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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:36 am

heavycola wrote:backglass is clearly a freemason agent working for the government


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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:43 am

:lol:
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Postby vtmarik on Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:47 am

Backglass wrote:
heavycola wrote:backglass is clearly a freemason agent working for the government


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Wow, that guy really should have used Clearasil when he had the chance.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:51 am

Not sure if clearasil would be strong enough for one that big.
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:32 pm

Backglass wrote:I already went through this once with our redneck friend point-by-point, but he obviously cannot remember things for more than a few hours. A few months pass and he pops up with the exact same argument AGAIN, even though he was proven wrong multiple times. C'mon xtra, cant you EVER come up with anything new? It's always the same.

The biggest hole in this entire comedy is the fact that HUNDREDS of people are in on the conspiracy and not a single one has come forward in FIVE YEARS to say anything, even though it would bring them MILLIONS. Who are these robots?! We cant even keep a secret prison quiet YET the biggest conspiracy of all time is air-tight? Right. You yourself xtra have admitted the government is run by buffoons yet they pulled this off?

And where exactly IS the plane full of civilians if it never hit the pentagon? Where are all the people? Are you saying our government flew this plane somewhere, killed everyone and dismantled the plane without anyone around knowing about it? :roll:

You only continue to make yourself look like a fool with these baseless rants.

(and don't forget to call me a fag and claim I posted gay porn. :lol:)

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Wheel rims
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Landing gear strut
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More parts complete with "Boeing Green" primer.
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Part of the APU (Auxilliary Power Unit)
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Hit lightpoles & damaged vehicles
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Debris...complete with American Airlines logo
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How about a few eyewitnesses?

"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001

"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002

"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20

"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News

Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn�t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." Massachusetts News

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." dcmilitary.com November 16, 2001

"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said. Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.] NFPA Journal November 1, 2001

Now would you please take your banjo and go back to your shack in Mississippi?



yeah and I already showed the video and time slots to debunk everything you just posted, the wheel on a 757 is over 8 feet tall that wheel is from a drone also a 757 has 8 wheels not 1. also that pcs that you claim is from a 757 is picked up by a guy in a suit with 1 hand it is about as heavy as a tube of tooth paste and it isnt even burnt....and there is dozens of pentagon workers out in the field picking up small pieces of fibroglass....probably from a drone. also that pic of landing gear is laughable, on a 757 they wiegh over 5 tons and or wrapped in tongston that pcs looks like a fucking floor jack....get real nobody buys that shit. ohh and the hole, where is the damage from the wings that swollowed up the wings??? LOL

go back and re-remember the parts I just ate your fucking lunch over.
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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:25 pm

xtratabasco wrote:yeah and I already showed the video and time slots to debunk everything you just posted, the wheel on a 757 is over 8 feet tall


You are such a fool, it's not funny. 8 foot wheels huh?

Here is a picture of your eight foot tall 757 wheel along with a 12 foot tall flight tech. :lol:

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Here is an eight foot tall child in front of the larger 747 Jumbo Jet landing gear.

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xtratabasco wrote:also that pcs that you claim is from a 757 is picked up by a guy in a suit with 1 hand it is about as heavy as a tube of tooth paste and it isnt even burnt...


Huh? Please try again you illiterate f*ck and this time actually form a question or at least have a point.

xtratabasco wrote:.and there is dozens of pentagon workers out in the field picking up small pieces of fibroglass.


Which means....what. Nothing. Amazing how you can spot fiberglass...in a torched field...in a photo.

xtratabasco wrote:also that pic of landing gear is laughable, on a 757 they wiegh over 5 tons and or wrapped in tongston


10,000 pound landing gear? You do realize that these planes actually fly don't you? :lol: What next. 5000 pound toilets? And yes my little backwoods buddy, that's the front landing strut from flight 77. If you had actually been on or near an airplane you would know these comments are just assinine, but we all know you will never have the money to actually fly in an airplane. :Pig farming doesnt bring in that kind of cash!


xtratabasco wrote:ohh and the hole, where is the damage from the wings that swollowed up the wings???


