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Whooping Cough comming back??????????

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:51 am
by jay_a2j
Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:10 am
by King Doctor
I'll wager that the government is behind this somehow!

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:15 am
by Snorri1234
wait wtf is this?

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:20 am
by PLAYER57832
jay_a2j wrote:Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.

OH BULL!
The REAL reason whooping cough is coming back is so many arrogant yuppies think their kids should not be vaccinated because of all the idiocy conspiracy theories out there. Ironically, Mexicans and other immigrants are very, very happy to have THEIR kdis vaccinated, because they know what a gift they are.

And, vaccination programs are one area that, thankfully, has up until now escaped this "show your ID" garbage. Diseases don't stop at borders! That's why we spend millions sending vaccines to other countries, even those not bordering us!

Snorri1234 wrote:wait wtf is this?

Whooping cough, along with measles and other illnesses ARE on the resurgeance in the US, but it is hardly due to immigrants (legal or illegal). It is due to supposedly "well-educated" American parents who think their kids are too good for vaccines, becuase there is a 1 in 10,000 (actually less now, but I don't have the most recent figures) chance that the child will suffer a serious consequence) They ignore the fact that measles (for example) has a 1 in 250 fatality rate when contracted! I don't know the exact fatality rate for whooping cough, but its in that neighborhood.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:39 am
by tzor
PLAYER57832 wrote:The REAL reason whooping cough is coming back is so many arrogant yuppies think their kids should not be vaccinated because of all the idiocy conspiracy theories out there. Ironically, Mexicans and other immigrants are very, very happy to have THEIR kdis vaccinated, because they know what a gift they are.


It's more complex than that. According to a recent NPR report, the average compensation for the vaccine is roughly half the cost of the vaccine. As a result it is a loss leader and for many small family doctors it is a loss they simply cannot afford. So parents who want the vaccine have to go to clinics that are far away and only do the vaccine on certain days with long lines as a result.

In Calif., Doctors Struggle To Provide Whooping Cough Vaccine ...

Whooping Cough Epidemic Strikes California

Calif. Vaccination Gap And Whooping Cough

Immigrant families are already using the clinics and are already used to trusting the clinics and the long lines. Soccer moms are not.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:40 am
by AndyDufresne
I heard the Whooping Cough is caused by Whooping Cranes.

We must eliminate the cranes. Even the paper ones---who knows what genetic mysteries even those have.


--Andy

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:55 am
by Queen_Herpes
jay_a2j wrote:Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.


The idiots in my community who do not immunize their kids for fear of a nonexistent possibility of autism is the cause of the resurgence. You can thank Jenny McCarthy for that. ;)

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:29 am
by the.killing.44
Thanks, jay, you make me actually laugh out loud.

The dozen ?'s were a nice touch.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:33 am
by GabonX
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.

OH BULL!

Actually not bull..

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:44 am
by Woodruff
GabonX wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.

OH BULL!

Actually not bull..


It's "bull" to state that as a significant reason for the uptick in whooping cough cases, yes. PLAYER, Queen_Herpes and tzor have pointed out the real reasons and illegal immigrants simply are not one of them.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:50 pm
by b.k. barunt
Numerous studies conducted by really prestigious universities show a plethora of cases of the Red Ass creeping across our borders. The Whooping Cough thing is just a decoy to distract attention from this heinous threat to what's left of our Beaver Cleaver neighborhoods.

You're all doomed.


Honibaz

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:46 pm
by jay_a2j
Woodruff wrote:
GabonX wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Yet another reason we need to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Not that they are responsible for the resurgence of the WC, but many diseases could easily cross the border with them.

OH BULL!

Actually not bull..


It's "bull" to state that as a significant reason for the uptick in whooping cough cases, yes. PLAYER, Queen_Herpes and tzor have pointed out the real reasons and illegal immigrants simply are not one of them.



Re-read the first 10 words of the second sentence. Then, having cleaned all the pie from your face, re-read the rest of the post. :roll:

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:51 pm
by King Doctor
jay_a2j wrote:Re-read the first 10 words of the second sentence. Then, having cleaned all the pie from your face, re-read the rest of the post. :roll:


I'm afraid that re-reading a paranoid conspiracy nutter shouting "Johnny Foreigner probably has more diseases than us! Those brown people never wash!" is barely going to make pie spontaneously fall from the sky.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:01 pm
by jay_a2j
King Doctor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Re-read the first 10 words of the second sentence. Then, having cleaned all the pie from your face, re-read the rest of the post. :roll:


I'm afraid that re-reading a paranoid conspiracy nutter shouting "Johnny Foreigner probably has more diseases than us! Those brown people never wash!" is barely going to make pie spontaneously fall from the sky.



