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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby warmonger1981 on Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:38 pm

riskllama wrote:mocking others isn't about making yourself feel better, Bb...it's about making others feel worse.



Being a bully shows insecurity. Usually a bully feels shity about themselves. In order to make themselves feel better they will pick on people. Usually the elderly or the weak.. Or people that will not retaliate.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:39 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
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mookiemcgee wrote:I was trying to point out that your whole argument falls apart as soon as you try and add any specificty... You assert, The Christians are right... well which Christians? The Jonestown Christians that killed themselves? The Catholics that diddle little boys and girls? The Mormons? The Moonies? They can't all be right, and if you are simply asserting that everyone know 'Jesus was the messiah' then say that. But saying the chrisitans are right and everyone knows it is just a very very stupid argument.


It was a naked assertion, not an argument really. And a lighthearted one at that.

Thankfully, atheists don't have the problem of having to defend anything. Just mock people who actually DO believe something. Right? Good times.


Atheists tend to have better things to do than sit around and mock others. All the fun stuff, for example. I am rather jealous.
In my experience, it's the faithful who look down their noses at other faithful folks.


Faithful folks can at least discuss what they believe.

I guess if I were an atheist, I probably mock people just to make myself feel better.



So... you assume atheists mock Christians cos they, what, feel bad about being atheists? You make less sense as this thread progresses.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Bigbullets on Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:59 pm

riskllama wrote:mocking others isn't about making yourself feel better, Bb...it's about making others feel worse.


Making other's feel worse MAKES you feel be better.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Bigbullets on Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:03 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
Bigbullets wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Bigbullets wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:I was trying to point out that your whole argument falls apart as soon as you try and add any specificty... You assert, The Christians are right... well which Christians? The Jonestown Christians that killed themselves? The Catholics that diddle little boys and girls? The Mormons? The Moonies? They can't all be right, and if you are simply asserting that everyone know 'Jesus was the messiah' then say that. But saying the chrisitans are right and everyone knows it is just a very very stupid argument.


It was a naked assertion, not an argument really. And a lighthearted one at that.

Thankfully, atheists don't have the problem of having to defend anything. Just mock people who actually DO believe something. Right? Good times.


Atheists tend to have better things to do than sit around and mock others. All the fun stuff, for example. I am rather jealous.
In my experience, it's the faithful who look down their noses at other faithful folks.


Faithful folks can at least discuss what they believe.

I guess if I were an atheist, I probably mock people just to make myself feel better.



So... you assume atheists mock Christians cos they, what, feel bad about being atheists? You make less sense as this thread progresses.



They mock people because that's all they have. Kind of sad really.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:31 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
riskllama wrote:mocking others isn't about making yourself feel better, Bb...it's about making others feel worse.


Making other's feel worse MAKES you feel be better.


Ah yes, the "I'm saved but you'll burn in Hell" approach.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
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Bigbullets wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:I was trying to point out that your whole argument falls apart as soon as you try and add any specificty... You assert, The Christians are right... well which Christians? The Jonestown Christians that killed themselves? The Catholics that diddle little boys and girls? The Mormons? The Moonies? They can't all be right, and if you are simply asserting that everyone know 'Jesus was the messiah' then say that. But saying the chrisitans are right and everyone knows it is just a very very stupid argument.


It was a naked assertion, not an argument really. And a lighthearted one at that.

Thankfully, atheists don't have the problem of having to defend anything. Just mock people who actually DO believe something. Right? Good times.


Atheists tend to have better things to do than sit around and mock others. All the fun stuff, for example. I am rather jealous.
In my experience, it's the faithful who look down their noses at other faithful folks.


Faithful folks can at least discuss what they believe.

I guess if I were an atheist, I probably mock people just to make myself feel better.


I sometimes mock Christians. But most of the time I actually feel genuine compassion. Unfortunately, the people who sell religions are masters of misleading the gullible. They've spent a lifetime perfecting their craft, and most of the victims are recruited while they are young and impressionable and haven't learned self-defense against chicanery.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Symmetry on Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:22 am

Atheism is often considered an anti-religion. It rarely is, even though it can be. It's probably wise to talk to people first, before you dismiss them.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:33 am

Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Symmetry on Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:41 am

warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


Honestly, I've never felt the need to explain it. It's just not part of my life. Where I go after I die will be the same place I existed before I lived. I do know that I'll have offended a lot of people's ideas of gods though.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:22 am

Love too epxlain "conscious matter."
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:50 pm

Neoteny wrote:Love too epxlain "conscious matter."


Your meat suit's processor.

Or maybe there's some xenon atom out there pondering Aristotle's Categories.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Bigbullets on Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:35 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


That's the beauty of atheism. They don't have to explain anything. Ever.

That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:56 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


That's the beauty of atheism. They don't have to explain anything. Ever.

That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.


Bigbullets wrote:That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.


Bigbullets wrote:That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything.


Bigbullets wrote:They don't have to defend or explain anything.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:05 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


That's the beauty of atheism. They don't have to explain anything. Ever.

That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.



Sounds a tad like you're mocking atheists...
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:11 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
Bigbullets wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


That's the beauty of atheism. They don't have to explain anything. Ever.

That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.



Sounds a tad like you're mocking atheists...


More than a tad.

Maybe BB can provide a valid argument to convince atheists to believe.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:35 pm

Bigbullets wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:Unless atheists can explain how matter can become conscious it's nothing more than faith. The same thing religion is. Faith in something without absolute proof.. we all know this conversation is a rabbit hole.


That's the beauty of atheism. They don't have to explain anything. Ever.

That's why Atheism truly is for the weak. They don't have to defend or explain anything. They simply mock those who do believe something. They have yet to realize that mocking people or beliefs isn't a valid argument for anything.


Implying Christianity was ever a valid argument for anything itself? Har
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:07 pm

BB, why did you start this thread? Were you looking for information or were you looking for a fight? If you were looking for a fight, you will find one. I can't imagine why a Christian would go out looking for a fight though. I understand the tribalistic impulse, but perhaps you should spend some time in the proverbs and re-evaluate your motives.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:23 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:BB, why did you start this thread? Were you looking for information or were you looking for a fight? If you were looking for a fight, you will find one. I can't imagine why a Christian would go out looking for a fight though. I understand the tribalistic impulse, but perhaps you should spend some time in the proverbs and re-evaluate your motives.


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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:37 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:BB, why did you start this thread? Were you looking for information or were you looking for a fight? If you were looking for a fight, you will find one. I can't imagine why a Christian would go out looking for a fight though. I understand the tribalistic impulse, but perhaps you should spend some time in the proverbs and re-evaluate your motives.


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Is that photoshopped or did someone actually make that?
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby riskllama on Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:40 pm

looks real enough to me.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:08 pm

It's the Fremont troll in Seattle. I don't know what the pink hat is for.
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:09 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:It's the Fremont troll in Seattle. I don't know what the pink hat is for.


Wow, has his own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont_Troll
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby riskllama on Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:08 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:It's the Fremont troll in Seattle. I don't know what the pink hat is for.


one of them "pussyhats" i bet... ;)
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Re: Atheism. Is there more to it than just mocking people?

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:36 pm

This is for those who are really interested in the argument. One of the better debates I have seen in awhile. It's long but it's a good one.


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