Ahhhh yes, a common myth among those with no knowledge of airplanes or physics. First, a 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building. Estimates from even your own wacko sites claim the hole is 13-16 across.

But where are the wings you say? Do you really expect a plane hitting a building to leave a perfect outline of an airplane like Wile Coyote you inbred fool? :lol: Most of a commercial airliner is just a thin aluminum shell, insulation, a thin plastic inner liner, some carpet and seats. They're designed to be as light as possible so they can carry more cargo and more people while using less fuel and at the same time remain "safe". The wings are hollow to accommodate fuel tanks. Hollow things collapse very easily especially when filled with jet fuel. You SAW the planes hit the world trade center. Where did the wings go? Inside the hole...watch the video.

The majority of the debris was inside the building. In your small mind you imagine a plane hitting a wall and exploding backwards onto the lawn evidently, much like when your "mammy" drove the tractor into the barn while drunk on perfume.

When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring.

You will laugh this off as we all know you have no knowledge of Physics and the concept is much to great for your small mind...but thats how it works.

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You are once again grasping at straws "bubba". You see, my brother, sister and brother in-law all work for Boeing in Seattle...my father for 45 years before retiring. I have been around those "eight foot wheels" all my life. :lol:

Now...watch everyone as our redneck friend blows it all off as lies, providing no evidence to the contrary.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:52 pm

Guys, guys. Let's discuss United Airlines flight 93!
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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:01 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Guys, guys. Let's discuss United Airlines flight 93!


Please start another topic. This one is about the Pentagon as the title suggests. :roll:
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:04 pm

Yeah but that's a much more lousy conspiracy story.
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:39 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:yeah and I already showed the video and time slots to debunk everything you just posted, the wheel on a 757 is over 8 feet tall


You are such a fool, it's not funny. 8 foot wheels huh?

Here is a picture of your eight foot tall 757 wheel along with a 12 foot tall flight tech. :lol:

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xtratabasco wrote:also that pcs that you claim is from a 757 is picked up by a guy in a suit with 1 hand it is about as heavy as a tube of tooth paste and it isnt even burnt...


Huh? Please try again you illiterate f*ck and this time actually form a question or at least have a point.

xtratabasco wrote:.and there is dozens of pentagon workers out in the field picking up small pieces of fibroglass.


Which means....what. Nothing. Amazing how you can spot fiberglass...in a torched field...in a photo.

xtratabasco wrote:also that pic of landing gear is laughable, on a 757 they wiegh over 5 tons and or wrapped in tongston


10,000 pound landing gear? You do realize that these planes actually fly don't you? :lol: What next. 5000 pound toilets? And yes my little backwoods buddy, that's the front landing strut from flight 77. If you had actually been on or near an airplane you would know these comments are just assinine, but we all know you will never have the money to actually fly in an airplane. :Pig farming doesnt bring in that kind of cash!


xtratabasco wrote:ohh and the hole, where is the damage from the wings that swollowed up the wings???


Ahhhh yes, a common myth among those with no knowledge of airplanes or physics. First, a 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building. Estimates from even your own wacko sites claim the hole is 13-16 across.

But where are the wings you say? Do you really expect a plane hitting a building to leave a perfect outline of an airplane like Wile Coyote you inbred fool? :lol: Most of a commercial airliner is just a thin aluminum shell, insulation, a thin plastic inner liner, some carpet and seats. They're designed to be as light as possible so they can carry more cargo and more people while using less fuel and at the same time remain "safe". The wings are hollow to accommodate fuel tanks. Hollow things collapse very easily especially when filled with jet fuel. You SAW the planes hit the world trade center. Where did the wings go? Inside the hole...watch the video.

The majority of the debris was inside the building. In your small mind you imagine a plane hitting a wall and exploding backwards onto the lawn evidently, much like when your "mammy" drove the tractor into the barn while drunk on perfume.

When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring.

You will laugh this off as we all know you have no knowledge of Physics and the concept is much to great for your small mind...but thats how it works.

