Conquer Club

cena-rules wrote:you are right t-o-m it didnt border on the original

So is the border going to be changed to be like the original because I did not understand what's going to happen exactly?

I think the border should be like the original map.

the border should be like the original map. no gameplay changes are allowed for revamps.
it screws the ongoing games if you change the gameplay.

DiM wrote:the border should be like the original map. no gameplay changes are allowed for revamps.
it screws the ongoing games if you change the gameplay.

weve always changed 4 way borders in revamps . . .

gimil wrote:

DiM wrote:the border should be like the original map. no gameplay changes are allowed for revamps.
it screws the ongoing games if you change the gameplay.

weve always changed 4 way borders in revamps . . .

Actually Canada had a 4 way I I put a lake at teh connectino so it visually went away. Indochina had a 4 way, I changed it an no one ever noticed.

WM

if the borders are the same as the old xml then it's ok.
meaning northumberland must not connect to galloway and cumberland must not connect to lothian.
in the revamp cumberland does connect to lothian and that is bad because it screws the gameplay. in the original version you needed to hold northumberland and cumberland to attack both terits over the bridge. now you can leave northumberland with no troops and put a big stack on cumberland. a player used to the old gameplay will naturally leave lothian defenceless as he will be sure it can't be attacked.

so do what wm did on canada or what keyogi did on middle east and find a solution to keep the 4 way but mask it. otherwise there will be problems. a lot of them.

DiM wrote:if the borders are the same as the old xml then it's ok.
meaning northumberland must not connect to galloway and cumberland must not connect to lothian.
in the revamp cumberland does connect to lothian and that is bad because it screws the gameplay. in the original version you needed to hold northumberland and cumberland to attack both terits over the bridge. now you can leave northumberland with no troops and put a big stack on cumberland. a player used to the old gameplay will naturally leave lothian defenceless as he will be sure it can't be attacked.

so do what wm did on canada or what keyogi did on middle east and find a solution to keep the 4 way but mask it. otherwise there will be problems. a lot of them.

I agree with DiM on this one. I don't think it should be a problem to keep the gameplay like the original.

Ruben Cassar wrote:

DiM wrote:if the borders are the same as the old xml then it's ok.
meaning northumberland must not connect to galloway and cumberland must not connect to lothian.
in the revamp cumberland does connect to lothian and that is bad because it screws the gameplay. in the original version you needed to hold northumberland and cumberland to attack both terits over the bridge. now you can leave northumberland with no troops and put a big stack on cumberland. a player used to the old gameplay will naturally leave lothian defenceless as he will be sure it can't be attacked.

so do what wm did on canada or what keyogi did on middle east and find a solution to keep the 4 way but mask it. otherwise there will be problems. a lot of them.

I agree with DiM on this one. I don't think it should be a problem to keep the gameplay like the original.

I think this was suggested but take on of the end pillars of teh wall and put it in the middle. Then move the borders on both sides to meet there. Woudl that work?

WM

The British Isles are probably my favourite map...the new one looks sharp.

gimil wrote:

iancanton wrote:in the map, it appears that cumberland can attack lothian & borders. the xml confirms this. this is a change in gameplay from the original british isles map, so i think it isn't intentional. perhaps u can redraw the cumberland-northumberland border to meet the one between dumfries & galloway and lothian & borders as a four-way, then plant a watchtower in hadrian's wall in the middle of the four-way (to block the diagonal attacks) – maybe something that looks like a chess rook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess

in the key and the xml, change gloucester to gloucestershire.

ian.

Ian I beleive changing the border is the simpliest option so I think ill be sticking with it. Ill do the gloc change right now before I forget again

Still disagree with this Gimil...

C.

I like Iancanton's idea. I think it's in the spirit of the old map.


--Andy

Agree. Don't change the gameplay please. Adding that extra border to Cumberland makes it easier to break that northern bonus.

leave it the same please:P Ive never lost on the original

Just to make sure... The proposed map is the one without the flags in the background right? That's too bad as I think it looked better with the flags.

And I agree with DiM and the rest, make the borders /intersects be the same as on the old one.

I know I'm coming to this discussion late and one of these points will probably have been discussed to death but I'm going to make them anyway and then don my hard hat.

1) In the key Glouchester should read Gloucestershire (or at the very least Gloucester). There is no h in it

2) The area marked as Dorset should really be Somerset & Dorset. And if people don't want both names then it should really be Somerset as that is the larger of the two counties.

Right, now where's my hat...

wicked wrote:Agree. Don't change the gameplay please. Adding that extra border to Cumberland makes it easier to break that northern bonus.

Ditto that. One of my favorite maps, messing with the gameplay would not be cool. The revamp looks great though!

Hi guys - not sure if this is the right place - but the spelling of the isle of white should be isle of wight. Small point i know, but if you live in the isle of wight (i dont) I am sure they would like it right!

Gimil, perhaps it's worth removing your 1st draft from the 1st post, and leaving it there as a url instead, so that people don't comment on it thinking it's your final draft

oddballthesecond wrote:Hi guys - not sure if this is the right place - but the spelling of the isle of white should be isle of wight. Small point i know, but if you live in the isle of wight (i dont) I am sure they would like it right!

Thanks for picking that up; and welcome to the forums/foundry
As my post above ^^ indicates, I think you've replied to the earliest image of this development. Don't worry about it though - these map developmnet threads can be confusing and bewildering at first.... you'll get used to it

Gimil stop wasting time and finish this revamp! :p

Ruben Cassar wrote:Gimil stop wasting time and finish this revamp! :p

QFT! I've been waiting to play this revamp for so long now.

MrBenn wrote:Gimil, perhaps it's worth removing your 1st draft from the 1st post, and leaving it there as a url instead, so that people don't comment on it thinking it's your final draft

As far as I can see, the latest version still has an "h" in Gloucester in the key.

Snowman wrote:

MrBenn wrote:Gimil, perhaps it's worth removing your 1st draft from the 1st post, and leaving it there as a url instead, so that people don't comment on it thinking it's your final draft

As far as I can see, the latest version still has an "h" in Gloucester in the key.

He's right ya know...

C.

lol cant help noticing london is too low down to the thames

The name of this map should be changed to Great Britain & Ireland or Ireland & Great Britain.

Ireland is a republic and many people spent many years fighting and have given their lives to be recognized as such.
It still gives a lot of us Irish the needle to be called under the "British Isles" name.

Would just like to point out that I have nothing against Great Britain personally, I lived there for 10 years and enjoyed my time there but would just like my country recognized for what it is and that is a separate state. Thanks.

Ahaha it's separate - oh god my historical/geographical knowledge could use a refresher, I wasn't aware it was a sovereign entity yet :S.