.

[mrswdk]

12,000 slaves in France.

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/

Probably brought in to do the work that French people get paid for refusing to do.

Yeah... and how does that figure work? Some dude just sits in front of a sheet of paper and brainstorms a figure with some friends based on beliefs?

The answer to that question is literally at the top of the page I linked you too.

That link doesn’t say France is any different to other European countries, I don’t know why you’re getting so butthurt about it.

[mrswdk]

I used to live next door to a hooker.

I was once driving and a hooker waved me over. I didn't know she was a hooker until I pulled over, though, I thought she was a woman in distress. When I rolled my window down I said something like "what's wrong?" and she was like "I wanna party!" Then she tried to open the door and then she tried to reach in to unlock the door and, when she couldn't find the lock, she started trying to climb in through the window. But I have automatic windows so I rolled it up on her which caught her halfway in/halfway out and she yelled "let me go!" so I rolled it down just a bit so she could fight her way out of the door. Then I drove off.

I was freaked out because I thought it might have been a police sting operation because this woman was ugly as f*ck and I couldn't imagine she could make a living at prostitution.

Woman tells saxi she wants to go party, he responds by shutting her in his car door.

If someone tried to kiss him after a date he’d probably push her down the stairs.

[saxitoxin]

I used to live next door to a hooker.

I was once driving and a hooker waved me over. I didn't know she was a hooker until I pulled over, though, I thought she was a woman in distress. When I rolled my window down I said something like "what's wrong?" and she was like "I wanna party!" Then she tried to open the door and then she tried to reach in to unlock the door and, when she couldn't find the lock, she started trying to climb in through the window. But I have automatic windows so I rolled it up on her which caught her halfway in/halfway out and she yelled "let me go!" so I rolled it down just a bit so she could fight her way out of the door. Then I drove off.

I was freaked out because I thought it might have been a police sting operation because this woman was ugly as f*ck and I couldn't imagine she could make a living at prostitution.

Woman tells saxi she wants to go party, he responds by shutting her in his car door.

If someone tried to kiss him after a date he’d probably push her down the stairs.

Kissing is gross and pointless.

Don't shove women, though, usually just spasm my shoulders to shrug them off me and make an uninviting noise like "ewwuuggh."

[saxitoxin]

Long long ago, I had two somewhat similar things to Saxi's story happen without power windows.

One was a young lady not particularly ugly or attractive, she asked for a ride "only a couple of blocks." seeming very desperate. Being kind and galacticly naive I said ok, she gets in the car and then starts weaving a tale about needing some money for rent. If she didn't get the money she would be kicked out and didn't know what to do. Would I maybe be able to help her out, maybe give her some money in exchange for a blow job? Now I know what's up and I'm shocked because of the naive thing skidding to a partial halt. I explain, I was parking there to go to work and did not have time. I also only had less than twenty bucks on me but I did not mind giving her the money I had to put toward her rent. I guess no one had ever been kind before because she was baffled that anyone could possibly part with more than a dollar or two for no reason other than wanting to help someone in need. As she left she kept saying, "This is so weird, I don't get it."

The second was an older lady not very pleasant looking. Waved for me to stop as I was leaving our equivalent to a fair ground. I stopped, being a street with little traffic I did not even bother to pull over. She ran to the window and spoke in a tone she hoped would be farmiliar. "Hey, how's it going? Remember me? It's Lucy! I'm real hung over, could you take me to the liquor store? We could party, I'll give you a blowjob." No thanks. "Oh please? I'm really hung over I need a drink.." No, I have to go. I drove away.

I had a similar thing happen on a country road at night in the Osoyoos except it was a drunk Indian (First Nations) who wanted a ride to the next town
Was literally in f*ck nowhere, no idea where he came from but he also tried to crawl into my window and I was able to roll it up in time. He retreated, though, and didn't get stuck in it like the hooker. I yelled "this isn't a taxi, buster!" and sped off. I thought about calling the RCMP but figured they probably get a lot of reports from out of towners about drunk Indians so decided not to.

[Dukasaur]

When I was driving cab this was a constant nuisance. All the time hookers jumping in and trying to solicit me. Trouble is, as a cab driver you slow down for everyone who looks like they might want to jump in, so speeding off and ignoring them is not an option. So every single one has to be given the talk. "Look babe, I'd love to, but I'm trying to make some money here so sorry but get the f*ck out."