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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:29 pm
by Dmunster
Do they have any Chavs in Israel?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:35 pm
by Norse
Well, each to their own.

BUT, what any intelligent person knows, is that capitalism, market-liberalism and socialism will always be flawed

How? Because you add into the equation human nature.

Human nature will corrupt any perfect plan, so my way of thinking is instead of worrying about these political ideaologies and systems, lets just root out the biggest benefactors of fraud and corruption, create a system whereby this cannot happen, then allow a free regulated market, that in essence rewards hard work, but cushions decent people in times of crisis.

Anyone who chooses the benefits system as a lifestyle choice will be sterilised.

Problem solved!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:37 pm
by Arbustos
Norse wrote:Well, each to their own.

BUT, what any intelligent person knows, is that capitalism, market-liberalism and socialism will always be flawed

How? Because you add into the equation human nature.

Human nature will corrupt any perfect plan, so my way of thinking is instead of worrying about these political ideaologies and systems, lets just root out the biggest benefactors of fraud and corruption, create a system whereby this cannot happen, then allow a free regulated market, that in essence rewards hard work, but cushions decent people in times of crisis.

Anyone who chooses the benefits system as a lifestyle choice will be sterilised.

Problem solved!


Yeah, but that's not what we were talking about :wink:

In a perfect world, human nature is no longer a variable.

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:38 pm
by mandalorian2298
Norse wrote:
Simonov wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment. The only mistake its inventors made was thinking that any roup of people will ever be perfect or content.


=D>


My opinion of both of you has plummeted dramatically.

Just because you may be poor, doesnt mean you have to drag the rest of the world down with you.


It's not even about money. Communism is belief that your life isn't your own reponsibility but instead responsibility of society. Thus, you don't have to work hard on bettering yourself and earning the things you want. Instead you are dicuraged from bettering yourself because a) all the man are eaqual (according to Communism.) and b) you are prevented from benefiting from working more or better.

As for this "better beings" who, according to the communists, could make it work, they already exist and a called cows.

N.B. Lest we lose sight of the theme, I think that weewer's professor (and the people who have put him on that post) should seek professional help.

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:42 pm
by Norse
mandalorian2298 wrote:
a) all the man are eaqual (according to Communism.) and b) you are prevented from benefiting from working more or better.



All men are equal eh? like mao was an equal to the hundreds of thousands of his own people he slaughtered, in the name of 'class war'

And to (b), so if I work my ass of night and day, I benefit the same as someone who is a lazy, slovenly incompetent dreg?

sounds like a really practical system.

:roll:

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:46 pm
by Arbustos
Norse wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
a) all the man are eaqual (according to Communism.) and b) you are prevented from benefiting from working more or better.



All men are equal eh? like mao was an equal to the hundreds of thousands of his own people he slaughtered, in the name of 'class war'

And to (b), so if I work my ass of night and day, I benefit the same as someone who is a lazy, slovenly incompetent dreg?

sounds like a really practical system.

:roll:


That's just it, it isn't practical. But IN A PERFECT WORLD, no one would ever try to take advantage of the system, and everyone would take care of each other in a big display of human coexistence.

And equating Mao with Marxist communism might get you into some trouble in the wrong parts of town :wink:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:46 pm
by AtomicSlug
dunno where my original post went, but look it up on wickipedia to find the truth, and not the propaganda. And take the time to follow the links. Then stfu.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:47 pm
by Arbustos
AtomicSlug wrote:dunno where my original post went, but look it up on wickipedia to find the truth, and not the propaganda.


Just a hint: If you don't want to be laughed off the face of the internet, don't use Wikipedia as your definitive source of truth.

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:49 pm
by Norse
Arbustos wrote:
And equating Mao with Marxist communism might get you into some trouble in the wrong parts of town :wink:


WTF!?!!

Is noam chomsky going to come round and bore me to death? or stab me with his hook-nose?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:51 pm
by AtomicSlug
Arbustos wrote:
AtomicSlug wrote:dunno where my original post went, but look it up on wickipedia to find the truth, and not the propaganda.


Just a hint: If you don't want to be laughed off the face of the internet, don't use Wikipedia as your definitive source of truth.


Two points:

1) Wickipedia has been recognized by experts to be just as good as the Encyclopedia Britannica.
2) What reference do u use? Mein Kampf? lol

PS get a life - ummm, a real one!

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:51 pm
by mandalorian2298
Arbustos wrote:
Norse wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
a) all the man are eaqual (according to Communism.) and b) you are prevented from benefiting from working more or better.



All men are equal eh? like mao was an equal to the hundreds of thousands of his own people he slaughtered, in the name of 'class war'

And to (b), so if I work my ass of night and day, I benefit the same as someone who is a lazy, slovenly incompetent dreg?

sounds like a really practical system.

:roll:


That's just it, it isn't practical. But IN A PERFECT WORLD, no one would ever try to take advantage of the system, and everyone would take care of each other in a big display of human coexistence.

And equating Mao with Marxist communism might get you into some trouble in the wrong parts of town :wink:


a)Living your life as you choose isn't 'taking advantage of the system'. It is rezognizing that system is worthless and you have no need to play along.

b) For communism to work, the would have to be no humans on the PERFECT WORLD. Because humans are individuals.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:56 pm
by Arbustos
:roll: How many times has "get a life" been used as an insult on the net? It gets tiring. And I've seen some blatantly wrong things on Wikipedia that weren't fixed for a pretty long time.

:?

Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:05 pm
by Norse
Arbustos wrote:
Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


Joke?!??

wow....*whoosh* right over my head.

hehe, what was funniest about it is the thought of a violent communist gang, like cripps, shootin up rival commie gangs.....

