Have you had Covid-19?

[riskllama]

You seem unfamiliar with having to negotiate where to order pizza from with groups of other people.

In addition to that... We are quarantined and being one of the first places to advertise it, Pizza Hut seemed at the time like they would be able to conduct an easy seemless contactless delivery.

I presume Atlas was not an option so I did not even bring them up during discussions.

Wife's favorite place is run by some folks that really seem like they would not be able to handle contactless delivery.

Another place closer than Atlas that our son is in love with because they have butter chicken pizza, would not deliver to us.

I am sure it's worse for your health than other pizza which arguably are already not good but..

Pizza Hut was actually quite delicious this time. Most of the time it is pretty tasty, years ago there was a location that used to deliver to us that was so terrible I dreaded the children demanding we get the slop. At that time I would drive to a different location to pick up better Pizza Hut. Fortunately it closed.

The wife and offspring just went to get a Covid test at the drive in test place. This time we expect the tests to be positive.

if i was w/a group of people and we were discussing pizza delivery options & pizza hut was the front runner, i would either A) say fine, but i'm not going to pay for that shit B) relentlessly mock & deride the people who voted for pizza hut & not pay for that shit or C) leave and go eat something decent

life is too short too eat @ pizza hut, 2dimes...

[HitRed]

In Texas if you call to place your order at Pizza Hut it goes to a call center and three mediums is $47.00!

If you walk in and order $27.00

My favorite pizza place crushes real tomatoes.

[Dukasaur]

Do Pizza Hut restaurants still do those comics with the street animal characters, and the ice cream factory? It's been years since I've seen a Pizza Hut that wasn't just a take away window, so I'm not sure what the sit down places look like any more (if they still exist).

Don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world, but here in Niagara Falls the Pizza Hut not only still have a sit-down section, but it's actually one of the larger sit-down sections.

As pizza places go. Obviously it's still tiny compared to the steakhouses.

[jusplay4fun]

You seem unfamiliar with having to negotiate where to order pizza from with groups of other people.

In addition to that... We are quarantined and being one of the first places to advertise it, Pizza Hut seemed at the time like they would be able to conduct an easy seemless contactless delivery.

I presume Atlas was not an option so I did not even bring them up during discussions.

Wife's favorite place is run by some folks that really seem like they would not be able to handle contactless delivery.

Another place closer than Atlas that our son is in love with because they have butter chicken pizza, would not deliver to us.

I am sure it's worse for your health than other pizza which arguably are already not good but..

Pizza Hut was actually quite delicious this time. Most of the time it is pretty tasty, years ago there was a location that used to deliver to us that was so terrible I dreaded the children demanding we get the slop. At that time I would drive to a different location to pick up better Pizza Hut. Fortunately it closed.

The wife and offspring just went to get a Covid test at the drive in test place. This time we expect the tests to be positive.

if i was w/a group of people and we were discussing pizza delivery options & pizza hut was the front runner, i would either A) say fine, but i'm not going to pay for that shit B) relentlessly mock & deride the people who voted for pizza hut & not pay for that shit or C) leave and go eat something decent

life is too short too eat @ pizza hut, 2dimes...

Wow. a post by the joyless one over one line long. It is a record?

[2dimes]

I couldn't leave. Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from, besides one Pizza Hut location which was not bad enough to put me off the place, and Pizza 73.

I might complain, but if I was with a group that wanted Pizza 73, I would probably eat some.

It's ok if you want to mock me for having and maybe worse, enjoying some Pizza from Pizza Hut.

I don't recall seeing those comics ralf. Some Pizza Huts here are still sit down restaurants. Several of the sit down locations have closed and some other restaurant is using the building. I'm not sure when I went to eat in a sit down Pizza Hut location last. I think it might have been 2019?

wifes dad just tested positive! he isnt sick but had shoulder surgury scheduled so they auto-test.... got a test scheduled for tomorrow, wish me luck! (i want this omicron to boost my immunity)

I hope everything goes well there mook.

[jusplay4fun]

I couldn't leave. Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from, besides one Pizza Hut location which was not bad enough to put me off the place, and Pizza 73.

I might complain, but if I was with a group that wanted Pizza 73, I would probably eat some.

It's ok if you want to mock me for having and maybe worse, enjoying some Pizza from Pizza Hut.

