Failing to Reconciled Nomad Because He’s Scared

[DoomYoshi]

According to this study, pet ownership is racially non-equal:
https://gobranded.com/branded-poll-mult ... ip-trends/

Therefore there is discrimination in the pet ownership field.

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Car ownership is my classic example of how I still experience racism. I can (and have) gone to a luxury car dealer and asked for a test drive. When black men go to an Aston Martin dealer and ask for a test drive, they are given the story about how you need to prove your credit first. That's before we even get to the ownership thing. The average Bugatti owner has 84 cars, 3 jets, 1 yacht and is likely to be either white or arabic. There are almost 10 black men who own Bugattis, so it's not like it's impossible. There are 449 Veyrons out there, so that is almost 2% that are owned by black men. Pretty good, but not equal.
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being able to walk down sidewalks is an irrelevant stat. You can't eat it, put it in a box or have sex with it, so sidewalk rights are not a real thing. Try again.

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I'm bored now, going on to the video. Where does it suggest that there is a genetic basis to the idea of race? Is there an allele that indicates what race somebody is?

[spurgistan]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/g ... flourishes

We're still suppressing the black vote in Georgia but hey, they might not get shot for owning a pit bull. They can even marry white people for the last 50 years! We are equal.

[NomadPatriot]

Doom thinks that because a study clearly says certain races are " more likely to own pets" that means the ability to own pets is not racially equal..

& Doom thinks that because a black man walks into a single luxury car dealership somewhere and the sales person asked for a credit check before being allowed to drive a car worth hundreds of thousands of dollars ( because Car dealers can use your drivers license to access your credit report. Car dealers commonly ask for and photocopy your driver’s license before they’ll let you take one of their cars out for a test drive, says Charles Cyrill, a spokesman for the National Automobile Dealers Association. and Doom has no references for any other races in this scenario) that means the ability to own a car is not racially equal.

I can see responding to Doom is getting extremely pointless.
have fun in life Doom.. you should get real far.

[NomadPatriot]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/georgia-election-fight-shows-that-black-voter-suppression-a-southern-tradition-still-flourishes

We're still suppressing the black vote in Georgia but hey, they might not get shot for owning a pit bull. They can even marry white people for the last 50 years! We are equal.

from your article:

"Kemp, who is running for governor against Democrat Stacey Abrams, says his actions comply with a 2017 state law that requires voter registration information to match exactly with data from the Department of Motor Vehicles or Social Security Administration.

Claiming they seek to deter election fraud, some 20 states have restricted early voting or passed laws requiring people to show government ID before voting.

Voter identification laws have hidden costs, research shows.

Getting a government ID means traveling to state agencies, acquiring birth certificates and taking time off work. That puts it out of reach for many, a kind of 21st-century poll tax."

white people doing those things is different then black people doing those things.. because. racism...…………….

[spurgistan]

Quick note on voter fraud -

It doesn't happen. People have been trying to catch voters voting illegally at the booth, and it happens like 100 times per cycle, and it's often old confused Republicans who think that it's easy because the TV says all the Democrats are voting illegally.

Sooo... why do we keep getting tougher voting ID laws? Look at that quote above, and check how it works if you have the established Republican goal of making minority populations matter less in voting (source from the dead guy's notes on the Census citizenship question arguing that it was important to depress minority population counts)

[HitRed]

I thought the Russians were voter fraud

[NomadPatriot]

Splooge Logic:
voter fraud -
It doesn't happen.
People have been trying to catch voters voting illegally at the booth,
it happens like 100 times per cycle

[NomadPatriot]

I thought the Russians were voter fraud

if Russians were floating boats over to the Alaskan border and entering America Illegally , then voting in elections.. .Democrats would not care..
right...?
they are Immigrants

[jimboston]

PLEASE DO NOT DERAIL MY THREAD WITH AGGRESSIVE WORDS AND UNFAIR DEBATE TACTICS1

I’m talking to all of you kids!

My post is on point according to the name of this thread. My opinion has not changed.

You are actually directly off-point.... but whatever.

I’m mainly annoyed with DoomYoshi attacked NP.
If he’s attacked he’s not going to feel comfortable to open up and we won’t be able to have a free discussion.

