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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:04 pm

heavycola wrote:
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xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:

I want to see pics of the missile hitting the Pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not just whinging and half-baked theories. I want to see pictoral evidence proving that a missile or drone hit the Pentagon.

If you can't produce them then GFY.


hehehe. Xtra i think you and this thread just got counted out.



thats fine.


I still think the American people deserve to listen to the black box recordings, see pictures of the debris and see the videos that were taken by the FBI, is that so much to ask for?
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:22 pm

Backglass wrote:I already went through this once with our redneck friend point-by-point, but he obviously cannot remember things for more than a few hours. A few months pass and he pops up with the exact same argument AGAIN, even though he was proven wrong multiple times. C'mon xtra, cant you EVER come up with anything new? It's always the same.

The biggest hole in this entire comedy is the fact that HUNDREDS of people are in on the conspiracy and not a single one has come forward in FIVE YEARS to say anything, even though it would bring them MILLIONS. Who are these robots?! We cant even keep a secret prison quiet YET the biggest conspiracy of all time is air-tight? Right. You yourself xtra have admitted the government is run by buffoons yet they pulled this off?

And where exactly IS the plane full of civilians if it never hit the pentagon? Where are all the people? Are you saying our government flew this plane somewhere, killed everyone and dismantled the plane without anyone around knowing about it? :roll:

You only continue to make yourself look like a fool with these baseless rants.

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Landing gear strut
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More parts complete with "Boeing Green" primer.
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Part of the APU (Auxilliary Power Unit)
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Hit lightpoles & damaged vehicles
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Debris...complete with American Airlines logo
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How about a few eyewitnesses?

"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001

"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002

"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20

"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News

Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn�t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment." Massachusetts News

Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building." dcmilitary.com November 16, 2001

"The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we saw pieces of the nose gear. The devastation was horrific. It was obvious that some of the victims we found had no time to react. The distance the firefighters had to travel down corridors to reach the fires was a problem. With only a good 25 minutes of air in their SCBA bottles, to save air they left off their face pieces as they walked and took in a lot of smoke," Captain Defina said. Captain Defina was the shift commander [of an aircraft rescue firefighters crew.] NFPA Journal November 1, 2001

Now would you please take your banjo and go back to your shack in Mississippi?



this simple link debunks all of your pics.

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/debris.html



backglass, cant you do any better than that?

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Postby Dancing Mustard on Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:00 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
heavycola wrote:
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xtratabasco wrote:I want to see pics of the 757 hitting the pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not 1 scrap of tin and a floor jack and half a wheel.

If you cant produce them then stfu :lol:

I want to see pics of the missile hitting the Pentagon.

I also want to see pics of the debris, not just whinging and half-baked theories. I want to see pictoral evidence proving that a missile or drone hit the Pentagon.

If you can't produce them then GFY.


hehehe. Xtra i think you and this thread just got counted out.
thats fine.


I still think the American people deserve to listen to the black box recordings, see pictures of the debris and see the videos that were taken by the FBI, is that so much to ask for?
That's lame.

I still think that the CC public deserves to be shown some evidence that something other than a plane hit the Pentagon. To see the pictures of a missile hitting it, or wreckage that can conclusively be shown to originate from a 'drone'. Isn't there any real evidence of these things happening? Where are the pics? Are they so much to ask for?
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Postby Backglass on Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:58 pm

xtratabasco wrote:I still think the American people deserve to listen to the black box recordings, see pictures of the debris and see the videos that were taken by the FBI, is that so much to ask for?


No it's not, and thats the first rational thing you have said in this entire thread.

As for your "debunking the debunkers" site, I will say the same to you about "using your head".

All that site does is say things like "Why is this piece not burnt?" and "Why is this piece off by itself?". Well Senor, there are pieces of the planes that hit the WTC with no burns and odd pieces found on rooftops, yet we saw them smash in. Why must the entire plane be a blackened BBQ? Then...when a photo DOES show a scorched blackened BBQ your site asks "Why cant we recognize any pieces of plane"!! :lol: Well, which is it?

