what,me worry? wrote:White supremacists should crack down on the militant arm and those who turn their ideology into a criminal entity
You don't think the existence of white supremacy itself is an issue that needs addressing?
Get off your high horse you vacuous minded parasite. Everything you write is how China and the Chinese are superior to everyone else. And yet for some reason, you don't want to be there. Yeah I guess we're more tolerant of lady boys eh.
You are indeed a shining beacon of British tolerance and plurality.
Are you completely devoid of any coherent argument against me, or do you get your answers from fortune cookies?
what,me worry? wrote:We as a society are free to discuss and ridicule these people but we must tolerate them as this is the only way we as a society can grow
At one point, religions and politicsl ideologies were thought crimes
It's not like there's a binary choice between 'lock people up for thinking things you don't like' or 'let everyone say and think what they want without making any attempt to engage with them'.
what,me worry? wrote:We as a society are free to discuss and ridicule these people but we must tolerate them as this is the only way we as a society can grow
At one point, religions and politicsl ideologies were thought crimes
It's not like there's a binary choice between 'lock people up for thinking things you don't like' or 'let everyone say and think what they want without making any attempt to engage with them'.
We must let people think what they want for all of today's accepted ideas were once blasphomey and witch craft
Today's unpopular ideas may be useful tools of tomorrow
For example, facism may have a helpful role in the future
what,me worry? wrote: facism may have a helpful role in the future
it's not like he endorses the Nazi-Ideals or anything..
Ideologies are not based on morality
Political ideas can be implemented as a force of "good" depending on the situation
Ideology is a tool and can be presented in different forms which can make it useful or harmful. The real question is, "good" for whom and "bad" for whom
What was good for America at the end of World War 2 was bad for Japanese Imperialism
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jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
Fair enough but, it's far from a legitimate democratic government
When Putin can re-elect himself freely, assassinate his competition, and restructure the power of government at will, it becomes totalitarian with communist structuring
what,me worry? wrote:We as a society are free to discuss and ridicule these people but we must tolerate them as this is the only way we as a society can grow
At one point, religions and politicsl ideologies were thought crimes
It's not like there's a binary choice between 'lock people up for thinking things you don't like' or 'let everyone say and think what they want without making any attempt to engage with them'.
We must let people think what they want for all of today's accepted ideas were once blasphomey and witch craft
Today's unpopular ideas may be useful tools of tomorrow
For example, facism may have a helpful role in the future
you can't let people think absolutely what they want, if they think things that hurt or are incompatible with the society they live in. Ideas lead to action and certain actions are reprehensible. If you start doing some hate speach propaganda you are a nuisance to the society you're in and you can be punished.
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
Fair enough but, it's far from a legitimate democratic government
When Putin can re-elect himself freely, assassinate his competition, and restructure the power of government at will, it becomes totalitarian with communist structuring
so.... antidemocratic = communism? like fascism is not antidemocratic or something? Because Putin is very far from haing communist ideas and policies. Can you stop being such a moron, or it's too much to ask?
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
Fair enough but, it's far from a legitimate democratic government
When Putin can re-elect himself freely, assassinate his competition, and restructure the power of government at will, it becomes totalitarian with communist structuring
so.... antidemocratic = communism? like fascism is not antidemocratic or something? Because Putin is very far from haing communist ideas and policies. Can you stop being such a moron, or it's too much to ask?
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
They may have ditched a communist economy, but it's still the same gang running the show. Now they no longer even have to pretend to be egalitarian, they can pad their pockets openly now. Putin is quite open about being a retired KGB agent, but an enormous number of powerful people in the government and in business world are also retired KGB agents, or at least former paid informants of the KGB. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say the communists still run the show, even if they've adopted capitalist economics.
“Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” ― Voltaire
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
They may have ditched a communist economy, but it's still the same gang running the show. Now they no longer even have to pretend to be egalitarian, they can pad their pockets openly now. Putin is quite open about being a retired KGB agent, but an enormous number of powerful people in the government and in business world are also retired KGB agents, or at least former paid informants of the KGB. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say the communists still run the show, even if they've adopted capitalist economics.
