American vs. European Football

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:01 pm

no man utd are sponcerd by AIG a big company in the usa.

to some it up i think europeans have common ground between one another, americans are on there own, a country seperated by war and power, werther it be sports etc

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OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:01 pm

Ronaldinho wrote:
spring1 wrote:Ronaldinho,

Do you realize that (at least in this thread) the more you post, the more insecure you sound? Instead of simply stating your opinion, you hysterically go off on wild tangents proclaiming that Americans can't stand to lose so they form their own sports in order to win? Do you realize how ridiculous and idiotic you sound? Did it ever occur to you that perhaps those in America aren't as easily seduced by conformity as you seem to be? Be it sports, religion, politics, science, whatever--I find people who have the strength to stand against the majority and shatter the mold to be the physical embodiments of leadership--regardless of the nationality of the man or woman behind the origination. Your lack of appreciation and respect for others that might differ from you is both unfortunate and noted.

This is what i mean, in europe we have a balanced love for particular sports be it football etc, americans just think f*ck that and loose what love they have as a country and become singles. You then loose your sence of comunity ?, i ema fair enough in the town i live in there are fights etc but we come together to play football becuz we love, no matter who we are.

im sorry bro i just think we a closer nation and im proud of that

Sorry mate I still can't see where the hell you're coming from

We DO play soccer in America. Furthermore, we DO play soccer on an international level. I don't understand where you're coming from on the "Americans make up their own sports that they can win at" argument.

Maybe you should note that soccer is the main INTERNATIONAL SPORT recognized in America and that the world cup is the main INTERNATIONAL SPORTING EVENT (aside from the Olympics of course) viewed in America? We don't play against you in sports we "invented", such as American Football, so i don't see where you're coming from in terms of "we want to beat the rest of the world so we make our own sports."

To sum MY point up, we're perfectly diverse in our sports. I havent seen anything which would suggest otherwise.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:11 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:I hate baseball, as do probably 50% of Americans. Most boring sport I've ever seen.

^^^Words of Wisdom

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:12 pm

soccer is cool, I like football better though

spring1 · Post by **spring1** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:15 pm

Ronaldinho wrote:This is what i mean, in europe we have a balanced love for particular sports be it football etc, americans just think f*ck that and loose what love they have as a country and become singles. You then loose your sence of comunity ?, i ema fair enough in the town i live in there are fights etc but we come together to play football becuz we love, no matter who we are.

im sorry bro i just think we a closer nation and im proud of that

That's one truly warped view. You were correct in one of your earlier posts--you are incredibly narrow-minded. That's sad. Judging from your obvious lack of rational thought, you cannot be more than 16.

Did you grow up here? Do you live here now? Christ in heaven are you people guillible--to form incredibly biased opinions based on assumption, word-of-mouth, and sheer innuendo. Do you see me presuming to know what your society is like because of what I have read in a book or seen on TV?

What the hell am I doing arguing with someone who lacks the wisdom and experience needed to survive on his own, let alone try to form an educated opinion on cultural differences and their propensity towards the irrelevant? You're right, Ronald...Americans are all obese, self-centered, self-absorbed, uneducated, ostentatious, bigoted, war-mongering shells of human existence. CNN said so. It must be true. :roll:

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:16 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:
Ronaldinho wrote:
spring1 wrote:Ronaldinho,

Do you realize that (at least in this thread) the more you post, the more insecure you sound? Instead of simply stating your opinion, you hysterically go off on wild tangents proclaiming that Americans can't stand to lose so they form their own sports in order to win? Do you realize how ridiculous and idiotic you sound? Did it ever occur to you that perhaps those in America aren't as easily seduced by conformity as you seem to be? Be it sports, religion, politics, science, whatever--I find people who have the strength to stand against the majority and shatter the mold to be the physical embodiments of leadership--regardless of the nationality of the man or woman behind the origination. Your lack of appreciation and respect for others that might differ from you is both unfortunate and noted.

This is what i mean, in europe we have a balanced love for particular sports be it football etc, americans just think f*ck that and loose what love they have as a country and become singles. You then loose your sence of comunity ?, i ema fair enough in the town i live in there are fights etc but we come together to play football becuz we love, no matter who we are.

im sorry bro i just think we a closer nation and im proud of that

Sorry mate I still can't see where the hell you're coming from

We DO play soccer in America. Furthermore, we DO play soccer on an international level. I don't understand where you're coming from on the "Americans make up their own sports that they can win at" argument.

Maybe you should note that soccer is the main INTERNATIONAL SPORT recognized in America and that the world cup is the main INTERNATIONAL SPORTING EVENT (aside from the Olympics of course) viewed in America? We don't play against you in sports we "invented", such as American Football, so i don't see where you're coming from in terms of "we want to beat the rest of the world so we make our own sports."

To sum MY point up, we're perfectly diverse in our sports. I havent seen anything which would suggest otherwise.

