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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:50 pm
by Neoteny
saxitoxin wrote:When all the conspiracy theories have been debunked ...

Neoteny wrote:There is no equal to the classiness of people driven to defend a republican accused of sexual assault.

It's a fuckin' foie gras of the most callous monsters in this country.

Just freaking scrumptious slime.


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I mean, yeah. Show me the lie.

I'm just saying. It's like clockwork. There's no crime too low for a Republican to burn his nikes over in simpering obsequience.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:56 pm
by GabonX
The issue is that in most of these cases that leftoids like to huff and puff over:

Neoteny wrote:There's no crime



When there is a crime leftoids usually don't want to prosecute because of "social justice" as opposed to actual justice.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:04 pm
by Neoteny
GabonX wrote:The issue is that in most of these cases that leftoids like to huff and puff over:

Neoteny wrote:There's no crime



When there is a crime leftoids usually don't want to prosecute because of "social justice" as opposed to actual justice.


Yeah, yeah, anytime a Republican does something, it's not a crime. We've heard it a million times. Funny how that's always the case. Every time. Keep making those boots sparkle, chud.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:12 pm
by saxitoxin
Neoteny wrote:I'm just saying. It's like clockwork. There's no crime too low for a Republican ...


indeed

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:23 pm
by Neoteny
Put them both against the wall. Who's next?

Edit: unless your point is about all the rich people supporting them, in which case, bourgeois gonna bourgeois. But I'm not talking about rich people supporting politicians. I'm talking about chuds like you and Gabon. They are currying favor. What's your excuse?

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:41 pm
by saxitoxin
Neoteny wrote:Put them both against the wall. Who's next?

Edit: unless your point is about all the rich people supporting them, in which case, bourgeois gonna bourgeois. But I'm not talking about rich people supporting politicians. I'm talking about chuds like you and Gabon. They are currying favor. What's your excuse?


I didn't understand a word of this.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:54 pm
by GabonX
Truth, freedom, beauty and justice.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:55 pm
by saxitoxin
Neoteny wrote:Put them both against the wall. Who's next?

Edit: unless your point is about all the rich people supporting them, in which case, bourgeois gonna bourgeois. But I'm not talking about rich people supporting politicians. I'm talking about chuds like you and Gabon. They are currying favor. What's your excuse?


I don't need an excuse because I don't actually care if he did it or not. Only Hillary supporters feigning indignation need an excuse.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:09 pm
by Neoteny
GabonX wrote:Truth, freedom, beauty and justice.


Tfw 70% of your political party is ineligible for Supreme Court membership.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:10 pm
by GabonX
I'm a moderate independent, thank you very much.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:20 pm
by saxitoxin
I'm a Trumpist. My support of the GOP ends January 17, 2025.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:30 pm
by Neoteny
Oh lol.

Glad we got that all cleared up, y'all.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:33 pm
by GabonX
Is extreme centrist a thing?

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:35 pm
by Neoteny
Radical centrism is a thing.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:48 pm
by karel
this story has more holes then swiss cheese

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:26 pm
by saxitoxin
karel wrote:this story has more holes then swiss cheese


Yes, to recap ...

    (a) Democratic Party donor undergoing professional mental health treatment accuses judge of shoving her and touching her clothes when they were at a high school party 35 years ago.
    (b) Tells Senator Dianne Feinstein who then withholds said information from both law enforcement and her own committee for two months; finally springs it a few days before a confirmation vote is set.
    (c) The only person identified as a witness to the alleged shove by the accuser claims it never happened, as does the accused judge himself.
    (d) Despite being a supposedly wild party, not a single other living person has been found who was present at it despite two months of searching.

This is as lucid as something you'd see on THC's Ancient Aliens or UFOs: The Truth the Government is Hiding. The Amazon Washington Post is basically the new alien conspiracy documentary. Bezos must not be letting the tabloid writers at the WaPo take bathroom breaks just like his warehouse workers.

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:03 am
by mookiemcgee
saxitoxin wrote:I'm a Russian*. My support of the GOP ends January 17, 2025.


*Fixed

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:14 am
by thegreekdog
saxitoxin wrote:
karel wrote:this story has more holes then swiss cheese


Yes, to recap ...

    (a) Democratic Party donor undergoing professional mental health treatment accuses judge of shoving her and touching her clothes when they were at a high school party 35 years ago.
    (b) Tells Senator Dianne Feinstein who then withholds said information from both law enforcement and her own committee for two months; finally springs it a few days before a confirmation vote is set.
    (c) The only person identified as a witness to the alleged shove by the accuser claims it never happened, as does the accused judge himself.
    (d) Despite being a supposedly wild party, not a single other living person has been found who was present at it despite two months of searching.