I don't recall seeing those comics ralf. Some Pizza Huts here are still sit down restaurants. Several of the sit down locations have closed and some other restaurant is using the building. I'm not sure when I went to eat in a sit down Pizza Hut location last. I think it might have been 2019?

wifes dad just tested positive! he isnt sick but had shoulder surgury scheduled so they auto-test.... got a test scheduled for tomorrow, wish me luck! (i want this omicron to boost my immunity)

I hope everything goes well there mook.

A few issues here:

1) Somehow ANOTHER thread on COVID has morphed into a discussion about pizza and Pizza Hut.

Note the general tendencies of a group is NOT true of every member of the group. The Pizza Hut that 2dimes frequents JUST may be above average. I think he did mention another Pizza Hut establishment that was closer to his house that closed as he (and apparently many other customers) drove past that one to go to the GOOD ONE.

2) It seems that many are contracting omicron. It has been REPORTED from the onset of this variant (by the medical community in South Africa, where it was first detected) that it it less virulent AND more easily transmitted than delta and other variants. All the data I have seen and heard (as reported in the Media) as well as anecdotal evidence suggests that this true.

Further, omicron may grant herd immunity that we need to get past the major concern. I read Mookie's reference to this above and have not seen in the other 1,000.001 threads on the same topic.

3) I have read that the so-called "Spanish Flu" of 1918 simply went away in about two years. This scenario mentioned in 2) will hopefully happen with COVID in 6 months or less. I hope COVID "goes away." I suspect "goes away" for the so-called Spanish Flu actually means that many decide to get an annual flu vaccine now and that is how we deal with it. The maximum deaths for the annual flu was about 65K, if I recall those stats correctly. This is far short of the 800+K deaths attributed to COVID-19.

[HitRed]

I vote name change to Pizza

[mookiemcgee]

Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from.

Have you ever tried Little Caesars?

[jusplay4fun]

Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.

Almost 90 years later, in 2008, researchers announced they’d discovered what made the 1918 flu so deadly: A group of three genes enabled the virus to weaken a victim’s bronchial tubes and lungs and clear the way for bacterial pneumonia.

Since 1918, there have been several other influenza pandemics, although none as deadly. A flu pandemic from 1957 to 1958 killed around 2 million people worldwide, including some 70,000 people in the United States, and a pandemic from 1968 to 1969 killed approximately 1 million people, including some 34,000 Americans.

More than 12,000 Americans perished during the H1N1 (or “swine flu”) pandemic that occurred from 2009 to 2010. The novel coronavirus pandemic of 2020 is spreading around the world as countries race to find a cure for COVID-19 and citizens shelter in place in an attempt to avoid spreading the disease. .

Each of these modern day pandemics brings renewed interest in and attention to the Spanish Flu, or “forgotten pandemic,” so-named because its spread was overshadowed by the deadliness of WWI and covered up by news blackouts and poor record-keeping.

Aspirin Poisoning and the Flu
With no cure for the flu, many doctors prescribed medication that they felt would alleviate symptoms… including aspirin, which had been trademarked by Bayer in 1899—a patent that expired in 1917, meaning new companies were able to produce the drug during the Spanish Flu epidemic.

Before the spike in deaths attributed to the Spanish Flu in 1918, the U.S. Surgeon General, Navy and the Journal of the American Medical Association had all recommended the use of aspirin. Medical professionals advised patients to take up to 30 grams per day, a dose now known to be toxic. (For comparison’s sake, the medical consensus today is that doses above four grams are unsafe.) Symptoms of aspirin poisoning include hyperventilation and pulmonary edema, or the buildup of fluid in the lungs, and it’s now believed that many of the October deaths were actually caused or hastened by aspirin poisoning.

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

[jimboston]

Do it or loose your job doesn’t sound fascist.

That is correct, it is a health emergency and not the rise of military dictatorships. In a democracy you're just expected to mind public health in your job.

How long does this health emergency last?

Is it over yet? If not, what is the criteria that will help determine when this Crisis (Health Emergency) is over?

I am glad you asked, it is a contagion so it keeps getting worse until we ALL make a sustained effort.

No, the Spanish flu ended without “ALL making a sustained effort.”

There were mass quarantines during the Spanish Flu epidemic.

[jusplay4fun]

Do it or loose your job doesn’t sound fascist.