Agreed
Hard to go from a communist infrastructure and exchange it for a so-called politically democratic government with a new infrastructure
There is a strong rule of the intelligence community and mobsters
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
They may have ditched a communist economy, but it's still the same gang running the show. Now they no longer even have to pretend to be egalitarian, they can pad their pockets openly now. Putin is quite open about being a retired KGB agent, but an enormous number of powerful people in the government and in business world are also retired KGB agents, or at least former paid informants of the KGB. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say the communists still run the show, even if they've adopted capitalist economics.
What about all the east European countries that that were incorporated into the communist bloc, are you saying Poland, Hungary and others haven't moved on from communism. Is east Germany still ran by the stasi?
The west is now more communist/Marxist than Russia now.
what,me worry? wrote:Nothing wrong with being xenophobic to Japanese in world war 2
Sigh. You're probably one of those people who gets out of their chair if an ethnic Chinese person sits next to them on the subway, because 'coronavirus'.
Posted today in the news lol
Didn't know you wrote for CNN
"What's spreading faster than coronavirus in the US? Racist assaults and ignorant attacks against Asians"
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
They may have ditched a communist economy, but it's still the same gang running the show. Now they no longer even have to pretend to be egalitarian, they can pad their pockets openly now. Putin is quite open about being a retired KGB agent, but an enormous number of powerful people in the government and in business world are also retired KGB agents, or at least former paid informants of the KGB. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say the communists still run the show, even if they've adopted capitalist economics.
What about all the east European countries that that were incorporated into the communist bloc, are you saying Poland, Hungary and others haven't moved on from communism. Is east Germany still ran by the stasi?
The west is now more communist/Marxist than Russia now.
I was talking specifically about Russia, not about other nations that were once in its orbit. Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, etc. have obviously gone in various different directions. For that matter, so have most of the former Soviet republics. The only ones that I would say are following the Russian system are Byelorussia and Uzbekistan.
The west, however, certainly isn't Marxist or anything near it. Marxism both as a political movement and as an economic theory is completely dead in the water.
“Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” ― Voltaire
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
Fair enough but, it's far from a legitimate democratic government
When Putin can re-elect himself freely, assassinate his competition, and restructure the power of government at will, it becomes totalitarian with communist structuring
so.... antidemocratic = communism? like fascism is not antidemocratic or something? Because Putin is very far from haing communist ideas and policies. Can you stop being such a moron, or it's too much to ask?
Anyone who disagrees with you will always be a moron
this is not about agreeing or disagreeing... this is about facts. You seem to be confused and think that all dictatorships are communist.... it's a fact that it's not the case. These are not my personal convictions, and this is not even debatable. It's not even debatable wether or not Putin's regime is communist or not... the country has moved quite a lot since Gorbatchev and the Perestroika in 1991. Now if what you are saying that Putin's regime is a dictatorship in disguise, then we can agree on this. It just has nothing to do with communism.
jonesthecurl wrote:Um, Russia stopped being communist some while ago...
Fair enough but, it's far from a legitimate democratic government
When Putin can re-elect himself freely, assassinate his competition, and restructure the power of government at will, it becomes totalitarian with communist structuring
so.... antidemocratic = communism? like fascism is not antidemocratic or something? Because Putin is very far from haing communist ideas and policies. Can you stop being such a moron, or it's too much to ask?
Anyone who disagrees with you will always be a moron
this is not about agreeing or disagreeing... this is about facts. You seem to be confused and think that all dictatorships are communist.... it's a fact that it's not the case. These are not my personal convictions, and this is not even debatable. It's not even debatable wether or not Putin's regime is communist or not... the country has moved quite a lot since Gorbatchev and the Perestroika in 1991. Now if what you are saying that Putin's regime is a dictatorship in disguise, then we can agree on this. It just has nothing to do with communism.
You've missed and misrepresented my point completely
If you were to take the time to read and come correctly, you may get a real response from me