Get to Know Ron Paul

Tyr · Post by **Tyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:41 pm

[yay ron paul

go to this link if you dont know who he is

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:43 pm

Who the hell doens't know who ron paul is who visits these forums...

Tyr · Post by **Tyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:45 pm

some people might know who he is but not his veiws on things so here it is

soundout9 · Post by **soundout9** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:54 pm

I ♥ ron paul!

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:07 pm

... somebody kill this thread, please. Can't you guys recycle one of the many previous Ron Paul threads?

... I've nothing against you, it's just that this is the umpteenth Ron Paul thread.

...

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:09 pm

Call me when he wins and actually does what his platform says he'll do. Until then, I'm not gonna jump in to the big "He'll save us all" bandwagon....

...there be snakes in there.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:10 pm

vtmarik wrote:Call me when he wins and actually does what his platform says he'll do. Until then, I'm not gonna jump in to the big "He'll save us all" bandwagon....

...there be snakes in there.

I doubt your gonna get that call... And not because he won't deliver...

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:20 pm

vtmarik wrote:Call me when he wins and actually does what his platform says he'll do. Until then, I'm not gonna jump in to the big "He'll save us all" bandwagon....

...there be snakes in there.

Let's revert back to the goldstandard even though that is stupid even according to the most right-wing republicans with an economic comprehension!

Heimdall · Post by **Heimdall** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:30 pm

Wow, thanks for the link.

I'm actually quite surprise by his views and it's nice to see a candidate with integrity. I'm usually a democrat, but this is actually a republican who could win my vote (if i was American).

Risktaker17 · Post by **Risktaker17** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:31 pm

soundout9 wrote:I ♥ ron paul!

How did you make a heart?

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:33 pm

Guiscard wrote:
vtmarik wrote:Call me when he wins and actually does what his platform says he'll do. Until then, I'm not gonna jump in to the big "He'll save us all" bandwagon....

...there be snakes in there.
I doubt your gonna get that call... And not because he won't deliver...

More likely he won't perform...

... I hear it happens to all guys at least once in their life. I'm told stress is a factor.

Tyr · Post by **Tyr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:44 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
vtmarik wrote:Call me when he wins and actually does what his platform says he'll do. Until then, I'm not gonna jump in to the big "He'll save us all" bandwagon....

...there be snakes in there.

Let's revert back to the goldstandard even though that is stupid even according to the most right-wing republicans with an economic comprehension!

if you watched the clip you would know he doesnt want to go back to a gold standard only to stabalize the valueof the dollar instead of rampant inflation

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:46 pm

You have to vote Ron Paul, he's for the constitution!

soundout9 · Post by **soundout9** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:46 pm

Risktaker17 wrote:
soundout9 wrote:I ♥ ron paul!

How did you make a heart?

It is a secret :roll:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥☺☺☺☺☺☺☺

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:11 pm

You know, the first Ron Paul thread was interesting but I'm starting to hate the guy because of threads like these.

riggable · Post by **riggable** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:13 pm

GOOGLE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:14 pm

CC ♥'s Ron Paul!

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:15 pm

jay_a2j wrote:CC ♥'s Ron Paul!

No, I do not ♥ Ron Paul, please make amends for thinking more than half of us actually care for the old guy.

radiojake · Post by **radiojake** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:40 pm

I watched about 25 minutes of it.

I'm just wondering when it will be before everyone realises that carrying on with our current standard of living is not in any way shape or form even slightly realistic or viable. Irrespective of global warming (whether you believe it or not) - you can't deny the fact that humans take and use more resources than what is being produced by the Earth. It's going to catch up soon, and we're all fucked then. Doesn't matter that your 'economic' policy was conservative and not based on debt or whatever the f*ck, as none of that will mean shit when we're living on a dead planet.

I don't give a f*ck about the economy, and people who care more about this mythological system more than the very very real system of environment are diluded, brainwashed morons. The state of the environment is at critical point and noone ever seems to give a f*ck or do anything about it, and when people do (activists who tree sit etc) they end up getting arrested. That's how fucked up and backward our society is.

Ron Paul ain't gonna change shit, nothing important anyway

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:43 am

radiojake wrote:I don't give a f*ck about the economy

Wow. You do realise you're sort of going to have to give a f*ck about the economy to make any kind of environmental difference... It isn't a mythological construct its the inherent base for our political, international and social systems - the same base from which we will have to act to conserve a hospitable environment... At the end of the day, it is economic factors, not tree-sitting activists, who will make the difference. If we move to a greener economy, if we change the use of natural resources in our industrial systems, then we will have a much greater hope than if we simply all go out and chain ourselves to a tree. It is the big economic decisions that matter. Thats why it is so crucial we reach a worldwide economic consensus on how we're going to move forward without destroying that which is of benefit to us.

radiojake · Post by **radiojake** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:55 am

Guiscard wrote:
radiojake wrote:I don't give a f*ck about the economy

Wow. You do realise you're sort of going to have to give a f*ck about the economy to make any kind of environmental difference... It isn't a mythological construct its the inherent base for our political, international and social systems - the same base from which we will have to act to conserve a hospitable environment... At the end of the day, it is economic factors, not tree-sitting activists, who will make the difference. If we move to a greener economy, if we change the use of natural resources in our industrial systems, then we will have a much greater hope than if we simply all go out and chain ourselves to a tree. It is the big economic decisions that matter. Thats why it is so crucial we reach a worldwide economic consensus on how we're going to move forward without destroying that which is of benefit to us.

