RIP CHARLIE

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'll post this and just state an opinion.
Watch it or not, i think it's a very valid point.


Im not politically active nor versed. I haven't "chose" a side Obama left office and i really hated both Hillary and Trump. Neither of them really reflected any ideals or morals that i try to emulate, and i cannot in good faith, vote for either. Not that Obama got my vote but i digress.

I think with the death of Charlie Kirk, it really should speak in several volumes of just how volatile the American political landscape is. It's a "Us vs Them." Nevermind if you're a hypocrite *coughkarelcough*the fact remains, if you hold a different opinion or ideals, get prepared to get killed for it. I sat down on it earlier the other night and I immediately thought of Martin Luther King Jr. Another activist killed for his beliefs. It just seems like America is steam rolling into yet another drastic change that very may well challenge the very things our country was founded on. I can only hope sounder minds prevail but again, given this us vs them mentality, the debates, that just don't exist on a middle to lower class scale, simply won't happen. What we're going to be stuck with are hardcore morons that lean so far left or so far right, rather than just simply debate, end up killing one another. A very sad state of affairs.

Edit - fat fingered the post before proof reading. Oopsies.

[mookiemcgee]

Are we gonna see DDS on the next season of 90day fiancee trying to secure his EU passport? The drama for TV part could be that he lied about being a licensed dentist.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Fun fact. I have a half sister in Norway and I'm an uncle, so if i ever had a reason to visit the area, it'd be see her and my nephew. Will i leave America though? Probably. But it'd be Ireland.

[mookiemcgee]

Fun fact. I have a half sister in Norway and I'm an uncle, so if i ever had a reason to visit the area, it'd be see her and my nephew. Will i leave America though? Probably. But it'd be Ireland.

Once you marry your Norwegian nephew to gain a Norway passport, Ireland is totally on the table as a place to live!

Technically they aren't EU, but they signed up for Gluten Free EU membership (EEA) so you'd be good to go.

I have an uncle who moved to Ireland about 2 years ago from Utah with his wife. They love it!

[DirtyDishSoap]

Oh great! I only have to commit incest, possibly f*ck my half sister too for an insurance policy, and I'm good to go! Easy! Nothing booze can't solve!

Still got my vote. Too easy!

[jusplay4fun]

I never heard of Charlie Kirk up until his shooting, but he sounds like a carbon copy of Steven Crowder.

Did you watch the south park that included Charlie Kirk a few weeks ago? That episode is secretly about Steven Crowder, Kirk def stole his EXACT shtick!!!

Even IF he did, does that make him:
1) EVIL and thus he needed to be KILLED? That is what your comment implies, Mookie.
2) Does that make the message invalid?
3) Do artists borrow ideas and inspiration from others? Of Course, we do not live in a vacuum.
4) Did Charlie Kirk violate any copyright laws? That is a MOOT point NOW, since he was assassinated.

What on earth are you talking about?

Put down to crackpipe for a second and explain how anything in my two short sentences implied to you that someone should be killed lol.

Did you read the assigned homework before submitting this stupid post? Did you watch the south park episode? Do you even know who Steven Crowder is? Feels like you just decided to comment on something without any context whatsoever, when the post wasn't even directed at you.

I ain't gonna watch NO stooopid video nor doing your silly "homework." Explain yourself or get off the pot; either one.

NONE of your silly "homework" is worth my time. I put your videos on about the same level as parrot pee rat.

Assigning "homework" is not debate. Put your facts on the table and not in the house next door.

I think I put DOWN the Crack and the Pot.

[jusplay4fun]

I'll post this and just state an opinion.
Watch it or not, i think it's a very valid point.

This is one of the better videos I have seen in a long time. Thanks, DDS.

The speaker admits to his political stance, but gives a fairly fair and balanced assessment of the state of political discourse in the U.K. and in the USA, too. Political discourse has degenerated to battle lines drawn in that it is "us vs. them" and where compromise is a dirty word.

The most salient point is the speaker CORRECTLY blames both sides for the current state of affairs. He did not say so, but most on either side are NOT willing to compromise; even worse, both sides are not willing to actually LISTEN to the opposing viewpoint or opposing side. I will listen to those who present reasonable view in a civil manner.

With the current algorithms used on social media, those with a limited viewpoint get more of that same limited viewpoint from many sources and are THUS falsely convinced of the merit of their stance by the "preponderance of the [biased] evidence" presented. And they do not see that limitation as even being limited or biased. Many are not intelligent enough to even understand how they are being manipulated by the other side and by the very source of information. Pogo said it best: "We have met the enemy, and he is US."