I am trying to change your opinion of NP. Read some of his OP through fruition and tell me my formula is inaccurate.

Your formula may be accurate, it it’s not proof he doesn’t believe his main stated views.

[jimboston]

It’s not fair or reasonable to claim that proponents of AA see the beneficiaries as inferior.

They don't, but they should. It's a logical conclusion that cannot be escaped (given the premises).

That's a general statement. Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are superior to them, at least in modern individualistic culture.

Trying to help someone does not imply you believe you are superior to them.

Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are in a position to help that person.
You may be in that position for a whole variety of reasons... one could be you feel your superior... others could be;
- You were blessed to be born to parents with money, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents with high education, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents that stayed married, they weren’t.
- You were blessed to be born into a majority group that is not discriminated against in the way that their minority group is being discriminated against.
- You were born into a family that lived in a school district that had a lot of money; they were born into a school district that was poor and riddled with drugs.

None of these things imply or suggest you are superior. They imply you are better-off, possibly in part due to the circumstances you were born into.

[NomadPatriot]

It’s not fair or reasonable to claim that proponents of AA see the beneficiaries as inferior.

They don't, but they should. It's a logical conclusion that cannot be escaped (given the premises).

That's a general statement. Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are superior to them, at least in modern individualistic culture.

Trying to help someone does not imply you believe you are superior to them.

Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are in a position to help that person.
You may be in that position for a whole variety of reasons... one could be you feel your superior... others could be;
- You were blessed to be born to parents with money, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents with high education, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents that stayed married, they weren’t.
- You were blessed to be born into a majority group that is not discriminated against in the way that their minority group is being discriminated against.
- You were born into a family that lived in a school district that had a lot of money; they were born into a school district that was poor and riddled with drugs.

None of these things imply or suggest you are superior. They imply you are better-off, possibly in part due to the circumstances you were born into.

jim.. can you name 1 single way in 2019 a minority group is being discriminated againist in a way their majority group is not...?
because I can reference numerous sources on how in 2019 a majority group is being discriminated against in favor of minority groups

[jimboston]

sorry Jim.. I am not spending 20 minutes reading that dissertation.

You are not ‘playing fair’. I am not attacking you I am discussing politely and even telling others to back off... but you still do not appear to want to engage me fairly.

You are getting hung up on the term Reverse Racism, and using this as a false flag by which to belittle the rest of my points. You then tell me you can’t be bothered to read my ‘dissertation’... yet you have time to read and reply to 10 other posts from people attacking you?

So you don’t truly want to engage intellectually... you prefer to just attack and be attacked?
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I have stated multiple times how I understand that technically “reverse racism” is just “racism”... yet to help us communicate it is a valid term and a well understood term. Let’s look at what comes up when I do a Google search in “reverse racism”. The first thing is a Wiki article...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

One interesting point in the article near the top of the article...

Belief in reverse racism is widespread in the United States; however, there is little to no empirical evidence that white Americans suffer systemic discrimination.[Note 1] Racial and ethnic minorities generally lack the power to damage the interests of whites, who remain the dominant group in the U.S.[8] Claims of reverse racism tend to ignore such disparities in the exercise of power and authority, which scholars argue constitute an essential component of racism.[1][2][5]

Now, you are entitled to dispute the factual accuracy of the Wiki article. That’s fine. However, when you try to change commonly understood terms, and you spend all your efforts disputing the very existence of the term itself... that’s tin-hat-level shit.

MOST INTERESTING. Was that fact that you ignored the final question from my earlier post... and probably the most important question. So I will ask it again.

That all said, your actions pointing this out again and again suggests something that I want to understand about you and your world view. I won’t deny your view as invalid, as your view is your view and it’s based on your life experiences... and I can’t deny your life experiences. That said, it seems to me that you feel racism against white people... either by black people or by white people who may perpetuate it for their own purposes... is a bigger problem in this country than racism against black people.

Is that your view?

It’s fine if it is... but we can’t discuss the subject of ‘race problems’ if don’t understand each other’s views.

I acknowledge that racism can be perpetrated on/by anyone... but in general I feel black Americans get discriminated against more than white Americans.... but if your experience tells you something different it would be good to know.

This is either a yes or no question.

If you refuse to answer or refuse to give a straight answer then I will know you don’t want to truly engage.