The point is that jets crashing into buildings are not anything we have a lot of experience with. In fact practically none so who knows why some have scorch marks and others don't, but it sure isn't "proof" that is was planted. It is only proof that it wasn't near fire, no more no less. Anything else is just reaching. People often survive plane crashes unharmed while others roast. Plane crashes are not automobile crashes.

I know you are no fan of our government, I'm certainly not either but you have to be joking to believe that the events of September 11th were all a hoax. Our government idiots cant do anything right these days yet they can pull this off? C'mon xtra.

Why have no witnesses come forward? This is not a lone gunman, this is thousands of people working for a common coverup. Surely one...JUST ONE would come forward in the last five years and blow the lid for the fame, money, etc. Are they all so brainwashed they can't speak?

And what of the real plane then...where is it? What about the crew that flew the drone. Do you honestly think they willingly killed innocent people and attacked their own government to make GWB look like a hero?

If you take a step back, it's preposterous.

xtratabasco wrote:other than that I settle for some pictures of seats, luggage, tires, engines, dead people, wings, tail sections.


I will keep searching for you, but here are the dead people you requested. These are actual exhibits used in the USA v/s Moussaoui trial. I wont post the pics but give you the links as they are rather gruesome, but if you want dead Pentagon bodies, here ya go.

WARNING. Actual pictures of 9/11 victims. Do not click if sqeamish.
Link #1
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Link #3
Link #4

Hope your happy now.

Think about this Xtra. Substituting a missile for the plane would have made the attack much more complicated, involved more technicians with insider knowledge, and not provided any direct benefit to the plotters.

The "no plane" theories don't make sense -- why would they bother to substitute? why risk being caught in the act, if someone got a clear photo? Why not just remote control a 757 into the empty part of the building?
The area around the Pentagon is densely populated, and a clear photo showing something other than the 757 would compromise the entire operation and expose the hoax before it got started!
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Postby xtratabasco on Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:11 pm

Backglass wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I still think the American people deserve to listen to the black box recordings, see pictures of the debris and see the videos that were taken by the FBI, is that so much to ask for?


No it's not, and thats the first rational thing you have said in this entire thread.

As for your "debunking the debunkers" site, I will say the same to you about "using your head".

All that site does is say things like "Why is this piece not burnt?" and "Why is this piece off by itself?". Well Senor, there are pieces of the planes that hit the WTC with no burns and odd pieces found on rooftops, yet we saw them smash in. Why must the entire plane be a blackened BBQ? Then...when a photo DOES show a scorched blackened BBQ your site asks "Why cant we recognize any pieces of plane"!! :lol: Well, which is it?

The point is that jets crashing into buildings are not anything we have a lot of experience with. In fact practically none so who knows why some have scorch marks and others don't, but it sure isn't "proof" that is was planted. It is only proof that it wasn't near fire, no more no less. Anything else is just reaching. People often survive plane crashes unharmed while others roast. Plane crashes are not automobile crashes.

I know you are no fan of our government, I'm certainly not either but you have to be joking to believe that the events of September 11th were all a hoax. Our government idiots cant do anything right these days yet they can pull this off? C'mon xtra.

Why have no witnesses come forward? This is not a lone gunman, this is thousands of people working for a common coverup. Surely one...JUST ONE would come forward in the last five years and blow the lid for the fame, money, etc. Are they all so brainwashed they can't speak?

And what of the real plane then...where is it? What about the crew that flew the drone. Do you honestly think they willingly killed innocent people and attacked their own government to make GWB look like a hero?

If you take a step back, it's preposterous.

xtratabasco wrote:other than that I settle for some pictures of seats, luggage, tires, engines, dead people, wings, tail sections.


I will keep searching for you, but here are the dead people you requested. These are actual exhibits used in the USA v/s Moussaoui trial. I wont post the pics but give you the links as they are rather gruesome, but if you want dead Pentagon bodies, here ya go.

WARNING. Actual pictures of 9/11 victims. Do not click if sqeamish.
Link #1
Link #2
Link #3
Link #4

Hope your happy now.

Think about this Xtra. Substituting a missile for the plane would have made the attack much more complicated, involved more technicians with insider knowledge, and not provided any direct benefit to the plotters.

