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Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:23 pm
by imcjb
Timminz wrote:
imcjb wrote:This wouldn't be an issue if people were not handing out their passwords to others. Obviously, Jeff and others have given their passwords out in the past and now their settings have been changed. Never give your passwords out to anyone. This is a recent MSN conversation I have just had with Jeff and JCKing where they told me about this issue and I pretended to be Head of Security at Norton working with Lack to look into it:


JCKing says:
yes
JCKing says:
he can
JCKing says:
Who is Cameron
JCKing says:
Why
JCKing says:
he's already gained permanent access into Jeff's account
JCKing says:
Jeff had even changed the pw
Cameron says:
Im Head of Security at Norton System works
Cameron says:
Im working with Lackattack on this
JCKing says:
well
JCKing says:
ok
JCKing says:
nice
JCKing says:
Yea
JCKing says:
maxatstuy gained permanent access to Jeff's account
Cameron says:
JCKing, in order to test I need your pw
JCKing says:
ok
JCKing says:
*******
JCKing says:
wat is Cameron testing?
Cameron says: I'm changing your password you noob!

In short, you reap what you sow. If you dont give your password out then you dont get too many problems you cant control.

IMCJB


Haha! That's great! I've always enjoyed MSN convos with [player]JesusReigns[/player]. That's [player]JCKing[/player] for all those who don't know he's a multi.


Personally, I find a bit of social engineering goes a long way. In as much as it's quite irritating for Jeff to have Max manipulate his settings in order to maintain account access it wouldnt have been an issue if he hadnt of provided his password to others which he admitted in the same MSN conversation, in fact JCKing also admitted this as well. In a way I admire Max for this little bit of impertinence.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:31 pm
by Bruceswar
You are missing the point here.... Jeff had a new password that nobody knew... Then this hacker was still able to access it.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:34 pm
by Jeff Hardy
dude, what dont you get?

he hasnt guessed it or anything, hes hacked his way in and no matter how often i change it he has access to the account

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:02 pm
by owenshooter
Bruceswar wrote:You are missing the point here.... Jeff had a new password that nobody knew... Then this hacker was still able to access it.

doesn't negate the activities of the fist person that gave the guilty party his password in the first place... just seems like the litany of offenses are growing...-0

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:36 pm
by imcjb
Personally I think the mods will find the "hacker" hiding behind the grassy knoll. It will be interesting to see when this investigation is complete whether this Oswald hacker guy was just a patsy to misdirect attention elsewhere.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:55 pm
by Bruceswar
owenshooter wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You are missing the point here.... Jeff had a new password that nobody knew... Then this hacker was still able to access it.

doesn't negate the activities of the fist person that gave the guilty party his password in the first place... just seems like the litany of offenses are growing...-0



I am not sure the password was ever leaked, due the fact this person can access this account without knowledge of a new password.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:27 pm
by owenshooter
Bruceswar wrote:I am not sure the password was ever leaked, due the fact this person can access this account without knowledge of a new password.

come on bruce.. the password was given to the now alleged hacker. i don't buy that this one kid is able to hack an account on CC, and can not find any account of it ever happening. people use passwords, period. even benjis_widow found a folder of passwords to screw over benji's old clan... i think someone is trying to deflect attention away from the fact that a member of his clan gave his password to the person that is causing all this trouble... let's all stop playing innocent and just be honest about what is going on...-0

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:28 pm
by Bruceswar
owenshooter wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:I am not sure the password was ever leaked, due the fact this person can access this account without knowledge of a new password.

come on bruce.. the password was given to the now alleged hacker. i don't buy that this one kid is able to hack an account on CC, and can not find any account of it ever happening. people use passwords, period. even benjis_widow found a folder of passwords to screw over benji's old clan... i think someone is trying to deflect attention away from the fact that a member of his clan gave his password to the person that is causing all this trouble... let's all stop playing innocent and just be honest about what is going on...-0



If firefox had your password stored...all it would take was for someone with comp knowledge to break in easy..

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:43 pm
by Kotaro
Bruceswar wrote:
If firefox had your password stored...all it would take was for someone with comp knowledge to break in easy..


..Which would require your Routers Access Ports to accept anyone to access them. Which means, in order to hack someone, either A) your internet is extremely terrible and you're vulnerable to any 5th grader that can use google and knows the workd "hack", or B) Jeff opened himself up to this, making him extremely unintelligent in this situation.

And with how JCKing is just giving out passwords, doesn't seem very unlikely that this isn't fully this "hackers" fault.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:59 pm
by tdans
haha yall hacking is easy and fighting againsy hackers is hard :0 i know :) any way srry bout that Jeff

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:23 pm
by Bruceswar
Kotaro wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
If firefox had your password stored...all it would take was for someone with comp knowledge to break in easy..