[riskllama]

*raises hand*

[jimboston]

It’s not fair or reasonable to claim that proponents of AA see the beneficiaries as inferior.

They don't, but they should. It's a logical conclusion that cannot be escaped (given the premises).

That's a general statement. Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are superior to them, at least in modern individualistic culture.

Trying to help someone does not imply you believe you are superior to them.

Trying to help someone implies that you believe you are in a position to help that person.
You may be in that position for a whole variety of reasons... one could be you feel your superior... others could be;
- You were blessed to be born to parents with money, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents with high education, and they were not.
- You were blessed to be born to parents that stayed married, they weren’t.
- You were blessed to be born into a majority group that is not discriminated against in the way that their minority group is being discriminated against.
- You were born into a family that lived in a school district that had a lot of money; they were born into a school district that was poor and riddled with drugs.

None of these things imply or suggest you are superior. They imply you are better-off, possibly in part due to the circumstances you were born into.

jim.. can you name 1 single way in 2019 a minority group is being discriminated againist in a way their majority group is not...?
because I can reference numerous sources on how in 2019 a majority group is being discriminated against in favor of minority groups

You tried this before.

You ask me to provide an example and claim you can provide multiple examples to prove your point... but you don’t provide any.
You start. It’s your question. You go first.

BTW... this quote of mine is NOT primarily about discrimination, it’s about the idea that proponents of AA MUST BY DEFAULT view themselves as superior to the beneficiaries of AA. Oh and BTW the proponents and beneficiaries of AA are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups.

The example of discrimination is just one example out of five. So even if discrimination didn’t exist you still have four examples that DON’T INVOLVE DISCRIMINATION.

[jimboston]

*raises hand*

Yes?

[NomadPatriot]

I apologized because I didn't want to spend 20 minutes reading something and that , to you, means :
- "You are not ‘playing fair’
- "you still do not appear to want to engage me fairly."
- "using this as a false flag by which to belittle the rest of my points"
- "You then tell me you can’t be bothered"
- "you prefer to just attack "
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no clue what your 'final question' was... try not writing Chapters. .
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Racism is a problem no matter who does it, racism is racism.. the term is equally applied to all races no matter who does it- that is my view

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if you have any proof in 2019 blacks are discriminated againist more then whites.. reference it

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If I missed your question.. again quit writing Chapters.. just ask the question all by itself..
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I tried this before.You ask me to provide an example and claim you can provide multiple examples to prove your point... but you don’t provide any.You start. It’s your question. You go first.BTW... this quote of mine is NOT primarily about discrimination, it’s about the idea that proponents of AA MUST BY DEFAULT view themselves as superior to the beneficiaries of AA. Oh and BTW the proponents and beneficiaries of AA are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups. The example of discrimination is just one example out of five. So even if discrimination didn’t exist you still have four examples that DON’T INVOLVE DISCRIMINATION.

so no.. you cannot..
ok. .

you made a claim.. I asked you for proof.. you cannot back-up your claims..

the constant problem with debating you Jim.. you claim things, but then when asked to provide sources for your claims.. you cannot

[Symmetry]

I apologized because I didn't want to spend 20 minutes reading something and that , to you, means :
- "You are not ‘playing fair’
- "you still do not appear to want to engage me fairly."
- "using this as a false flag by which to belittle the rest of my points"
- "You then tell me you can’t be bothered"
- "you prefer to just attack "
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no clue what your 'final question' was... try not writing Chapters. .
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Racism is a problem no matter who does it, racism is racism.. the term is equally applied to all races no matter who does it- that is my view

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if you have any proof in 2019 blacks are discriminated againist more then whites.. reference it

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If I missed your question.. again quit writing Chapters.. just ask the question all by itself..
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I tried this before.You ask me to provide an example and claim you can provide multiple examples to prove your point... but you don’t provide any.You start. It’s your question. You go first.BTW... this quote of mine is NOT primarily about discrimination, it’s about the idea that proponents of AA MUST BY DEFAULT view themselves as superior to the beneficiaries of AA. Oh and BTW the proponents and beneficiaries of AA are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups. The example of discrimination is just one example out of five. So even if discrimination didn’t exist you still have four examples that DON’T INVOLVE DISCRIMINATION.

so no.. you cannot..
ok. .

you made a claim.. I asked you for proof.. you cannot back-up your claims..

the constant problem with debating you Jim.. you claim things, but then when asked to provide sources for your claims.. you cannot

Mate, you struggle to use capital letters in your sentences, and need to ask other posters to use search engines to get even basic answers.