That is correct, it is a health emergency and not the rise of military dictatorships. In a democracy you're just expected to mind public health in your job.

How long does this health emergency last?

Is it over yet? If not, what is the criteria that will help determine when this Crisis (Health Emergency) is over?

I am glad you asked, it is a contagion so it keeps getting worse until we ALL make a sustained effort.

No, the Spanish flu ended without “ALL making a sustained effort.”

There were mass quarantines during the Spanish Flu epidemic.

As I recall, the efforts were done on a local and state level. I have not read of a national policy to fight the Spanish flu in the USA.

[Dukasaur]

A few issues here:

1) Somehow ANOTHER thread on COVID has morphed into a discussion about pizza and Pizza Hut.

I'm not a fan of pizza, but all things being equal, I'd rather have pizza than covid.

[saxitoxin]

Quadruple-vaxed Biden supporter shoots her dog because it got Omicron, which has a 100% survival rate among the vaccinated, and a 99.9% survival rate among the unvaccinated. I'm seriously starting to think the vax may be doing something to people's brains. The panic cult has been amping the crazy up to a 13.

[mookiemcgee]

As I recall, the efforts were done on a local and state level. I have not read of a national policy to fight the Spanish flu in the USA.

You were alive? Boomer...

[mookiemcgee]

B*tches be trippin

[saxitoxin]

Poor Hunter's living on borrowed time ...

[jusplay4fun]

As I recall, the efforts were done on a local and state level. I have not read of a national policy to fight the Spanish flu in the USA.

You were alive? Boomer...

Boomers were born starting in 1946, not 1918, or 1900.

[2dimes]

I got the text that my ten day isolation period is done today.

Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from.

Have you ever tried Little Caesars?

Yeah, I don't like it and if they bring it up I try to divert their attention to some other pizza.

I suspect that is llamas feeling about the hut.

Fortunately Little Caesars doesn't deliver and there are several other places to get food from near it so I get other food if they have to grab a hot and ready pizza pizza.

A few issues here:

1) Somehow ANOTHER thread on COVID has morphed into a discussion about pizza and Pizza Hut.

Note the general tendencies of a group is NOT true of every member of the group. The Pizza Hut that 2dimes frequents JUST may be above average. I think he did mention another Pizza Hut establishment that was closer to his house that closed as he (and apparently many other customers) drove past that one to go to the GOOD ONE.

Sorry. I have meantioned I am probably addicted to pizza. I have been doing fairly well at abstaining from it for several months.

Pizza Hut is fairly low on the list but it seemed like the easiest option to try contactless delivery.

I don't think the lousy location was closer, but for some reason the call center used to have them deliver to us. If it was closer it was not by much. So we stopped getting it delivered and instead I would drive to another location to pick it up.

The one that delivers to us now is ok.

The fairly large one in Forest Lawn was pretty good when they were still doing lunch buffets.

[mookiemcgee]

Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from.

Have you ever tried Little Caesars?

Yeah, I don't like it

I guess we are gonna just have to agree to agree.

I've seen homeless people turn down little caesars in favor of staying hungry.

[bigtoughralf]

Do Pizza Hut restaurants still do those comics with the street animal characters, and the ice cream factory? It's been years since I've seen a Pizza Hut that wasn't just a take away window, so I'm not sure what the sit down places look like any more (if they still exist).

Don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world, but here in Niagara Falls the Pizza Hut not only still have a sit-down section, but it's actually one of the larger sit-down sections.

As pizza places go. Obviously it's still tiny compared to the steakhouses.

Yeah the Pizza Hut restaurants here were always is new developments, which means they were relatively big compared to restaurants in old city centre buildings (although still nowhere near the barn-sized places you get in North America).

I asked a friend yesterday and they said Pizza Hut restaurants are still a thing here, although Pizza Pooch and the Hut Mutts are no more

[Dukasaur]

A few issues here:

1) Somehow ANOTHER thread on COVID has morphed into a discussion about pizza and Pizza Hut.

I'm not a fan of pizza, but all things being equal, I'd rather have pizza than covid.

Nobody laughed at my joke? How would you all like to ring in the New Year on the Guests list?

Don't get excited. Obviously a joke.

[2dimes]

I hope you're still joking Duke. I thought the first part was worth a smile but I laughed out loud at the follow up.

