Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[fusibaseball]

Vote Ragian.

If he flips Town and we still have the majority Day 6 to go after someone, it's 100% Andrei (IMO). I don't feel like spending hours and hours figuring stuff out like we did Day 4...that was too intensive. Keep it simple. We have 2 players claiming the same role, one is clearly hiding, so go after them.

[Maxleod]

11) Maxleod -> Mafia/Town, visitation role undisclosed. Cannot be aligned with Pixar.

I beg your pardon?
"Undisclosed"???
Josh riled me up about that and I answered all his questions. But when I asked him to do the same he bailed, deflected.

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=239406&start=1075#p5284712

(that's just the last post)

Now that Duka has claimed,

Vote Joshzam

[Darin44]

Ok, here's where I'm up to and a nice summary for all. Obviously everyone's list is a bit different but here's mine.

I also tend to buy Andrei's claim more since he said it quite a bit earlier and is corroborated by an accidental night kill that makes sense onto Law. This means Mafia targeted Jonah night 1. I think with this lead, we forego Pixar and absolutely need to lynch Andrei or Ragian Day 5.

1) fusibaseball -> Town Jack
2) Degaston -> Town Blademaster/Shankmaster
3) Dunk -> Town Electrician
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4) Andrei -> Town Veteran
5) Dukasaur -> Town Hunter
6) Darin -> Town visitation role, unknown
7) Pershy -> Town Hypnotist
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8 ) Pixar -> 3rd Party Ghost
9) Joshzam -> Role unknown, affiliation unknown, posts seem Town-ish but I still have no idea what this player actually does each Night. I'm pretty sure my save ability night 4 blocked the Mafia kill so I don't think he's scum.
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10) Ragian -> Mafia/3rd Party, role undisclosed
11) Maxleod -> Mafia/Town, visitation role undisclosed. Cannot be aligned with Pixar.

I kinda like this list Ragian has been on my scum list since he used the shank with no mafia kill
Joshzam been asking questions but gives no answers

I was concerned about Degaston N4 so I when to visit Degaston he does not leave his cell and has no visitors

[*Pixar*]

Vote Ragian

Somebody is lying here. Would not surprise me Ragian being scum, he is an expert at this game, looks like he slipped claiming a duplicate role though

[joshzam]

fusi has every right to ask me questions since he has shared his list of suspects. We've been asking over and over for everyone to do the same and very few have responded. That is scummy behavior. So Darin, Max, Duke, persh, Rage, andrei, Dunk... put up or shut up! (ignoring Pix)

The plan is to have those at the bottom of people's list claim first. I see and can understand why I would be low on fusi's list since I have not shared much of my privileged info. That is on purpose. If others share their lists and I'm at the bottom of a few, I'll full claim as agreed. With pleasure. A lot can be learned from these lists and pressuring in order is a standard strategy to make Mafia's life difficult. Claiming out of order (as pershy did) only helps scum.

[joshzam]

11) Maxleod -> Mafia/Town, visitation role undisclosed. Cannot be aligned with Pixar.

I beg your pardon?
"Undisclosed"???
Josh riled me up about that and I answered all his questions. But when I asked him to do the same he bailed, deflected.

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=239406&start=1075#p5284712

(that's just the last post)

Now that Duka has claimed,

Vote Joshzam

All my questions?? Hardly. The main request that appears in the very post you linked to above is asking you for your suspect list, and you still haven't provided it. Make a stand, dammit. Go on the record.

[joshzam]

Vote Ragian

Somebody is lying here. Would not surprise me Ragian being scum, he is an expert at this game, looks like he slipped claiming a duplicate role though

To be clear, Pix and fusi. You're voting Ragian to lynch his ass immediately, right? Because Ragian has already... <ahem> claimed. You don't want any additional information or claims from anyone else?? You want to lynch right now and go straight to night?

[Dunk90]

Vote Ragian.

If he flips Town and we still have the majority Day 6 to go after someone, it's 100% Andrei (IMO). I don't feel like spending hours and hours figuring stuff out like we did Day 4...that was too intensive. Keep it simple. We have 2 players claiming the same role, one is clearly hiding, so go after them.

I think Fusi's list is very credible. I still think Duk is scum but I am willing to throw a little caution to the wind and vote Ragian.

Scummy to chummy as of now:

1. Duk
2. Pixar
3. Ragian
4. Josh
5. Max
6. Andrei
7. Pershy
8. Darin
9. Degaston
10. Fusi
11. Dunk

[Dunk90]

Unvote Dukasaur Vote Ragian

[degaston]

maybe that's how traffic died - although mafia did get a kill in that night (N1)

I visited Ragian N1 to deliver a shank. Didn't die, but he says he was not alert that night.
traffic was mafia, so it makes more sense if he was killed by Loose Canon and TheJonah was killed by Mafia that night.