Kid Doctor, let me explain something to you. Why you leftist freaks always want to inject race into every debate is beyond me. But you don't know me, cause if you did you would know that a racist I am not. I don't care what color the people who break US law and cross our borders are, I simply care that they break US law and cross our borders.

You twit.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:15 pm
by jonesthecurl
So you make a thread about Whooping Cough, say that it has nothing to do with immigrants, then say it's a reason to stop immigrants.
Logical.

Immigrants also have nothing to do with the possiblility of being struck by lightning, therefore we would be safe from lightning if we stopped immigrants.

Also, KD said nothing about race or colour, just that immigrants are foreigners...

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:20 pm
by tzor
King Doctor wrote:I'm afraid that re-reading a paranoid conspiracy nutter shouting "Johnny Foreigner probably has more diseases than us! Those brown people never wash!" is barely going to make pie spontaneously fall from the sky.


You know, there were probably people several hundred years ago complaining about those pale people who never wash. And you know what? They were wrong; those people brought in a whole lot of new diseases to the new world. The washing was crap, but any lage influx of people is going to bring in new diseases. And Mexico has a lot of diseases ... DON'T DRINK THE WATER!

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:33 pm
by King Doctor
jay_a2j wrote:Kid Doctor, let me explain something to you. Why you leftist freaks always want to inject race into every debate is beyond me.


I see, you have become angry because you do not like to be made to seem foolish. I am sorry for making you angry. In the future you can avoid this feeling by not being foolish beforehand.

Also, I did not bring race into this debate. I only said the same as you, that these people are not American nationals. That you suddenly believe that this is a debate about race is very telling, as it proves that you had 'race on the brain'.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:36 pm
by jay_a2j
King Doctor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Kid Doctor, let me explain something to you. Why you leftist freaks always want to inject race into every debate is beyond me.


I see, you have become angry because you do not like to be made to seem foolish. I am sorry for making you angry. In the future you can avoid this feeling by not being foolish beforehand.

Also, I did not bring race into this debate. I only said the same as you, that these people are not American nationals. That you suddenly believe that this is a debate about race is very telling, as it proves that you had 'race on the brain'.



No idiot. You said "unwashed brown people" thus implying that the reason I am against illegal immigration is because I have a problem with "brown people". And I'm not angry or mad. Believe me if I was, you would know it.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:38 pm
by jonesthecurl
You're right jay, he did mention brown people first. I musta read it too fast. Sorry, I was wrong there.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:39 pm
by King Doctor
jay_a2j wrote:You said "unwashed brown people"


Are you saying that the people you were referring to as 'illegal immigrants' are not brown?

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:40 pm
by nesterdude
King Doctor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Kid Doctor, let me explain something to you. Why you leftist freaks always want to inject race into every debate is beyond me.


I see, you have become angry because you do not like to be made to seem foolish. I am sorry for making you angry. In the future you can avoid this feeling by not being foolish beforehand.

Also, I did not bring race into this debate. I only said the same as you, that these people are not American nationals. That you suddenly believe that this is a debate about race is very telling, as it proves that you had 'race on the brain'.

Wait a second. I'm so confused anymore (as a white dude).
Now, if we're talking about race, we're talking about color right? The way someone looks?
But if we're talking about country of origin, and now that's bad, well, shit. I'm so confused.

I'd venture to say that you're simply trying expand the pool of an argument that works for you with encompassing national origin as a racial or racist spectrum.

Damn I'm just confused. I'll just give up and let you people with all the fancy ideas and complex perspectives run everything.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:45 pm
by King Doctor
nesterdude wrote:Wait a second. I'm so confused anymore (as a white dude).


Do not worry, a wise man is here to assist you.


nesterdude wrote:Now, if we're talking about race, we're talking about color right? The way someone looks?


No, we're talking about their race.

nesterdude wrote:But if we're talking about country of origin, and now that's bad, well, shit. I'm so confused.


Nobody is saying that talking about country of origin is bad.

nesterdude wrote:I'd venture to say that you're simply trying expand the pool of an argument that works for you with encompassing national origin as a racial or racist spectrum.


That's just because you are deeply confused.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:48 pm
by nesterdude
Nope still confused.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:50 pm
by King Doctor
nesterdude wrote:Nope still confused.


Then you are probably destined to remain in such a state for the remainder of your life. It's a genetic thing.

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:57 pm
by nesterdude
Nature Nurture
/Sighs

Oh well.