Epstein Client List

[HitRed]

From what I read here, NONE of you understand what being a "christian" is.

PLUS, truly, it's a PERSONAL belief system that has no place being bantered about publicly....IMHO.

I do, however, enjoy a good fiction discussion, so please....keep it up.

Heard

He is sadly mistaken. - God

[Pack Rat]

Trump waves his magic pedo wand and Ghislaine Maxwell is sent to a luxurious minimum security prison.

[Dukasaur]

Trump waves his magic pedo wand

Is that a euphemism?

[jonesthecurl]

A youth-emism...

[kennyp72]

Your elite leaders have been fucking your children.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Prince Andrew the third (currently eligible) in line of succession to the throne?

Yes I do believe he may have been fucking your children too.

I would point out that we are unable to elect or deselect Andrew and also that we don't have the right to carry firearms.

[Dukasaur]

Don't have the right to arm bears?

[jusplay4fun]

Don't have the right to arm bears?

And, while visiting Scotland, I learned that:

In Scotland, you can add sheep lung to your haggis, but NOT buy Round-up (glyphosate, unless you are a licensed contractor). And only a few have hunting rifles; most rent them when using them.

In the USA, one cannot eat sheep lung in haggis, but nearly any adult can buy Round-Up or a firearm. hmmmm.....

btw: It is whisky in Scotland and whiskey in Ireland.

[Pack Rat]

Trump cover up!





NEWS FLASH! Moron claims biased fake news.

[jusplay4fun]

Corrected:

Trump cover up! [/b]

[i]NEWS FLASH! Moron named Pack Rat claims biased fake news.

[jusplay4fun]

Trump waves his magic pedo wand

Is that a euphemism?

Good ONES, Duk and Jonesy....!

[Pack Rat]

The victims speak out.





Release the Epstein Files!

[Pack Rat]

Trump just can't shake off his close relationship with Epstein.

[Pack Rat]

Epstein Files have magically disappeared.

[jusplay4fun]

pee rat does another Triple on his FAVORITE topic. SAD.

And why does the Epstein file(s) remain out of public scrutiny? Here is one reason why:

Politics
Judge declines to unseal grand jury material in Jeffrey Epstein case
By
Updated on: August 20, 2025 / 7:02 PM EDT / CBS News

Washington — A federal judge in New York on Wednesday declined the Justice Department's request to unseal grand jury material in the case of late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying prosecutors had failed to demonstrate that "special circumstances" warranted the disclosure.

Let me get this right: A judge blocks action by the Trump Administration? THAT can happen? Really?

Someone please tell pee rat.

[Dukasaur]

A federal judge in New York on Wednesday declined the Justice Department's request to unseal grand jury material in the case of late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying prosecutors had failed to demonstrate that "special circumstances" warranted the disclosure.

Let me get this right: A judge blocks action by the Trump Administration? THAT can happen? Really?

If you were following the story at all, you would have noticed two things:
1. Many legal scholars have commented on how half-hearted and lackadaisical the Justice Department's submission to Judge Berman was. It is in sharp contrast to the very determined and pugnacious posture the Justice Department has adopted in other cases.

2. The grand jury testimony is a red herring in any case. It is basically just an FBI officer's summary of the evidence up to that point. The real treasure trove is in evidence the FBI possesses that was never brought to the grand jury.

[jusplay4fun]

A federal judge in New York on Wednesday declined the Justice Department's request to unseal grand jury material in the case of late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying prosecutors had failed to demonstrate that "special circumstances" warranted the disclosure.

Let me get this right: A judge blocks action by the Trump Administration? THAT can happen? Really?

If you were following the story at all, you would have noticed two things:
1. Many legal scholars have commented on how half-hearted and lackadaisical the Justice Department's submission to Judge Berman was. It is in sharp contrast to the very determined and pugnacious posture the Justice Department has adopted in other cases.

2. The grand jury testimony is a red herring in any case. It is basically just an FBI officer's summary of the evidence up to that point. The real treasure trove is in evidence the FBI possesses that was never brought to the grand jury.

You are correct, Duk; I have NOT been

following the story

much, BECAUSE there is no there there.