[Maxleod]

fusi has every right to ask me questions since he has shared his list of suspects. We've been asking over and over for everyone to do the same and very few have responded. That is scummy behavior. So Darin, Max, Duke, persh, Rage, andrei, Dunk... put up or shut up! (ignoring Pix)

The plan is to have those at the bottom of people's list claim first. I see and can understand why I would be low on fusi's list since I have not shared much of my privileged info. That is on purpose. If others share their lists and I'm at the bottom of a few, I'll full claim as agreed. With pleasure. A lot can be learned from these lists and pressuring in order is a standard strategy to make Mafia's life difficult. Claiming out of order (as pershy did) only helps scum.

You still won't answer. You questioned me I answered and when I asked the same from you you simply ignored it.

Scum:

1 - Josh (for the aforementioned reasons)
2 - Persh -- scold me because I copy/paste my night result then harass me because I don't reveal enough. nuff said (try to do better pershy)
3 - fusi -don't trust him, even if he killed another scum, I've come to think that may have been a gambit to buy him town credit for the late game.

Not Scum:

dega - given his power, if he's really the on handing out shanks, can't be scumm
Pixar - 3rd party (role, powers)

Undecided

Rags -let's see how it plays out.

[joshzam]

fusi has every right to ask me questions since he has shared his list of suspects. We've been asking over and over for everyone to do the same and very few have responded. That is scummy behavior. So Darin, Max, Duke, persh, Rage, andrei, Dunk... put up or shut up! (ignoring Pix)

The plan is to have those at the bottom of people's list claim first. I see and can understand why I would be low on fusi's list since I have not shared much of my privileged info. That is on purpose. If others share their lists and I'm at the bottom of a few, I'll full claim as agreed. With pleasure. A lot can be learned from these lists and pressuring in order is a standard strategy to make Mafia's life difficult. Claiming out of order (as pershy did) only helps scum.

You still won't answer. You questioned me I answered and when I asked the same from you you simply ignored it.

Scum:

1 - Josh (for the aforementioned reasons)
2 - Persh -- scold me because I copy/paste my night result then harass me because I don't reveal enough. nuff said (try to do better pershy)
3 - fusi -don't trust him, even if he killed another scum, I've come to think that may have been a gambit to buy him town credit for the late game.

Not Scum:

dega - given his power, if he's really the on handing out shanks, can't be scumm
Pixar - 3rd party (role, powers)

Undecided

Rags -let's see how it plays out.

You're a madman, Max.
fusi is as Town as anyone in this game. No Mafia kills their own at the start of a game to buy themselves Town credit. That doesn't happen!

Shall we assume you're also undecided on i-andrei, Dunk90, Darin44, and Dukasaur? You just left them out completely.

And I will answer any question you have, Max. Unless your question is, "Give me a full claim right now because I say so!"

[degaston]

Looks like we have two people accusing each other of lying, so it seems unlikely that the lynch will be anything other than one of those two.
Is there any reason not to believe i-andrei? He claimed to have killed Trafalgar on D4, and on D3 he said he had "something to share about night 1".
Ragian shared nothing about his role until day 5, and admitted that he missed i-andrei's claim.

[degaston]

@fusi - Did you receive anything from your investigation?

[fusibaseball]

@Dega: Nope, I still have the report and will probably be using it tonight on Max or maybe Duk tonight. There's really not many other suspicious players left. Definitely Andrei if Ragian flips scum (if this lynch goes through) just to make sure a Day 6 lynch doesn't screw the game for town.

If Ragian does flip Mafia and I die tonight, 100%, 100%, 100% go after Max tomorrow. He would have lynched me prior to my report. I'm not sure if they've ever put heat on each other but I don't think they have. I think we may be starting to hone in on the last 2 Mafia in them.

[fusibaseball]

Vote Ragian

Somebody is lying here. Would not surprise me Ragian being scum, he is an expert at this game, looks like he slipped claiming a duplicate role though

This exactly. Ragian has been very believable in his posts but I think he made a genuine slip-up that could have cost him the game. If he does flip Mafia...I just gotta say Rag, you're a scary good liar!

[fusibaseball]

****Definitely using my report on Andrei if Ragian flips TOWN from above post****

[i-andrei]

To be honest I'm dissapointed by the people playing Townies in this game: Bax did nothing to prove himself Town when we were lynching him and he could have helped us with some info. Jmac said nothing, and there are also more that shared nothing.

