halrob64 wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2025 12:39 pm
I suppose I need to spend my Saturday off going through all Sonics clues.
I want to believe in Ragian but there are inconsistencies
Jhelp I think is not making sense ref the night activities of Charle, the answer seems very vague and obstructive
Loose is chaotic
Not sure where you are at Devante?
Right now Halrob I'm on the fence whether the information I have has gotten misconstrued or misunderstand by me and you are actually mafia who was converted at beginning of game. Unlikely 3P as you were poisoned unless there's some mechanism there for that and to counter it allowing for a misdirect under the REID technique. For now I have to go with how things point out without any of this REID stuff which in that case makes you town.
With Loose I can see a second cop in play mainly because his investigation on Devon would show a fake result given Darin the quack protected devon night 1 which would as quack messed up that investigation. However Loose is playing very different then he was at the start and in my mind points to likely mafia over 3p. Further warranted by his voting and never hitting scum players. But there is that investigation that was flipped. There's a good possibility he is town and just as usual misguided.
Ragian has the hardest to prove. I can see him bussing a player once but to call it out twice, that's very unlikely. But 3P very possible. Although he has not been sowing chaos as much as say Loose, hjelp or even halrob with his random poems in the mix. But his role is the hardest to verify. There is no way to know if true unless it's triggered by other then town and as such makes it the best fake role to hide behind.
And hjelp, has played townish but always confused me with his random if opt a doesn't work then it must be opt b, or c, or d. And a lot of time putting things in that didn't make sense or seemed fabricated. Similar to Loose in that fashion. Now the Charle result adds some doubt in as well. Inexperience as player could both be adding to difficulty in representing himself as town and articulating it or could be causing difficulty trying to navigate his fake town role with his counter alliance role. But his role does make a lot of sense for what we know of game set-up and the roles that have flipped, mainly charle, ew and the mafia roles.
So where am I at Halrob, thinking jumping in incoming traffic was maybe not a bad idea after all. My gut tells me this REID technique would have you as mafia and Ragian as 3P. But things don't line up and the chaos agent wants a false or misguided manipulated lynch to win. So I hesitate going down that road.
From mechanics side Ragian makes the most sense to lynch as his role can be verified along with alliance since loose and hjelps roles compliment each other and therefore D5, if there even is a D5, could be used to skim out who is lying. If Ragian flips town then the other two are guilty with the possibility of you being a possible party in the mix although less likely. But I don't like that as if he is town it is a role I don't want us to lose.
So letting my wheels turn a bit here some longer