Jim won this one.

[NomadPatriot]

I see Sym is trying to get attention.. he is going around on all the threads responding to my comments..

[Symmetry]

I see Sym is trying to get attention.. he is going around on all the threads responding to my comments..

I see NoPa is upset that I posted in a few threads.

[NomadPatriot]

a week late & his momma's truckstop lot money too short..

[Symmetry]

a week late & his momma's truckstop lot money too short..

Your momma's a week late, son. What can I say- she looked like a guy!

CC folk- beware of truck-stop families.

[DoomYoshi]

Doom thinks that because a study clearly says certain races are " more likely to own pets" that means the ability to own pets is not racially equal..

& Doom thinks that because a black man walks into a single luxury car dealership somewhere and the sales person asked for a credit check before being allowed to drive a car worth hundreds of thousands of dollars ( because Car dealers can use your drivers license to access your credit report. Car dealers commonly ask for and photocopy your driver’s license before they’ll let you take one of their cars out for a test drive, says Charles Cyrill, a spokesman for the National Automobile Dealers Association. and Doom has no references for any other races in this scenario) that means the ability to own a car is not racially equal.

I can see responding to Doom is getting extremely pointless.
have fun in life Doom.. you should get real far.

Do an experiment with your black friends at a local luxury car dealership. It won't work if you look like white trash though.

[NomadPatriot]

Doom thinks that because a study clearly says certain races are " more likely to own pets" that means the ability to own pets is not racially equal..

& Doom thinks that because a black man walks into a single luxury car dealership somewhere and the sales person asked for a credit check before being allowed to drive a car worth hundreds of thousands of dollars ( because Car dealers can use your drivers license to access your credit report. Car dealers commonly ask for and photocopy your driver’s license before they’ll let you take one of their cars out for a test drive, says Charles Cyrill, a spokesman for the National Automobile Dealers Association. and Doom has no references for any other races in this scenario) that means the ability to own a car is not racially equal.

I can see responding to Doom is getting extremely pointless.
have fun in life Doom.. you should get real far.

Do an experiment with your black friends at a local luxury car dealership. It won't work if you look like white trash though.

it's weird how you keep emphasizing 'Luxury' car dealerships..
why?
seems like you saying only white people can work at or own Luxury car dealerships...?

sounds racist Doom..
you do not even consider the idea Black people would be able to work at or own a Luxury Car Dealership..

[DoomYoshi]

Even black people are racist against blacks. It's kind of how like women always tear each other up in the workplace so that they work to keep each other down.

The thing about luxury car dealers is that they do have very discriminatory policies against poor people. For example the McLaren Senna starts at $837 000, a price that is out of reach for most poor people. Since poor people are disproportionately black, it's the same as having a discriminatory policy against black people.

The US government puts a special chemical in $100 Benjamins that makes black people allergic to them is the only possible explanation.

[NomadPatriot]

Even black people are racist against blacks. It's kind of how like women always tear each other up in the workplace so that they work to keep each other down.

The thing about luxury car dealers is that they do have very discriminatory policies against poor people. For example the McLaren Senna starts at $837 000, a price that is out of reach for most poor people. Since poor people are disproportionately black, it's the same as having a discriminatory policy against black people.

The US government puts a special chemical in $100 Benjamins that makes black people allergic to them is the only possible explanation.

(and members call me a Racist on here.)



so luxury car dealerships want to know if someone can actually afford the car they are wanting to test dive before they allow someone to test drive it. 100,000% reasonable situation.
but Doom thinks:
- black people can not own or work at a Luxury Car dealership
- poor people = black people.
- that more black people proportionally are poorer then any other race. ..
- that black people can be racist towards other black people..
--> that.. the US Government.. puts a special chemical.. on $100 bills .. that black people are. allergic too..

f-ing hell..
i'm out of this debacle... this sh*t just got f-ing retarded..