As to chosing between me and Ragian, i think it's obvious:
- i waited with the claim until D4 thinking i would stay alert again and catch a Mafia
- I told Town people at that point not to visit me at night so we don't decrease in numbers even more.
- I told people about the note in my cell and about receiving the taser, and i didn't use it.

Also, Ragian and Max cooked a nice story[quote="fusibaseball"].
That being said, i don't really care at this point if i get lynched or not, like i said, very dissapointed of this game, and i kind of lost interest in it.

Vote Ragian. there on N3 to fish out a protective role.

[i-andrei]

I messed up the message, typing from the phone, but it is what it is.

[Dunk90]

To be honest I'm dissapointed by the people playing Townies in this game: Bax did nothing to prove himself Town when we were lynching him and he could have helped us with some info. Jmac said nothing, and there are also more that shared nothing.

As to chosing between me and Ragian, i think it's obvious:
- i waited with the claim until D4 thinking i would stay alert again and catch a Mafia
- I told Town people at that point not to visit me at night so we don't decrease in numbers even more.
- I told people about the note in my cell and about receiving the taser, and i didn't use it.

Also, Ragian and Max cooked a nice story

.
That being said, i don't really care at this point if i get lynched or not, like i said, very dissapointed of this game, and i kind of lost interest in it.

Vote Ragian. there on N3 to fish out a protective role.

[Ragian]

Yes, I never saw i-andrei soft claiming veteran. If I had, I would have been more into it. The weird thing, however, is that I can't see him being scum based on gameplay, so if I'm lynched for having the same role as him, do NOT auto lynch i-andrei tomorrow! Scum will be straight out of the gates with that one.

Now, I read through very quickly, but some other skimmer/dirtbag accused me of lying. I have not lied about anything in this game. I'm guilty if trying to win this for town. First, I tried to establish scumminess based on voting patterns, and I fucked it up. Second, I shanked actorday and fucked it up. Yes, bad town moves, but I only regret not getting darin's vote tallied. So kill me off for bad play, but don't accuse me of lying. Or at least put forward some evidence instead of hearsay and vague references.

Now, as mentioned before, I strongly suspect Dukasaur. I also suspect Pixar (as mentioned), and I must say that pershy has started to take a big swing in the direction of scummy. I would add Max to this pile, but basically I just don't understand what the f*ck he's doing

Dukasaur: Has not been very present or helpful, and whenever he has dropped in, he has added little of value and not voted logically (if you ask me). The clincher, however, is his role. A hunter, according to mafia.gg, takes another person with him if lynched. That reeks of a mafia claim to deter a lynch. And I'll put my money where my mouth is. vote dukasaur

Pixar, I don't have to go into that again. I'm impressed that he has survived this long. I actually stayed alert last night as he was given the shank.

Pershy has taken a turn for the worse. I thought him town initially, but now I get the same feeling from him as I have earlier from Pixar. "Lynch anyone but me." He tied himself to Dukasaur earlier in the game, but when town turned on Duka, Pershy was very quick to turn, too. I think he's playing the popular vote in order to blend in.

I think josh, dega, and fusi are town.
I think darin, i-andrei, and dunk are most likely town.
I have no idea about Max. I don't think he has either.
Non town is found amongst dukasaur, Pershy, and pixar.

Even if I'm lynched, town can win this, but look at dukasaur, Pershy, and pixar before lynching i-andrei.

[Ragian]

@ I-Andrei, what "story" did I cook with Max?

[Razorvich]

DAY 5 VOTE COUNT #2

*Pixar* - Ragian
Dukasaur - Dunk90
Dunk90 - Dukasaur - Ragian
fusibaseball - Dukasaur - Ragian
joshzam - Dukasaur
Maxleod - Dukasaur (NEED TO UNVOTE TO CHANGE)
pershy - Dunk90 - Dukasaur - Ragian
Ragian - Dukasaur

[pershy]

fusi has every right to ask me questions since he has shared his list of suspects. We've been asking over and over for everyone to do the same and very few have responded. That is scummy behavior. So Darin, Max, Duke, persh, Rage, andrei, Dunk... put up or shut up! (ignoring Pix).

f** off - I have been actively sharing who I'm suspicious of.
And as I said you list is as reliable as a cheese cloth condom as far as where I am on it.

[pershy]

I am Otto Skorzeny. Life sentence for War Crimes.

I am a Hunter. If Lynched, I can take someone with me.

Yeay Dukasaur shared - thank you for that.

You're a hunter and can take someone...

He Duka - you're my new bestie - have a cigarette - hell have the whole pack.