..Which would require your Routers Access Ports to accept anyone to access them. Which means, in order to hack someone, either A) your internet is extremely terrible and you're vulnerable to any 5th grader that can use google and knows the workd "hack", or B) Jeff opened himself up to this, making him extremely unintelligent in this situation.

And with how JCKing is just giving out passwords, doesn't seem very unlikely that this isn't fully this "hackers" fault.



Have you read anything? Router ports have very little to do with hacking. I guess you would not know anything about that since you bring up googling it. LOL

BTW what does JCKing have to do with this other than some MSN logs with his name in it. He did not have jeff's password.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:11 pm
by the egg
Have you tried to change the email address? Maybe it keeps sending the new password to an email address that the hacker has access to.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:28 pm
by Bruceswar
the egg wrote:Have you tried to change the email address? Maybe it keeps sending the new password to an email address that the hacker has access to.



yes changed email addy's 2 times as far as I Know...

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:59 am
by Bruceswar
The account is still not safe....

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:33 am
by Fruitcake
imcjb wrote:Personally I think the mods will find the "hacker" hiding behind the grassy knoll. It will be interesting to see when this investigation is complete whether this Oswald hacker guy was just a patsy to misdirect attention elsewhere.


How very apt.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:38 am
by jarrett155
Bruceswar wrote:
Kotaro wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
If firefox had your password stored...all it would take was for someone with comp knowledge to break in easy..


..Which would require your Routers Access Ports to accept anyone to access them. Which means, in order to hack someone, either A) your internet is extremely terrible and you're vulnerable to any 5th grader that can use google and knows the workd "hack", or B) Jeff opened himself up to this, making him extremely unintelligent in this situation.

And with how JCKing is just giving out passwords, doesn't seem very unlikely that this isn't fully this "hackers" fault.



Have you read anything? Router ports have very little to do with hacking. I guess you would not know anything about that since you bring up googling it. LOL

BTW what does JCKing have to do with this other than some MSN logs with his name in it. He did not have jeff's password.


do you know anything about hacking?

haha yall hacking is easy and fighting againsy hackers is hard :0 i know :) any way srry bout that Jeff

i think its the other way round :P

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:13 am
by Fruitcake
One wonders if these words from Rashid haven't proven to be chillingly prescient.

RashidJelzin wrote:Uhm... seriously?
'Cause parasites are all the same... after some time, they come back with 10 more of them (multis).


viewtopic.php?f=239&t=68165&hilit=lanyards&start=30

But then this clan of Touch No Touch does have quite a few members who were in the clan of the member the thread above is all about. Along with one who openly states 'he is my best friend on the site' (that is, of course, if he isn't yet another multi himself).

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:20 am
by kiddicus maximus
wow. if I knew it was going to cause this much of a ruckus I wouldn't have hacked his account and posted stupid things.

sorry Jeff. never happen again.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:49 am
by Jeff Hardy
guys, you dont get it do you
he does not need to know my password as changing it multiple times has proven

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:58 am
by Jeff Hardy
i changed the password on my account before going to bed and overnight he played a game for me


2009-02-15 06:29:18 - Jeff Hardy: its a good think you werent smart enough to double turn, fort all your men to an adjacent territory and try hitting sanctuary before I began my turn
2009-02-15 06:29:52 - Jeff Hardy: because if you had done that, you could have easily kept the game going for another...who knows how long
2009-02-15 06:31:06 - Jeff Hardy: dont worry though bruce, your account is safe...

2009-02-15 10:55:45 - Jeff Hardy: max you tool
2009-02-15 10:55:50 - Jeff Hardy: i told bruce about that
2009-02-15 10:56:39 - Jeff Hardy: its not that he wasnt smart enough more that he isnt sad enough to spend a whole hour just forting around which is what you did


the red is what i didnt write and the blue is what i wrote

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:29 am
by Twill
Alright, so I'm looking into this - a few things though:

Jeff, change your PW, and your email, then PM me when you have done it.

If your account is being "hacked", it's most likely from your side rather than ours, so run a virus scan, update windows and make sure you have a firewall installed. All the basics of course.

I'll keep looking into this, but I have blocked your account from creating new games temporarily, just so nobody dumps all your points ;)

And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.

Twill

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:16 pm
by owenshooter
Que the Darth Vader Music...
Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.

sometimes twill just makes you do a herkie...-0

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:24 pm
by Kotaro
Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.


I lol'd.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:34 pm
by Matt Hardy
Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.

Jeff Hardy wrote:It is true.

Re: hacker [Pending]

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:16 pm
by imcjb
Matt Hardy wrote:
Twill wrote:And imcjb - I'll get to you later. Pretending to be representing the site to get someone's password? If it's true, you'll be lucky if you don't get banned from the site.

Jeff Hardy wrote:It is true.


Actually, I represented Symantec......as Head of Norton Security.