The "no plane" theories don't make sense -- why would they bother to substitute? why risk being caught in the act, if someone got a clear photo? Why not just remote control a 757 into the empty part of the building?
The area around the Pentagon is densely populated, and a clear photo showing something other than the 757 would compromise the entire operation and expose the hoax before it got started!



I never said it was a hoax,

I said I want to see proof that a 757 hit the pentagon and so far I have not scene any and none of the rewards so far have not been given out because nobody has shown any proof.

as to the dead bodies there was over 70 employees in the building who died and guess where they worked? in the accounting dept. for the war where all the billions have gone missing.


thanks for trying


but me and 43% of the US citizens are gonna still be wanting to see the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon and vaporized.
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Postby DaGip on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:12 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:Yep, and I'm a member of Skull and Bones Society. :lol:


Maybe we should vote for you for Prez :lol:
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Postby heavycola on Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:12 am

Xtra - this thread is full of pictures of 757 components from the Pentagon crash site.

Plase, as DM asked, post some pictures of Global Hawk parts, or drone parts, from the crash site.


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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:59 am

heavycola wrote:Xtra - this thread is full of pictures of 757 components from the Pentagon crash site.

Plase, as DM asked, post some pictures of Global Hawk parts, or drone parts, from the crash site.


K tks.



well the other 18 that voted want to see something other than 10 pounds of planted scraps.

thats why this issue wont die. :D
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Postby DaGip on Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:03 am

heavycola wrote:Xtra - this thread is full of pictures of 757 components from the Pentagon crash site.

Plase, as DM asked, post some pictures of Global Hawk parts, or drone parts, from the crash site.


K tks.


I heard that both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld share a rug together...did anyone look under it?
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Postby heavycola on Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:31 am

xtratabasco wrote:
heavycola wrote:Xtra - this thread is full of pictures of 757 components from the Pentagon crash site.

Plase, as DM asked, post some pictures of Global Hawk parts, or drone parts, from the crash site.


K tks.



well the other 18 that voted want to see something other than 10 pounds of planted scraps.

thats why this issue wont die. :D


So... the aircraft parts you said were from a Global Hawk were actually planted by the government? Why would they plant global hawk parts and then claim a 757 hit the building? ZOMG this is bigger then we thought!!1!1!!
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:50 pm

xtratabasco wrote:show us the pics....


thats all we ask.






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but you cant or wont :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Backglass on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:50 pm

heavycola wrote:So... the aircraft parts you said were from a Global Hawk were actually planted by the government? Why would they plant global hawk parts and then claim a 757 hit the building? ZOMG this is bigger then we thought!!1!1!!


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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:51 pm

a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:

















now get back to work backglass your dissapointing everyone
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Postby heavycola on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:15 pm

xtratabasco wrote:a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Was it wreckage from a global hawk, like you said? or was it planted 757 wreckage, like you said?
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:24 pm

heavycola wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Was it wreckage from a global hawk, like you said? or was it planted 757 wreckage, like you said?



Its from I said I wanted to see pictures of the 757 that hit the pentagon and then vaporized like this governemnt said, not a scrap of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby heavycola on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:30 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
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xtratabasco wrote:a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Was it wreckage from a global hawk, like you said? or was it planted 757 wreckage, like you said?



Its from I said I wanted to see pictures of the 757 that hit the pentagon and then vaporized like this governemnt said, not a scrap of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:


You're getting confused, little man. And all the smilies in the world won't make a shred of difference :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:33 pm

Jimmy Walter has since upd the reward to a million dollars but nobody can do it. :cry:






From the December 2004 Idaho Observer:

$100,000 reward: Prove "official" 9/11 story

One man of means' attempt to set the record straight

The details are still being worked out but you can tell anyone who believes boxcutter-wielding Arabs took down the Twin Towers, took out the Pentagon and crashed a plane over Pennsylvania that there's $100,000 waiting for them if they can support with facts and evidence the government explanation of 9/11. It's a good deal for 9/11 truth seekers because we know California millionaire Jimmie Walter will be able to keep his money; if publicized correctly it will be a bad deal for the Bush administration because enough people with credentials who believe the official will try, unsuccessfully to prove the Bush administration's "magic Arab" theory.




common heavy, backglass, DM go get you some money. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby heavycola on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:37 pm

heavycola wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Was it wreckage from a global hawk, like you said? or was it planted 757 wreckage, like you said?