[2dimes]

Dukasaur, I certainly did not mean to pile on. I was not commenting on the unfortunate situation with your father.

I still don’t know if Charlie was like that or not. I admit, I also don’t know he was any better.

If he was worse, I do not believe this was at all a good way to deal with a bad parent. Even if it might have worked out in your case.

It seems much more wrong than right.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'll post this and just state an opinion.
Watch it or not, i think it's a very valid point.

This is one of the better videos I have seen in a long time. Thanks, DDS.

The speaker admits to his political stance, but gives a fairly fair and balanced assessment of the state of political discourse in the U.K. and in the USA, too. Political discourse has degenerated to battle lines drawn in that it is "us vs. them" and where compromise is a dirty word.

The most salient point is the speaker CORRECTLY blames both sides for the current state of affairs. He did not say so, but most on either side are NOT willing to compromise; even worse, both sides are not willing to actually LISTEN to the opposing viewpoint or opposing side. I will listen to those who present reasonable view in a civil manner.

With the current algorithms used on social media, those with a limited viewpoint get more of that same limited viewpoint from many sources and are THUS falsely convinced of the merit of their stance by the "preponderance of the [biased] evidence" presented. And they do not see that limitation as even being limited or biased. Many are not intelligent enough to even understand how they are being manipulated by the other side and by the very source of information. Pogo said it best: "We have met the enemy, and he is US."

Johnathan Pie is perhaps the most unbiased left leaning comediac/satirical and blunt but honest opinion view I've seen from any creator. I highly recommend watching and digesting what he has to say in a political landscape. Obviously from the UK so his stakes in the US are relatively low but i generally have agreed with the guy for years. He pointed out this problem we've had when Trump was first voted in a decade ago and it's now just boiling over. I think he's very astute, whether you agree or not on how he stands on a political spectrum, he makes some very strong cases on how one should conduct themselves politically. Just a fun and educational watch imo.

[jusplay4fun]

I'll post this and just state an opinion.
Watch it or not, i think it's a very valid point.

This is one of the better videos I have seen in a long time. Thanks, DDS.

The speaker admits to his political stance, but gives a fairly fair and balanced assessment of the state of political discourse in the U.K. and in the USA, too. Political discourse has degenerated to battle lines drawn in that it is "us vs. them" and where compromise is a dirty word.

The most salient point is the speaker CORRECTLY blames both sides for the current state of affairs. He did not say so, but most on either side are NOT willing to compromise; even worse, both sides are not willing to actually LISTEN to the opposing viewpoint or opposing side. I will listen to those who present reasonable view in a civil manner.

With the current algorithms used on social media, those with a limited viewpoint get more of that same limited viewpoint from many sources and are THUS falsely convinced of the merit of their stance by the "preponderance of the [biased] evidence" presented. And they do not see that limitation as even being limited or biased. Many are not intelligent enough to even understand how they are being manipulated by the other side and by the very source of information. Pogo said it best: "We have met the enemy, and he is US."

Johnathan Pie is perhaps the most unbiased left leaning comediac/satirical and blunt but honest opinion view I've seen from any creator. I highly recommend watching and digesting what he has to say in a political landscape. Obviously from the UK so his stakes in the US are relatively low but i generally have agreed with the guy for years. He pointed out this problem we've had when Trump was first voted in a decade ago and it's now just boiling over. I think he's very astute, whether you agree or not on how he stands on a political spectrum, he makes some very strong cases on how one should conduct themselves politically. Just a fun and educational watch imo.

The title appears in the YouTube Preview on the screen and Post suggested his main point and was indeed revealing of something(s) he said in the video. So I broke my rule, DDS, of not watching many YouTube posted videos in this Forum. Mookie knows of my reluctance to watch most videos posted by most in this Forum, even before 2020. Most such videos are simply garbage, misintepreted by the poster, and/or frankly NOT worth the time it takes to load and watch. And this was TRUE before COVID, and is likely WORSE now. Too many parrot what their fellow mates in their small silo has posted and shared; these videos simply affirm their myopic and narrow point of view.

So, again, thanks to DDS for posting a good video worthwhile to be watched by those who care about good, civil, and fair political discourse and do not JUST want to score political points and yell and scream.

[jusplay4fun]

Here is a bit from long-lost bud Gary Denton. Why has he not posted since Nov. 2024? I wonder...