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You are once again grasping at straws "bubba". You see, my brother, sister and brother in-law all work for Boeing in Seattle...my father for 45 years before retiring. I have been around those "eight foot wheels" all my life. :lol:

Now...watch everyone as our redneck friend blows it all off as lies, providing no evidence to the contrary.



I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:
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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:44 pm

xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:


And that my friends is how you OWN a redneck. :lol:

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Postby Dancing Mustard on Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:56 pm

xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:

I want to see pics of the missile hitting the Pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not just whinging and half-baked theories. I want to see pictoral evidence proving that a missile or drone hit the Pentagon.

If you can't produce them then GFY.
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:27 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:


And that my friends is how you OWN a redneck. :lol:

....next!



just as we thought, you and this government cant or wont show them.


lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


just like the 19 kids with box cutters that completly kicked our asses.


yep :lol: :lol:


you crack me up :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Iz Man on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:28 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:


And that my friends is how you OWN a redneck. :lol:

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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:30 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:


And that my friends is how you OWN a redneck. :lol:

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also I meant engines, where are they, they are over 8 feet tall and they dont melt.

did they get sucked into the black hole? :lol:


booo they vaporized lol :lol: :lol: yeah they vaporized just like this government said they did.



lol
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Postby Iz Man on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:31 pm

xtratabasco wrote:just as we thought, you and this government cant or wont show them.
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
just like the 19 kids with box cutters that completly kicked our asses.
yep :lol: :lol:
you crack me up :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:32 pm

show us the pics....


thats all we ask.






lol


but you cant :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:32 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:


And that my friends is how you OWN a redneck. :lol:

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Re: The 757 that hit the Pentagon

Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:33 pm

xtratabasco wrote: 2 minute video about 9-11 and the Pentagon

http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/





this reporter cant find any 757 debris either.


lol




just show us the pictures






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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:54 pm

Banjo Boy....What on earth makes you think that the two engines on a 757 would remain intact, untouched after a 350 mile per hour flaming crash? Where are the engines from the WTC jets?

Gone. Obliterated. Although titanium is used, engines are not 100% titanium.

Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached, some hoses and the familiar webbed wire wraps (to the right of the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the yellow primer)

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I see you have resorted to the "backed in a corner, so I will use more smilies" approach as you usually do.

The gay insults will be next I am sure as that is your usual tactic when shown to be an asshat.

Feel free to post ANY pictures of your missile/drone/spacecraft. :lol:
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:55 pm

Xtra, since your not listening to anyone or even aknowledging that we might JUST MIGHT be right, and since you only post the same thing over and over, the Dilbert cartoon has something to say to you...

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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:10 pm

Backglass wrote:Banjo Boy....What on earth makes you think that the two engines on a 757 would remain intact, untouched after a 350 mile per hour flaming crash? Where are the engines from the WTC jets?

Gone. Obliterated. Although titanium is used, engines are not 100% titanium.

Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached, some hoses and the familiar webbed wire wraps (to the right of the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the yellow primer)

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I see you have resorted to the "backed in a corer, so I will use more smilies" approach as you usually do.

The gay insults will be next I am sure as that is your usual tactic when shown to be an asshat.

Feel free to post ANY pictures of your missile/drone/spacecraft. :lol:



this government said it vaporized lol


I want to see debris and ripped up lawn and damage by the wings to the hole in the wall.

the video tapes that the FBI took from surrounding gas stations and the tapes at the pentagon would help out, other than that I settle for some pictures of seats, luggage, tires, engines, dead people, wings, tail sections.




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:





but theres more


Pentagon Report fails to demonstrate that damage to the Pentagon was caused by a Boeing 757

By Sami Yli-Karjanmaa

The Pentagon Building Performance Report (January 2003 – American Society of Civil Engineers) fails in its attempt to show that the structural damage to the Pentagon on 9/11 was caused by a Boeing 757 aircraft.