I would think that the Grand Jury heard from victims and thus that is what is being protected, the identity and testimony of some who gave testimony under the condition of anonymity. So it is NOT

just an FBI officer's summary of the evidence up to that point.

And Yes, I know that there is LOTS more that the FBI has. I predicted to a few that the Grand Jury testimony would LIKELY NOT be released. As far as the

half-hearted and lackadaisical the Justice Department's submission

again, I have not followed this situation THAT carefully.

I predict we will NEVER know exactly the situation about Epstein's death: suicide or murder. It is too MURKY, from what I have read. It will be like who was the Real Jack the Ripper or the JFK assassination: there will be many who do not believe one version of the facts.

AND there are too many Democrats and other men in Power (Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, MORE) who do not want the facts released. There is NOTHING actually credible that shows me that Trump participated in underage sex, despite all the silly videos by pack rat. There are lots of innuendo and whispering, but no credible FACTS that I have seen, other than allegations of Clinton's name on the Flight logs to Epstein's Island. I had read about flight logs BEFORE Trump ran for President and, as far as I know, Trump's name was NOT released as having been on any such flights there.

Keep digging, folks. And please use facts and not silly worthless videos that prove NOTHING.

There is NO there there.

[Pack Rat]

The victims want the perpetrators who raped children to be known and convicted!






Who are the pedophile protectors who made a deal with sending a convicted pedophile from a high security prison in Florida to a luxurious minimum camp in Texas?

show

[jusplay4fun]

What do we know? That those who suffer from TDS, like Mookie and pack rat, will NEVER concede that there is NO THERE there. No matter what information is released, they and their kind will say, "BUT what about......" They will NEVER be satisfied until there is something released that is "proof" or something close to proof of Trump wrong doing(s). But as I have said from the start, there is NO THERE there.

I challenge those who make allegations of Trump's illegal activity in this matter to provide PROOF and go beyond mere rumor, innuendo, lies, and attempts to smear Trump. That is ALL THEY GOT.

Despite THAT, I will add information here that is reasonable reliable, unlike the innuendo and rumors and mere allegations released and posted by those with TDS.

The release includes documentation from a two-day interview conducted on 24 and 25 July. The materials comprise redacted transcripts for both days, along with multiple audio recordings – seven separate parts plus test recordings for day one, and four parts plus test recordings for day two.

The Department of Justice gave Maxwell limited immunity to allow her to talk about her criminal case, but did not promise anything in exchange for her testimony, according to the transcript that was released.

(...)
Maxwell, in the released transcript, said she never saw Trump do anything inappropriate and she repeatedly showered Trump with praise. That sort of comment would have been welcomed by Trump and his circle who have been keen to dismiss concerns about this relationship with Epstein which have roiled his support base.

“I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody,” Maxwell said.

and (...)
Maxwell said that she “never” saw Donald Trump receive a massage. She also said that she “never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way,” adding that, whenever she saw the president, he was “a gentleman in all respects”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/22/ghislaine-maxwell-interview-transcript-justice-department

and

Ghislaine Maxwell told DOJ she is unaware of any Epstein 'client list'

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ghislaine-maxwell-told-doj-she-is-unaware-any-epstein-client-list-2025-08-22/

Until real proof and anythng that come CLOSE to proof is provided by the likes of pack rat, I will now ignore this matter, as I should have from the very start. I will certainly continue to ignore pee rat and his numerous and incessant silly videos on this and NEARLY ALL other issues of note in this Forum.

btw: Among the reasons I do respond to pack rat (once in a while) is that
1) this in one of the few things that keeps people reading and responding in this Forum;
2) to point out his frequent lies; and
3) to demonstrate how ridiculous nearly ALL his posts are.

Re: Epstein Client List
Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jul 20, 2025 1:42 am

This controversy is using up too much oxygen. The Dems are hoping to find something to embarrass Trump, so the question is why wait UNTIL they are out of Office. If there were something there, it would have been released already while Biden and AG Merrick Garland had access to such information.