Re: Justice - 19 felony indictments in Georgia
Postby GaryDenton on Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:45 pm

This seems aimed at Saxi and the college dropouts he parrots.

The right’s most ignorant and dishonest partisans are trying to delegitimize the new Georgia charges against former President Donald Trump over his 2020 election subversion plot by claiming that the indictment from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis shows that, in the words of Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk, “watching cable TV and tweeting can now get you indicted.” This argument is nonsense: Prosecutors seeking to establish a conspiracy to further a criminal scheme use indictments to lay out the individual steps alleged participants undertook, many of which may not be themselves illegal, as the legal writer Julian Sanchez explained.
But this brand of dumb-or-lying blather inadvertently highlights a critical point: Trump’s obsessive consumption of right-wing media's lies and conspiracy theories about purported election fraud played an essential role in the effort to overturn the presidential election that ultimately triggered his indictment.
Trump sent at least 76 tweets hyping right-wing TV programming about supposed election fraud in the weeks between Election Day and the January 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol that he helped spur. His live-tweets from that period promoted incendiary and patently ridiculous conspiracy theories, including that Joe Biden benefited from “millions of Fake Votes”; that voting machines had deleted “2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES” and “shifted 2-3% of Trump Votes to Biden”; and that the U.S. Postal Service had been “tampering with hundreds of thousands of ballots.”

The then-president used that steady stream of “bullshit” from his TV allies to keep his supporters agitated and infuriated about the supposedly “rigged” election — including in Georgia.

[ConfederateSS]

Fun fact. I have a half sister in Norway and I'm an uncle, so if i ever had a reason to visit the area, it'd be see her and my nephew. Will i leave America though? Probably. But it'd be Ireland.

-----------------You can hook up with Rosie O'Donnell...She hangs out in pubs...HUGE BEER DRINKER... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
-----------------Staying on TOPIC ...
----------------BYE BYE JIMMY KIMMEL...THE LEFT IS MAKING Jimmy THEIR NEW MARTYR ...He said a LIE, that KIRK'S killer was MAGA,When everyone knows he was a LEFT RADICAL...To stir the pot...ABC/DISNEY was looking for a way to get rid of his costly show...Losing millions...for years....He did work for FOX/NFL...Couldn't pick winners ,Jimmy's picks of the week...HE WAS FIRED THERE FOR BEING BORING...ANOTHER BUSINESS CHOICE BY A NETWORK...NOT AN ATTACK ON FREE SPEECH...THE THE LEFT WANTS TO BELIEVE.....EVEN BLM IS MARCHING FOR JIMMY(WHO ONCE COVERED HIS WHOLE BODY IN BLACKFACE)...THAT DOESN'T BOTHER THE LEFT RADICALS....WHEN THEY BACK THE WRONG HORSE... ...TO LEAD THEIR BASE TO DESTRUCTION...

[jusplay4fun]

Both Kimmel and Cobert have been spewing politically divisive vile for a long time. I think their falling ratings are getting the consequences that they both deserve. BUT threatening FCC actions is STOOOPID; that borders on Censorship, in my mind.

What did Jimmy Kimmel say about Charlie Kirk? The comments from his monologue that led ABC to suspend his late-night show.

ABC said on Wednesday that it was taking Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show, Jimmy Kimmel Live!, off the air indefinitely following criticism of on-air comments Kimmel made in the wake of conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s killing.

“Jimmy Kimmel Live! will be pre-empted indefinitely,” an ABC spokesperson said in a brief statement to media outlets on Wednesday night. (...)


What did Kimmel say, exactly?
During his monologue on Monday, Kimmel said that President Trump’s supporters were trying to “score political points” by portraying Kirk’s accused killer, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, as a left-wing radical, and suggested Robinson was "one of them."

This is what Kimmel said:

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. (...)

During a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in England on Thursday, Trump suggested that Kimmel’s show was "fired" for “bad ratings” in addition to the remarks he made during Monday’s show.

“Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings more than anything else, and he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk,” Trump said when he and the prime minister were asked by a reporter whether free speech is “more under attack in Britain or America” in light of Kimmel’s indefinite hiatus.

“Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person,” the president continued. “He had very bad ratings and they should have fired him a long time ago. So you know, you can call that free speech or not, he was fired for lack of talent.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/article/what-did-jimmy-kimmel-say-about-charlie-kirk-the-comments-from-his-monologue-that-led-abc-to-suspend-his-late-night-show-142011825.html

and

Bill Maher says Jimmy Kimmel was ‘wrong’ to suggest Charlie Kirk’s killer supported MAGA — as he blasts ex-network over suspension (...)