This key conclusion is based on nine observations which can be divided into two categories, based on whether they apply to events prior to, or during, the crash of the aircraft. As regards the first group, the overall conclusion is that the approach of the aircraft, and its damage cannot have taken place in the manner put forward in the report. This conclusion is supported by the following observations:

the aircraft's reported 42º approach angle is not possible for a B-757;
the aircraft's right wing hitting a generator cannot account for the narrowness and discontinuity of the damage to the facade as proposed by the report;
the intact cable spools in the trajectory of the aircaft are incompatible with the information on the impact contained in the report.
and
there is no evidence to support the claim of the left engine having hit a vent structure; such a hit would also not explain the narrowness of the damage to the facade.
For the second group, the overall conclusion is that the report's description of the impact of the plane and of the damage caused manifestly contradicts photographic evidence from the scene. The description includes impossible, contradictory and unexplained phenomena:

the allegation of the aircraft's fuselage sliding into the first floor has no physical credibility;
the facade damage on the right side of the opening in the outer wall does not have anything in common with the shape, size and position of the alleged B-757;
the facade damage on the left side of the opening are not suggestive of the proposed impact of a B-757;
the tail of the aircraft left no visible marks on the facade while the report in no way explains this;
and
the report fails to provide any kind of explanation for the hole in the wall of Ring C.
The uncertainties related to the alleged point of impact as well as the approach angle, vertical position and inclination of the aircraft do not weaken the conclusion presented herein that the Pentagon could not have been hit by a Boeing 757 in the manner described in the report. This is because changing one of these factors to allow the better explanation of a particular damage (or the lack of it) renders the other damage even less comprehensible.

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Re: The 757 that hit the Pentagon

Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:23 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
xtratabasco wrote: 2 minute video about 9-11 and the Pentagon

http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/





this reporter cant find any 757 debris either.


lol




just show us the pictures






:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



here is a link with some pics of plane debris.....but not at the pentagon


http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html


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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:31 pm

unriggable wrote:You really think that all those witnesses are full of shit?



you mean these guys?



Lets look at those eyewitnesses again. These are the ones who say they saw the 757 hit the Pentagon.
Q. What about all the eyewitnesses that said they saw the 757 hit the Pentagon?

I came up with a list of roughly 110 named individuals who have claimed, at one time or another,
to have witnessed something flying near,
headed towards, and/or crashing into the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001.
However, nearly three dozen of these individuals held off telling their tales
until long after the official version of events
had thoroughly penetrated the American psyche, leaving roughly 75 people who claimed,
in the hours and days immediately following the attack,
that they had witnessed the event.

Consider the following list of self-described witnesses:

Gary Bauer, Paul Begala, Bobby Eberle, Mike Gerson, Alfred Regnery, and Greta Van Susteren.
Many of them need no introduction, but let's run through the list anyway:
Gary Bauer: Talking head and former Republican presidential candidate
who has been linked to the notorious Project for a New American Century.
Paul Begala: Democratic Party operative and nominally liberal punching bag on CNN's "Crossfire."
Bobby Eberle: President and CEO of GOPUSA, a portal of right-wing propaganda.
Mike Gerson: Director of George W. Bush's speech writing staff.
Alfred Regnery: President of Regnery Publishing, another portal of right-wing propaganda --
one that has seen fit to bestow upon the world the literary stylings of Ann Coulter,
the Swift Boat Veterans, and numerous other accomplished liars.
Greta Van Susteren: Nominally liberal legal analyst for Fox News.

All of the people on that list share at least one thing in common: they are all professional liars.
It is their job, individually and collectively, to lie to the American people. On a daily basis.
They are, by any objective appraisal, propagandists for the state.
So if all of them are selling the same story, in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary,
it is probably best to assume that they might not be telling the truth.

