[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 4

[Loose Canon]

I got this comment after my lynch :

your a legend btw @SoN!c
absolutly crazy, but damn you are smart, and a great mafia player

Just wanted to post this

Like Ragian wanted to post "Suck it!" after his death

Charle you should have penalised mafia for the above post from sonic.

Even though the "comment" was probably from Knuckles

[Loose Canon]

Town looks like it is in a dire position.

I would argue town shouldn't vote until full consideration of best course has been made.

Chana I think you should say what your punishment from Charle re the ai stuff was now

[chanakam2020]

Town looks like it is in a dire position.

I would argue town shouldn't vote until full consideration of best course has been made.

Chana I think you should say what your punishment from Charle re the ai stuff was now

I lost my civic rights as the punishment and Charles Revoked my D-1 voting rights.

[hjelp]

I'm flattered.

[SoN!c]

I'm flattered.

Yes great game hjelp! I hope you come back in the next one! And Halrob too ofc!

[Loose Canon]

OK
So we need 4 for a lynch
We could be 3 town vs 2 mafia vs 1 sk
Dangerous for town to start voting because that could lead to an immediate loss.

Players remaining are
Loose
Chana
Kingm
Devante
Max
Devon

I think we need players to point out any reasons why they suspect more certain players over the others.

I'm not voting until this has been considered, but I'd have a strong emotional inclination to vote for Max because whilst it is par for the course for Max to say next to nothing, he's put next to nothing into the game - again, and if I'm going to lose let it be with a dead max.
For those of you who haven't played with Max before he's improving in terms of working things out at the end - he was very smart at the end of the last game for town in fact- and if he's mafia he will have been discussing happily with other mafia.
But I don't see why town (or mafia come to that) should lose to a SK Max. In fact I think I'd rather lose than draw.

Max, Max wherever/whatever you are time is long overdue for you to put a proper foot forward.

[Loose Canon]

By the way.

It is possible that there are only 2 mafia left with no SK, and that one of the mafia roles has an extra only on odd nights kill shot.

I'm definitely not banking on it, or even putting it forward as a strong possibility - but its possible - and might arguably give a balanced game in light of the power roles that town had but has lost.

[chanakam2020]

So the mystry about the higher authority who prevented our late COP Hals N1 action is solved I think.
Sonic the scum is role blocker & EW confirend Sonic visited Hal N1.
So it is not Darin put Hal in Jail.

If we have Shaman Role who can call souls of dead people and talk with them then we could have asked
1. At N1 who Darin put in to Jail
2. At N3 who Hal investigated & what is the outcome.

If there is such role for town now the time to come out.


Out of we 6 Loose is confirmed a townie by our late COP Hal.
and I know I am Good Boy my self.
So
Out of remaining 4 (Kingm,Devante,Max,Devon) 3 should be Bad Boys and we have 75% chance of getting a correct lynch if we select one random out of those 4.

Hm on D-3 Max was put in to L-2 . But Did not appear to claim anything.
If I remember it correctly Max did not post anything on D3.
So Max is now at top of my preffered voting list.
.
But I have to think and read some more.
Reason for Killing Halrob is Obvious. He is COP
But why Bad Boys select hjelp ??

I have to dig post to see what hjelp was to and who would have think hjelp is dangerous.
But I am ired to do that at the moment.

[chanakam2020]

Typo in my above post
ired => Tired

I am tired and sleep toi read and analyze at the moment.

[Kingm]

Ok, now we are the critical point, not sure what the right term is for that.

We have 3 different outcomes of D4 if we have 3 town, 2 mafia, SK:

1.SK gets lynched = Mafia Win
2.Town gets lynched = Mafia or SK win
3.Mafia gets lynched = Then the game is still up for grabs for everyone.

So we really really need to get a mafia today, orelse we are done.

Should we get claims from everyone? I think we probably have to, LC take the lead, you are our only confirmed townie (not sure how you are alive, but thats good, because we can trust and follow your lead).
Chana claimed Vanilla Town and I did the same earlier.

As far as I know, dev, devon and Max has not claimed anything.

I thin I got the options of the outcomes correct if that the fractions we have, but correct me if my logic is flawed.

I still feel like Max is mafia, like he has ghosted the whole game.
I think chana is Max's partner and dev or devon is the SK, or some combination.

[Kingm]

By the way.

It is possible that there are only 2 mafia left with no SK, and that one of the mafia roles has an extra only on odd nights kill shot.

I'm definitely not banking on it, or even putting it forward as a strong possibility - but its possible - and might arguably give a balanced game in light of the power roles that town had but has lost.

So 4 town 2 mafia?
Then we all of a sudden have at least an ok shot at the win.
But I feel like its more likely with 3 town, 2 maf, 1 sk, and the reason for only 1 NK N2 was that they tried to kill Ragian.

If I wore a betting man, I think I would put my money on option 2.

[Kingm]

But I feel like its more likely with 3 town, 2 maf, 1 sk, and the reason for only 1 NIGHTKILL NIGHT2 was that they BOTH tried to kill Ragian.

Missed a word while writing, and did not doublecheck, so I put it in quotes and caps locked the things I added/changed, so it understood

[Loose Canon]

Kingm - I already claimed Vanilla town during day2.

I'm going to go and sort by author as opposed to post time and read to see if anything new jumps out to me.

Before I do so I'll point out there has been suspicion on you, notably from extreme, so whilst I think there is onus on max and Devon to say what they think before you, there's onus on you to say what you think before me.

Fpd by king.

[Loose Canon]

At this point I prefer my 100 dollars or whatever currency to go towards
Amnesty International or Doctors Without Borders.

Noted Extreme.

I'll be good to my word.