I am done playing tardball for the night. Try and answer the question sometime in the next 12 hours. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:38 pm

heavycola wrote:
heavycola wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:a 1 pound scrap of tin dont a757 make. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Was it wreckage from a global hawk, like you said? or was it planted 757 wreckage, like you said?


I am done playing tardball for the night. Try and answer the question sometime in the next 12 hours. :lol: :lol: :lol:



I just want to see pics of the 757 that hit the pentagon, not a scrap of tin.


now, go get that money. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:41 pm

No. We just want to see pics of the missile/drone that hit the pentagon, not a scrap of tin and a never ending tide or unevidenced speculation.


now, go get that evidence. :lol: :lol:
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Postby soundout9 on Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:15 pm

That was from the day of 9/11 where people didnt have a clue what happened. that reported had to be miles away at closest cause they evacuated people away that far
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Postby xtratabasco on Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:13 pm

soundout9 wrote:That was from the day of 9/11 where people didnt have a clue what happened. that reported had to be miles away at closest cause they evacuated people away that far




ok, but this video shows close up pictures and video tape from a helecopter and show no pictures of the 757 either. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22


go like backglass and others out in the internet land and bring us pictures of the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon. it will end this dicussion and you can be a rich. :D :D


but no pictures of scraps of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Titanic on Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:18 am

xtratabasco wrote:
soundout9 wrote:That was from the day of 9/11 where people didnt have a clue what happened. that reported had to be miles away at closest cause they evacuated people away that far




ok, but this video shows close up pictures and video tape from a helecopter and show no pictures of the 757 either. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22


go like backglass and others out in the internet land and bring us pictures of the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon. it will end this dicussion and you can be a rich. :D :D


but no pictures of scraps of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Show us pictures and proof that a missile or drone smashed into the pentagon.
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Postby heavycola on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:26 am

xtratabasco wrote:
soundout9 wrote:That was from the day of 9/11 where people didnt have a clue what happened. that reported had to be miles away at closest cause they evacuated people away that far




ok, but this video shows close up pictures and video tape from a helecopter and show no pictures of the 757 either. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22


go like backglass and others out in the internet land and bring us pictures of the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon. it will end this dicussion and you can be a rich. :D :D


but no pictures of scraps of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Xtra, answer this, and try to do it without quoting yourself. What do you think happens to an aluminium, fully-laden plane that crashes into a kevlar-reinforced building at 400mph? Why do you think there would be much more than scraps left over? I am interested. Does it leave a big plane-shaped hole in the wall, like batman, and just skid to a stop?

I was waiting for an answer as to whether those scraps were from a global hawk, as you said, or were 757 parts planted by the givernment, as you said. But i expect I will be waiting a long time for answers to either question.
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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:59 am

heavycola wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
soundout9 wrote:That was from the day of 9/11 where people didnt have a clue what happened. that reported had to be miles away at closest cause they evacuated people away that far




ok, but this video shows close up pictures and video tape from a helecopter and show no pictures of the 757 either. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22


go like backglass and others out in the internet land and bring us pictures of the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon. it will end this dicussion and you can be a rich. :D :D


but no pictures of scraps of tin. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Xtra, answer this, and try to do it without quoting yourself. What do you think happens to an aluminium, fully-laden plane that crashes into a kevlar-reinforced building at 400mph? Why do you think there would be much more than scraps left over? I am interested. Does it leave a big plane-shaped hole in the wall, like batman, and just skid to a stop?

I was waiting for an answer as to whether those scraps were from a global hawk, as you said, or were 757 parts planted by the givernment, as you said. But i expect I will be waiting a long time for answers to either question.


Well, according to the IBM super computer, the wings go STRAIGHT through the building! But, however, it was mentioned earlier in the forum, that the wings FOLDED up before entering the building...I am sooo confused! :roll:
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