And release of the grand jury information:

1) likely will take a long time, months likely (see article cited below), and

2) focus on Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell; the focus is not on any "client list"

3) be opposed, especially by some of the victims of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell;

4) will not answer questions about Epstein's death;

5) will not satisfy those conspiracy theorists. They want proof of something that likely has no real proof.

[Dukasaur]

I challenge those who make allegations of Trump's illegal activity in this matter to provide PROOF and go beyond mere rumor, innuendo, lies, and attempts to smear Trump.

Mookie presented you several times with evidence, extracts from sworn affidavits and court testimony. You dismissed all of it without a thought.

If your allegience to your evil master prevents you from even considering testimony against him, why should people waste their time showing more?

I certainly wouldn't. For anyone with an open mind, the Billy Bush tape should have been enough evidence of who they're dealing with. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321

[KoolBak]

Evil master

Silly Hoser!

[jusplay4fun]

I challenge those who make allegations of Trump's illegal activity in this matter to provide PROOF and go beyond mere rumor, innuendo, lies, and attempts to smear Trump.

Mookie presented you several times with evidence, extracts from sworn affidavits and court testimony. You dismissed all of it without a thought.

If your allegience to your evil master prevents you from even considering testimony against him, why should people waste their time showing more?

I certainly wouldn't. For anyone with an open mind, the Billy Bush tape should have been enough evidence of who they're dealing with. https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321

Incorrect; I did not dismiss them. I responded to them (see below, and page 3 of this thread).

Duk, you TOTALLY misrepresented nearly one page of discussion on this ONE affadavit by one alleged victim. Then Mookie and others try to turn this into a discussion about my Christianity, a RED HERRING.

Re: Epstein Client List
Postby mookiemcgee on Mon Aug 04, 2025 6:05 pm (...)
9 years ago Katie Johnson (among other women) filed an affidavit with the courts that she was raped by Epstein and Trump while she was 13 years old. You didn't care then and you don't care now because to you it's all just political attacks because you can't accept there is proof of things you don't want to believe.

Here was my response THEN:

Re: Epstein Client List
Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:19 pm

I read it [the one affadavit, added for emphasis, 8/23/25]. Your post changes NOTHING, but shows you have little to nothing. And you did not answer ANY of my questions Mookie. ALL you offer is more and mere Allegations, NOT PROOF. And you LIE, I do care. BUT give me more PROOF, not an allegation that has been around SINCE 2016 AND NOTHING done, legally.

Duk, Mookie, pack rat and others will accept NOTHING released on the Epstein FILES because everything released so far shows no there there. That is because there is no there there.

[jusplay4fun]

Trump could rape a 13 year old live on Fox news tomorrow and you'd be asking for more proof. You can keep defending a child rapist and convicted adult rapist all you want... we just have different understanding of what the important parts of being a christian are.

First, Another LIE (or set of lies) by Mookie.

Second, Mookie continues his ONE and ONLY LINE. Now he tries to smear my Christianity as ANOTHER distraction. This is a weak and poor tactic, Mookie. You are resorting to the LCD; I thought you were above such poor tactics.

I am not defending Trump; I am asking that you produce more evidence. Smear campaigns, innuendo, and distractions are NOT PROOF. You seem to think that producing one indictment is PROOF. I disagree.

NOTE that this is NOT proven; ONE allegation by one victim on one indictment is NOT PROOF, especially when:

1) released in 2016 (Election year, that Mookie continues to ignore);

2) it has been IGNORED for over 9 years;

3) ignored by the Media;

4) ignored by the Dems;

5) ignored by the Legal system;

6) no further PROOF of this allegation;

7) No other "proof" that Trump rapes 13 year old girls;

8 ) No proof that Trump, unlike Epstein, prefers underage girls.

9) This allegation comes from California, home of rat F*****G and other smear campaigns (that were proven to be unfounded). Where do you live, Mookie?

Did you read the indictment that I posted? Or are you ignoring THAT, too? I did READ ALL of yours and thus there was no need for me to re-read it when you posted specific parts of it.

Either produce more evidence or get off the TDS.

I will re-POST since Duk wants to IGNORE this, too.

[Pack Rat]

What would a dick do?