[Devon99]

So we really really need to get a mafia today, or else we are done.

Sure, why not.

As far as I know, dev, devon and Max has not claimed anything.

There is nothing to claim

I still feel like Max is mafia, like he has ghosted the whole game.

Agreed Vote Max let him ne the first to claim.

I think chana is Max's partner and dev or devon is the SK, or some combination.

Not sure where that has come from, no idea about the rest but I think it's farily obvious, that if I was an SK I wouldn't have a clue what I was doing and would of almost certainly killed myself by now.

[Devon99]

ooops first quote was supposed to include the bit about getting claims, doh!!!!

[Loose Canon]

Devon, I don't like the ACTUAL vote even though it's on max.

I have an alternative idea to propose.
Players may not like it because they suspect me, or because they don't like the idea.

1. Nobody places actual votes
2. Players say whether they would vote max and stick with it unless I call the vote off.
3. I determine who votes max and in what order if I decide that's the way to go
4. Players can if they wish also specify any other players they would vote for and stick with it, again unless I call the vote off.

I'll say here and now that I would be prepared to vote max and stick with it unless 4 other players say the same.

[hjelp]

Am I in limbo?

[Loose Canon]

Devon, I don't like the ACTUAL vote even though it's on max.

I have an alternative idea to propose.
Players may not like it because they suspect me, or because they don't like the idea.

1. Nobody places actual votes
2. Players say whether they would vote max and stick with it unless I call the vote off.
3. I determine who votes max and in what order if I decide that's the way to go
4. Players can if they wish also specify any other players they would vote for and stick with it, again unless I call the vote off.

I'll say here and now that I would be prepared to vote max and stick with it unless 4 other players say the same.

Nobody is saying anything.
Perhaps the above came over as dictatorial?
If so I apologise - to everyone EXCEPT MAX.

[Loose Canon]

Lets look at a scenario where we currently have 3 Town 2 Mafia 1 SK and SK is Max.

In that scenario if we lynch Max, Mafia then kills a Town takes us to 2 v 2 and Mafia wins.

In that scenario if we however vote NO LYNCH, Max has a choice who to kill, and Mafia has a choice whether to kill town or kill Max.
If Max opts for town, if Mafia kills town too depending on whether Mafia and Max choose same target we go into D5, either 1T 2M 1SK (Max) or 2T 2M 1SK (Max)
However if SK Max opts for Town and Mafia opt for Max we go into D5, 2T 2M and so Mafia wins.

Alternatively in a Max is SK scenario and NO LYNCH Max might opt to kill a Mafia.
So if Mafia kill Town we go into D5, 2T 1M 1SK Max
If however Mafia kill Max we go into D5, 3T 1M and Town have to correctly identify the Mafia to lynch D5 because if they don't Mafia wins.

Does anyone want to question the above scenario painting as I see it?

[Devon99]

I don't question your scenarios, I think either you are genuinely trying help for the good of the town, or you have some evil end game in mind and trying to set the wheels in motion. For now I'm happy to assume it's not the latter.

The question of voting, I'm not entirely sure what good your plan does. But obviously I've already declared I would vote for Max so if your order of voting would be me voting first, nothing more to say here. If not a) you better let know b) other people better get onboard with your plan.

[Devante]

Number one...Devon unvote, that is step one like loose said or your up on the block

[Kingm]

Lets look at a scenario where we currently have 3 Town 2 Mafia 1 SK and SK is Max.

In that scenario if we lynch Max, Mafia then kills a Town takes us to 2 v 2 and Mafia wins.

In that scenario if we however vote NO LYNCH, Max has a choice who to kill, and Mafia has a choice whether to kill town or kill Max.
If Max opts for town, if Mafia kills town too depending on whether Mafia and Max choose same target we go into D5, either 1T 2M 1SK (Max) or 2T 2M 1SK (Max)
However if SK Max opts for Town and Mafia opt for Max we go into D5, 2T 2M and so Mafia wins.

Alternatively in a Max is SK scenario and NO LYNCH Max might opt to kill a Mafia.
So if Mafia kill Town we go into D5, 2T 1M 1SK Max
If however Mafia kill Max we go into D5, 3T 1M and Town have to correctly identify the Mafia to lynch D5 because if they don't Mafia wins.

Does anyone want to question the above scenario painting as I see it?

OFF TOPIC:
I have had a busy weekend, early celebrating my 40th birthday, I will probably be a bit more active later today, at least tomorrow.


But I thought we thought Max was Mafia, but I guess he can be SK, frick, we need to get Mafia, because lynching SK would just win it for mafia at the spot, if its 3T 2M 1S scenario...
I need to do the same as you did LC, look at all the remaining players post, and see if that gives me any additional info.
The problem here is like now there in almost only inactive players, and we have no info (except LC town) to go on, so yeah this is iffy.

[Devante]

tHINK i GOT THIS, LOVE TO SEE THE ACTIVITY. IT'S GREAT. SO TO BE CLEAR, GONNNA RECAP AND WANT TO SEE SOME MOE ACTIVITY BEFORE LAYING DOWN IDEAS, LET'SM SAY, IDEAS BUT SCUM IS SOLVED, YOU GUYS ARTICULATED YOURSEVES SO WELL, KUDOS KIDDOS

[Devante]

OK RECaP. i'll start with Loose.... 100% thought you were scum or potential SK, mainly because of your drive and zeroing on Ex as given his gameplay totally saw him as town personally. And any doubt was quenched by rags. So way I see it is since Loose is the proven town based on our town cop he's the only one I'll listen to. honestly I originally saw you as scum or a potential SK however I don't buy that anymore, as I think right now you're on the right track yet still narrow sided.