Let's take a look now at some of the other people that are hawking the same story:
Dennis Clem, Penny Elgas, Albert Hemphill, Lincoln Leibner, Stephen McGraw, Mitch Mitchell,
Patty Murray, Rick Renzi, James Robbins, Meseidy Rodriguez,
Darb Ryan, Elizabeth Smiley, and Clyde Vaughn. And who are they? Allow me to handle the introductions:

Dennis Clem is a Deputy Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
Penny Elgas sits on the FDIC Advisory Committee on Banking Policy, alongside of Jean Baker,
who just happens to be the Chief of Staff at the Office of President George H.W. Bush.
Albert Hemphill is a Lt. General with the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization.
Captain (now Major) Lincoln Leibner is a communications officer for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
Stephen McGraw is a former U.S. Department of Justice attorney reborn as an Opus Dei priest.
Colonel Mitch Mitchell serves as a CBS News war spinner military consultant.
Patty Murray is a United States Senator (D-Washington).
Rick Renzi is a United States Congressman (R-Arizona).
James Robbins is a contributor to National Review, a national security analyst,
and a Senior Fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council



I'm not sure exactly who Meseidy Rodriguez is, but his name appears in legal filings
concerning Dick Cheney's top-secret energy policy meetings, which probably isn't a good sign.
Vice Admiral Darb Ryan is the Chief of U.S. Naval Personnel.
Elizabeth Smiley is an intelligence operations specialist with Civil Aviation Security at FAA headquarters --
which means that she is one of the people who inexplicably failed to perform their jobs on September 11, 2001,
possibly because she was busy watching phantom jetliners crashing into the Pentagon.
Brig. General Clyde A. Vaughn is the deputy director of military support to civil authorities --
which means that he is another one of the people who inexplicably failed to perform their jobs on September 11, 2001,
possibly because he was also busy watching phantom jetliners crashing into the Pentagon.

Anybody see anyone on that list that they would want to buy a used car from? No?

How about Colonel Bruce Elliot or Major Joseph Candelario? Or Lt. Cols. Stuart Artman or Frank
"Had I not hit the deck, the plane would have taken off my head"
Probst? Still no? Then how about Elaine McCusker, a Co-Chairman of the Coalition for National Security Research?
Or retired Naval Commanders Donald Bouchoux or Lesley Kelly?
How about Shari Taylor, a finance manager at the Defense Intelligence Agency, or Philip Sheuerman,
the Associate General Counsel for the U.S. Air Force?

How about any of the names on this list:
Bob Dubill, Mary Ann Owens, Richard Benedetto, Christopher Munsey, Vin Narayanan, Joel Sucherman,
Mike Walter, Steve Anderson, Fred Gaskins and Mark Faram?
Aside from claiming to have witnessed the attack on the Pentagon, what do these ten people have in common?
We'll get to that in just a moment, but first let's hear from Mr. Faram,
who is, it will be recalled, the gentleman who captured the two famous shots of the alleged aircraft debris
that many investigators have inexplicably spent countless hours
trying to match up with images of various American Airlines aircraft fuselages:
.

Having established that, let's now take a look at who our group of mystery witnesses are
(or who they were at the time of the Pentagon attack):

Bob Dubill was the executive editor for USA Today.
Mary Ann Owens was a journalist for Gannett.
Richard Benedetto was a reporter for USA Today.
Christopher Munsey was a reporter for Navy Times.
Vin Narayanan was a reporter for USA Today.
Joel Sucherman was a multimedia editor for USA Today.
Mike Walter was a reporter for USA Today.
Steve Anderson was the director of communications for USA Today.
Fred Gaskins was the national editor for USA Today.
Mark Faram was a reporter for Navy Times.

Is it just me, or does anyone else detect a pattern here?
Bob Franken: What can you tell us about the plane itself?
Tim Timmerman: It was a Boeing 757, American Airlines, no question.
Franken: You say it was a Boeing, and you say it was a 757 or 767?
Timmerman: 7-5-7.
Franken: 757, which, of course ?
Timmerman: American Airlines. Franken: American Airlines ...

And who exactly was this witness who was so ****sure of his identification of the plane?
No one seems to know. One researcher (Jerry Russell)
failed in his efforts to verify that he is an actual person.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:02 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:

I want to see pics of the missile hitting the Pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not just whinging and half-baked theories. I want to see pictoral evidence proving that a missile or drone hit the Pentagon.

If you can't produce them then GFY.


hehehe. Xtra i think you and this thread just got counted out.
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