Hey ralf.. Worse than the demise of the Hut Mutts, is when someone at McDonalds changed the Hamburgler in an attempt to make him less frightening.

He is a frigging thief. We were not supposed to become friends with him. That sounds like the sort of thing that helped "defund the police" became a thing.

Fortunately I have not had really bad pizza from anywhere in years. I know I have had bad pizza, but don't really remember where it was from.

Have you ever tried Little Caesars?

Yeah, I don't like it

I guess we are gonna just have to agree to agree.

I've seen homeless people turn down little caesars in favor of staying hungry.

I automatically miss read that.

There have been other places, I think I have blocked from my memory due to the trauma of having tried their pizza, that were actually worse. An impressive feat.

I found the worst pizza is made at some one off rather than a franchise.

[2dimes]

Double post partially to seperate this from Pizza talk.

I am reluctant to write more about it, but at the same time I feel a need to attempt to support KoolBak.

I don't think any of us can fully relate to what he is going through.

There are a lot of people trying to down play Covid-19. Partially because it's been going on for so long and for many it's not fatal.

I don't even remember the year Toronto shut down for the first wave of SARS, I do remember people getting a shot hoping to slow it down. Even though it did not affect our city much and Ontario is quite far away, we did.

It is very fortunate that for me Covid-19 was mild, but it is a serious illness for some.

Just because I don't know anyone that has needed medical care for it does not mean I took it lightly even when I thought it was probably just a cold. I don't think it was an over reaction to scold me for thinking I did.

My wife and the offspring went for the swab and are getting the text messages with their positive results. So even though my isolation period is done, I'm not going out for a while to avoid carrying it on my clothes or something.

I like Saxitoxin, but some of his celibration posts about people that have died are a bit disgusting.

Wash your hands more, wear a mask and use some disinfectant people. Even if you test negative.

[jusplay4fun]

The stress of dealing with COVID: illnesses for some, shut downs, testing, wearing masks in some places, and closings of businesses and other establishments have gotten significant for many.

I was interesting in surface spreading of the COVID. Here is what the CDC reports:

The principal mode by which people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is through exposure to respiratory droplets carrying infectious virus. It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

Because of the many factors affecting the efficiency of environmental transmission, the relative risk of fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is considered low compared with direct contact, droplet transmission, or airborne transmission 1, 2. However, it is not clear what proportion of SARS-CoV-2 infections are acquired through surface transmission. There have been few reports of COVID-19 cases potentially attributed to fomite transmission 1, 2. Infections can often be attributed to multiple transmission pathways. Fomite transmission is difficult to prove definitively, in part because respiratory transmission from asymptomatic people cannot be ruled out 3, 4, 5. Case reports indicate that SARS-CoV-2 is transmitted between people by touching surfaces an ill person has recently coughed or sneezed on, and then directly touching the mouth, nose, or eyes 3, 4, 5. Hand hygiene is a barrier to fomite transmission and has been associated with lower risk of infection 6.

Quantitative microbial risk assessment (QMRA) studies have been conducted to understand and characterize the relative risk of SARS-CoV-2 fomite transmission and evaluate the need for and effectiveness of prevention measures to reduce risk. Findings of these studies suggest that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection via the fomite transmission route is low, and generally less than 1 in 10,000, which means that each contact with a contaminated surface has less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing an infection 7, 8, 9. Some studies estimated exposure risks primarily using outdoor environmental SARS-CoV-2 RNA quantification data. They noted that their QMRA estimates are subject to uncertainty that can be reduced with additional data to improve the accuracy and precision of information that is entered into the models. Concentrations of infectious SARS-CoV-2 on outdoor surfaces could be expected to be lower than indoor surfaces because of air dilution and movement, as well as harsher environmental conditions, such as sunlight. One QMRA study also evaluated the effectiveness of prevention measures that reduce the risk of fomite transmission and found that hand hygiene could substantially reduce the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission from contaminated surfaces, while surface disinfection once- or twice-per-day had little impact on reducing estimated risks 9.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html

[bigtoughralf]

Hey ralf.. Worse than the demise of the Hut Mutts, is when someone at McDonalds changed the Hamburgler in an attempt to make him less frightening.

lolwut. Any child who gets scared of the Hamburglar deserves everything they get.