HBO host Bill Maher said Friday that Jimmy Kimmel was “wrong” to suggest that Charlie Kirk’s suspected assassin was a MAGA Republican — but slammed his former network ABC for taking the comedian off the air.

“You know, Jimmy, look, I don’t think what he said was exactly right. I don’t agree. We don’t agree on that,” the liberal comedian said during the latest episode of “Real Time with Bill Maher.”

“Jimmy’s wrong, I think, to put him in one team,” Maher said, arguing that suspected sniper Tyler Robinson “doesn’t belong in either party — he belongs in a straitjacket.”

https://nypost.com/2025/09/19/media/bill-maher-says-jimmy-kimmel-was-wrong-to-suggest-charlie-kirks-killer-supported-maga-as-he-blasts-ex-network-over-suspension/

[ConfederateSS]

----------So , founder of Turning Point USA...Charlie Kirk was killed...Turning Point USA just voted ,Charlie's wife Erika as CEO of Turning point USA...
-------------- Does someone deserve to be made,take over something, just because they are married to that person...Should that person die ...It's not like say, The Ford Motor Company...Where an Idea, is different than a physical thing(car)...Where Ford's next in line would take over, so to speak...
-------------- Does marriage make people automatically qualified, for a job, work ...I SAY NO
-------------- It reminds me of SONNY BONO...When Sonny was killed, when he ran into a tree skiing...His wife Mary ran for his Congress seat...Just because she was married to him, felt entitled to the position,married to Sonny,not that she would be serving The AMERICAN people...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...I know...Charlie founded it...Technically she owns it...Idea, Movement...Then why take a vote???...Just say...I'm boss now...Unfortunately , she is not Charlie...His vision, ideas...

[Iron Maid]

RIP CHARLIE

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[Dukasaur]

----------[size=150]So , founder of Turning Point USA...Charlie Kirk was killed...

Charlie who? Oh yeah, the dude who's main marketable skill was humiliating little girls!

-Turning Point USA just voted ,Charlie's wife Erika as CEO of Turning point USA...
-------------- Does someone deserve to be made,take over something, just because they are married to that person...

I doubt if Erika will be nearly as good at humiliating little girls as he was. Then again, maybe she's a kickboxer. Instead of staged debates, she can lure them into staged kickboxing matches, make them cry there!

[HitRed]

My hopes and dreams go with her.

[mookiemcgee]

DEI hire?

[HitRed]

Erica and Charlie. Through marriage two become one.

[jusplay4fun]

DEI hire?

No, she is the wife (widow) of founder and CEO. And she can speak powerfully, articulately, and eloquently with emotion, too. GET your DEI manual OUT, Mookie and REVIEW IT.

A DEI hire would NOT be a pretty blonde, Mookie. Don't you know that person would HAVE to be black or African-American or at least half-black, and certainly not Nordic. Trans or gay is also a DEI SHOO-in. Hispanics may get a DEI consideration. BUT not a heterosexual white person.

And if the person espouses conservative values, NO matter what skin color or immigration status, NO WAY. Ask Winsome Earle-Sears.

Winsome Earle-Sears (born March 11, 1964) is an American politician and military veteran serving as the 42nd lieutenant governor of Virginia since 2022. A member of the Republican Party, she is Virginia's first female lieutenant governor.[2][3]

Born in Jamaica, Earle-Sears immigrated to the United States in 1970. She served in the Virginia House of Delegates from 2002 to 2004. She also served on the Virginia Board of Education, and ran for US Representative from Virginia's 3rd congressional district in 2004 and for US Senator in 2018. In 2021, Earle-Sears was elected lieutenant governor of Virginia, narrowly defeating Democratic nominee Hala Ayala. (...)

Earle-Sears served as an electrician in the United States Marines from 1983 to 1986.[8] Before running for public office, she directed a Salvation Army homeless shelter.[9]

(...) She is Virginia's first female lieutenant governor, as well as the first black female statewide officeholder in the Commonwealth.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winsome_Earle-Sears

Despite her DEI credentials, Winsome Earle-Sears gets a negative DEI score due to her conservative values.

[Iron Maid]

RIP CHARLIE

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[Dukasaur]

RIP CHARLIE

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