This is as lucid as something you'd see on THC's Ancient Aliens or UFOs: The Truth the Government is Hiding. The Amazon Washington Post is basically the new alien conspiracy documentary. Bezos must not be letting the tabloid writers at the WaPo take bathroom breaks just like his warehouse workers.

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I mean, I don't disagree with you but facts are virtually irrelevant at this point. The Democrats did a great job at politics with this one and lost a whole lot of virtue in the process. They likely held on to these accusations with the intent of releasing them after the hearings with the intent of not having new hearings with the intent of potentially winning the Senate in the mid-term elections potentially not confirming Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court upon Justice Kennedy's retirement. If you're scoring at home:

Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination get (a) no Kavanaugh; (b) a 1 in 3 chance of no Trump nominee. Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination also lose all credibility and standing on the MeToo Movement (Bill Clinton notwithstanding). I'd say that's a good trade for Democrats given the realistic alternative for people whose number one concern is the MeToo Movement is the Republican party.

spurgistan wrote: because they do this thing called "fact-checking". Reddit isn't literature.


I recall completely different circumstances - namely that the Washington Post realized it was being duped when an O'Keefe dude ran up to a car. There is no fact-checking going on with the Kavanaugh accusation and to pretend otherwise is just weird (and, like I keep typing, irrelevant). The damage has been done; it cannot be undone. Enough people will believe an accuser without evidence in a non-criminal trial that perceived popular opinion will affect Republicans' support of Kavanaugh negatively.

If I was in the White House, I would recommend pulling Kavanaugh, nominating the Notre Dame law school professor (who is WAY more conservative and WAY more likely to overturn Roe v. Wade and a woman) and take your chances with the mid-terms.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:42 am
by Neoteny
thegreekdog wrote:The Democrats did a great job at politics with this one and lost a whole lot of virtue in the process.


lol

thegreekdog wrote:Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination get (a) no Kavanaugh; (b) a 1 in 3 chance of no Trump nominee. Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination also lose all credibility and standing on the MeToo Movement (Bill Clinton notwithstanding). I'd say that's a good trade for Democrats given the realistic alternative for people whose number one concern is the MeToo Movement is the Republican party.


Could you clarify this for me? Specifically your metoo analysis.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:54 am
by thegreekdog
Neoteny wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:The Democrats did a great job at politics with this one and lost a whole lot of virtue in the process.


lol

thegreekdog wrote:Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination get (a) no Kavanaugh; (b) a 1 in 3 chance of no Trump nominee. Democrats opposing the Kavanaugh nomination also lose all credibility and standing on the MeToo Movement (Bill Clinton notwithstanding). I'd say that's a good trade for Democrats given the realistic alternative for people whose number one concern is the MeToo Movement is the Republican party.


Could you clarify this for me? Specifically your metoo analysis.


They used a woman's pain and suffering for political gain. If this was about the MeToo Movement, the allegation would have been made public as soon as Senator Feinstien knew about it. Instead it was about politics. I suspect most of the ostensible MeToo Movement supporters think this is a fine tradeoff to have a 1 in 3 chance at getting a win against the hated Trump. Way less important, but still worth mentioning - Bill Clinton, Keith Ellison. When you give up virtue in favor of politics you lose the ability to score points. It's a bad look.

Oh and there have been important new developments:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics ... index.html

Just in case GabonX and saxitoxin were doubters... Julia Louis Dreyfus has signed a petition (she also attended this high school).

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:05 am
by Neoteny
Gotcha.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:47 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
sym wrote:She has also taken a polygraph.


:roll:

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:22 pm
by GabonX
I wouldn't call a celebrity signing a petition a major development but hey.

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:25 pm
by thegreekdog
spurgistan wrote:OK. I posted a source of one of the very few times a woman can be credibly proven as making up a sexual assault claim, and it was O'Keefe stooges trying to frame the Washington Post as printing anything. A literal organized effort to fake a sexual assault claim (sure, they were organized by idiots, but they were darlings of the Republican Party) and the WaPo wouldn't run it, because they do this thing called "fact-checking". Reddit isn't literature.


Also...

http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/18/leg ... ing-trump/

Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:26 pm
by thegreekdog
GabonX wrote:I wouldn't call a celebrity signing a petition a major development but hey.


But Gabby... it's CNN! Serious news! You know who else signed the petition? A woman who graduated the high school in 2003.