Granted.
But under the same guise of 'keeping the economy strong' and 'creating employment', there is going to be a big f*ck off Pulp Mill set up in Tasmania which will only further erradicate Tasmania's old growth forests. The whole system of capitalism is to make as much money as you can, if that means cutting down a forest (then replacing it with a homogenised farm of the same tree in straight lines.. this is not a forrest!) then it'll happen.

My 'i don't give a f*ck about the economy' stance stems from the fact that I truly believe that we are fucked in the near future, once our unsustainable lifestyles catch up with us. Money can't buy fresh water if there isn't any around!

I really don't see how it's possible for this society that we are in today to continue as is. It's based on oppression (of animals and the third world) exploitation (sweat shops) and a stupid mentality of consumerism. Everyone wants more, they want it better, and they want it now. - -It's not going to be able to continue like this

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:02 am

radiojake wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
radiojake wrote:I don't give a f*ck about the economy

Wow. You do realise you're sort of going to have to give a f*ck about the economy to make any kind of environmental difference... It isn't a mythological construct its the inherent base for our political, international and social systems - the same base from which we will have to act to conserve a hospitable environment... At the end of the day, it is economic factors, not tree-sitting activists, who will make the difference. If we move to a greener economy, if we change the use of natural resources in our industrial systems, then we will have a much greater hope than if we simply all go out and chain ourselves to a tree. It is the big economic decisions that matter. Thats why it is so crucial we reach a worldwide economic consensus on how we're going to move forward without destroying that which is of benefit to us.

Granted.
But under the same guise of 'keeping the economy strong' and 'creating employment', there is going to be a big f*ck off Pulp Mill set up in Tasmania which will only further erradicate Tasmania's old growth forests. The whole system of capitalism is to make as much money as you can, if that means cutting down a forest (then replacing it with a homogenised farm of the same tree in straight lines.. this is not a forrest!) then it'll happen.

My 'i don't give a f*ck about the economy' stance stems from the fact that I truly believe that we are fucked in the near future, once our unsustainable lifestyles catch up with us. Money can't buy fresh water if there isn't any around!

I really don't see how it's possible for this society that we are in today to continue without destroying everything at the current rate -

What I'm saying is that you can't say 'f*ck the economy' and still want to promote enovironmental changes. The eonvrionment IS the economy. We're all aware of the evils of capitalism. I don't agree with it any more than you do. But you can't ignore it. That will do more harm than good. One of the most heartening things about the recent 'trend' for green issues in the UK is that, whilst it may be a little superficial to buy fair trade chocolate or drive a Prius, it is making the government take notice. The next election will have green issues as a fairly central theme. Politicians know that, in the UK at least, they can't win elections if they go along with the whole 'global warming is bunk, more money is all that matters' road. Perhaps the US is a little behind in that regard, but hopefully it will get there.

Then we've just got China and India to deal with...

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:07 am

Yes, but what is Ron Paul's stance?

Let me tell you: feet apart, hands on hips, pelvis thrust slightly outwards, staring right through you with those 'come to bed, america' eyes.

Ron Paul. He's attracting everyone. Except homos.

radiojake · Post by **radiojake** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:16 am

Guiscard wrote: One of the most heartening things about the recent 'trend' for green issues in the UK is that, whilst it may be a little superficial to buy fair trade chocolate or drive a Prius, it is making the government take notice. The next election will have green issues as a fairly central theme.

Actually, interestingly enough going 'Green' is very in vogue over here in Australia too, it's just more that (to me anyway) it feels like another advertising angle. Like Virgin Airlines saying they're 'green' if you donate an extra $2 to your flight costs, which they will then use to 'offset your carbon emissions' with some environmental programme.

People talk about going green and all the like but don't actually do anything with substance about it. But yes, granted, it is still early days. But I don't want to see another BMW billboard calling their new car 'Green' - calling a car green is just stupid. It pollutes less than an old one, but it still pollutes!

Guiscard wrote:Then we've just got China and India to deal with...

And here is where the camels back will break - so to speak - The worst thing about these two countries situation is that they will probably cop most of the blame once resources do run out, but it would be awfully unfair to put it squarely on them

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:53 am

These guys support Ron Paul and so should you!