Bad man marx and the pinko crew, in da hood.


:lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:10 pm
by Arbustos
Norse wrote:
Arbustos wrote:
Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


Joke?!??

wow....*whoosh* right over my head.

hehe, what was funniest about it is the thought of a violent communist gang, like cripps, shootin up rival commie gangs.....

Bad man marx and the pinko crew, in da hood.


:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was the general gist of it... I really was thinking of Trotsky having a gang war with Stalin :lol:

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:22 pm
by cleveridea
Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment.


:roll:

I think tens of millions of innocent slaughtered folks of the 20th century saw first-hand how "perfect" it could be.

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:24 pm
by Arbustos
cleveridea wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment.


:roll:

I think about 100 million innocent slaughtered folks of the 20th century saw first-hand how "perfect" it could be.


Jesus Christ, he's not saying it's perfect now or has ever been perfect, but that he would like it in a perfect world. How can you misunderstand that? Or did you just not care as long as you made your point? :roll:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:46 pm
by mandalorian2298
Arbustos wrote:mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


An argument on CC has ended in an agreement?! :-s

Quick, insult me or the whole site might crash! :shock:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:48 pm
by Arbustos
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Arbustos wrote:mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


An argument on CC has ended in an agreement?! :-s

Quick, insult me or the whole site might crash! :shock:


Uh, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries?

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:28 pm
by mandalorian2298
Arbustos wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Arbustos wrote:mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


An argument on CC has ended in an agreement?! :-s

Quick, insult me or the whole site might crash! :shock:


Uh, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries?


Whew. That was a close call. :?

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:36 pm
by Balsiefen
Arbustos wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment.


:roll:

I think about 100 million innocent slaughtered folks of the 20th century saw first-hand how "perfect" it could be.


Jesus Christ, he's not saying it's perfect now or has ever been perfect, but that he would like it in a perfect world. How can you misunderstand that? Or did you just not care as long as you made your point? :roll:


Actually, a world in which comunism worked wouldn't be a very nice one, a bit stepford wives as everyone would have to be exactly the same as each other and never wanting more out of life. It would be pretty boring.

Anyway, we are getting away from the main point of this thread! That is; Flaming weever for being a Nazi c*nt

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:30 pm
by Arbustos
Balsiefen wrote:
Arbustos wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment.


:roll:

I think about 100 million innocent slaughtered folks of the 20th century saw first-hand how "perfect" it could be.


Jesus Christ, he's not saying it's perfect now or has ever been perfect, but that he would like it in a perfect world. How can you misunderstand that? Or did you just not care as long as you made your point? :roll:


Actually, a world in which comunism worked wouldn't be a very nice one, a bit stepford wives as everyone would have to be exactly the same as each other and never wanting more out of life. It would be pretty boring.

Anyway, we are getting away from the main point of this thread! That is; Flaming weever for being a Nazi c*nt


I know, that's just what he would like. And don't try to stop our systematic hijack of this thread :evil:

Re: jews celebrat hanukkah because it was when they massacer

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:32 pm
by mandalorian2298
Arbustos wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
Arbustos wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
weever wrote:Anyway, whats wrong with inventing communism? In a perfect world it would work bettter than any other form of gouvernment.


:roll:

I think about 100 million innocent slaughtered folks of the 20th century saw first-hand how "perfect" it could be.


Jesus Christ, he's not saying it's perfect now or has ever been perfect, but that he would like it in a perfect world. How can you misunderstand that? Or did you just not care as long as you made your point? :roll:


Actually, a world in which comunism worked wouldn't be a very nice one, a bit stepford wives as everyone would have to be exactly the same as each other and never wanting more out of life. It would be pretty boring.

Anyway, we are getting away from the main point of this thread! That is; Flaming weever for being a Nazi c*nt


I know, that's just what he would like. And don't try to stop our systematic hijack of this thread :evil:


Which we are paid to preform by MOSAD. :wink:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:35 pm
by AtomicSlug
Arbustos wrote::roll: How many times has "get a life" been used as an insult on the net? It gets tiring. And I've seen some blatantly wrong things on Wikipedia that weren't fixed for a pretty long time.

:?

Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


Maybe you should consider "Get a life" not as an insult, but a suggestion. Then, maybe, when you reach puberty or so, you will understand.

PS if u want 2 take this to flame wars, feel free. I was on the Net b4 u were even a kiss on ur momma's lips!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:37 pm
by Arbustos
AtomicSlug wrote:
Arbustos wrote::roll: How many times has "get a life" been used as an insult on the net? It gets tiring. And I've seen some blatantly wrong things on Wikipedia that weren't fixed for a pretty long time.

:?

Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


Maybe you should consider "Get a life" not as an insult, but a suggestion. Then, maybe, when you reach puberty or so, you will understand.


Oh, and coming back with the ever-popular puberty joke. Please get some new material [-o<

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:41 pm
by AtomicSlug
Arbustos wrote:
AtomicSlug wrote:
Arbustos wrote::roll: How many times has "get a life" been used as an insult on the net? It gets tiring. And I've seen some blatantly wrong things on Wikipedia that weren't fixed for a pretty long time.

:?

Norse, that was a half-assed attempt at a joke. Leave me alone :oops:


mandalorian, I know, that's why a perfect world isn't really perfect. Living as an automaton just so no one suffers doesn't sound inviting.


Maybe you should consider "Get a life" not as an insult, but a suggestion. Then, maybe, when you reach puberty or so, you will understand.


Oh, and coming back with the ever-popular puberty joke. Please get some new material [-o<


Sorry, I forgot that you prolly don't understand big words like Puberty. It's like when you get curly little hairs on your vagina.

Bring it to Flames, I dare u!