Dont worry my mistake bro, thanks you have open'd my eyes a little more i have to go now as its 4:15 am here and im tired cya

Sammy gags · Post by **Sammy gags** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:19 pm

i like american football better because, u need 2 be skilled with every part of your body (not just feet), there is more thinking involved, & most of all u cant foul out

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:53 pm

i like american because there are different skills that you can use. (throwing, catching, tackling, etc.) and because i personally find it more exciting

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:50 am

gavin_sidhu wrote:european football, like the stratergy and you dont have to be mentally insane to play it (why else would u risk ur life in american football)

American Football is not as big of an injury deal. You're just as likely to get injured by a legal move in soccer as you are from a legal American football hit. It's when people start breaking the rules or the guy with the ball does something to leave himself exposed that you get hurt. Also, you're really not risking your life in American Football. It hasn't been that way since they banned clotheslines and Facemasks.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:51 am

Ronaldinho wrote:European, has to be americans cant play it so they make up a whole new game and put "american" in front of it so they win at it all the time

European football is exciting and for many people is there life.

Wrong. We didn't use European football because it's just not that popular here in the states.

cattrain · Post by **cattrain** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:35 am

i have no opinion... the only team i ever see is the cheifs... if you know anything about them you know what i mean... its kinda sad...

but ya... i like euro football... I used to play when i was 6... i was a goaley... but... all i can remember... it was weird... for some reason i felt the need to eat the grass... weird aint it?

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:43 am

cattrain wrote:i have no opinion... the only team i ever see is the cheifs... if you know anything about them you know what i mean... its kinda sad...

but ya... i like euro football... I used to play when i was 6... i was a goaley... but... all i can remember... it was weird... for some reason i felt the need to eat the grass... weird aint it?

after you wanting to eat grass i think your weird :wink:

cattrain · Post by **cattrain** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:46 am

yes, i am weird... but i am 16 now... that was 10 years ago... hee hee hee

Mirak · Post by **Mirak** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:43 am

The beauty of soccer is its simplicity and purity

A round object..the ball...and a flat space
That's it and that's why it has probably been played in one form or another since the first man accidently kicked some roundish object and thought hey thats fun....

Much as I love to watch American Football I find it too contrived and artificial...

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:58 am

I can't say i like either of them, except for the world cup, that's fun!

but i have to say european because american football just looks like some cheap rip off of rugby.

Dlakavi · Post by **Dlakavi** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:07 am

DogDoc wrote:All right, well let me ask the question from a little different angle. What is it that we Americans are missing? Why don't you think football as you know it to be has not caught on over here? Why don't we "get it"?

Soccer is the most popular female sport in America, and is very popular among younger people as OnlyAmbrose said.
So you only speak for yourself, not the majority of americans.
I think in about 10 years it will be a most popular sport in America and America will have a great soccer team.
Soccer is great because if you want to play it you only have to hava a small flat area, 4 shirts or rocks (goals), 5 friends and a ball.
Kinda like basketball.

Sammy gags wrote:i like american football better because, u need 2 be skilled with every part of your body (not just feet), there is more thinking involved, & most of all u cant foul out

Judging from what you just said, you haven't seen a soccer game in your entire life

hasaki · Post by **hasaki** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:11 am

What are you guys on about soccer and american football both suck. Australian football is no1. High scores and fasted paced.

And for the English out there. The ashes is ours.

DogDoc · Post by **DogDoc** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:27 am

Dlakavi wrote:
Soccer is the most popular female sport in America, and is very popular among younger people as OnlyAmbrose said.
So you only speak for yourself, not the majority of americans.
I think in about 10 years it will be a most popular sport in America and America will have a great soccer team.

As I haven't seen college soccer games televised every Saturday, professional soccer games televised on Sundays, and as there are no Monday Night Soccer games and no Soccer Super Bowl, I think I am speaking for the majority of Americans.

From what I can gather from people who know about soccer, they enjoy it more as a participation sport and not a spectating one. And that's what this thread is all about. Why hasn't soccer caught on in America to the level of American football as a spectator sport?

DogDoc · Post by **DogDoc** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:29 am

hasaki wrote:What are you guys on about soccer and american football both suck. Australian football is no1. High scores and fasted paced.

And for the English out there. The ashes is ours.

If I could just figure out the rules, you might be right . . .

It looks like rugby (which I played for a few years in college) but it's not rugby.

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:52 am

Mirak wrote:Much as I love to watch American Football I find it too contrived and artificial...

I agree that it certainly has gotten that way. The NFL is just a big commericalized mess.

That's why I watch high school football games! Free admission, the games are just as good, and I actually have a reason to root for my team

OnlyAmbrose · Post by **OnlyAmbrose** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:54 am

As a side note..

cross country PWNS both footballs.

Talking about simple sports, what could be more simple than 14 people seeing who can run the fastest? ^_^

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:16 pm

DogDoc wrote:As I haven't seen college soccer games televised every Saturday, professional soccer games televised on Sundays, and as there are no Monday Night Soccer games and no Soccer Super Bowl, I think I am speaking for the majority of Americans.

Whats so good about America Football? You can predict the results... Some years ago (like 15 years) we could watch the Super Bowl in Brazilian open TV... Wow, the score is just like the critics predicted

Soccer also can be a bit boring, I think. Not only some poor played games, I hate championships like Spain National, or English Premier League, where only 2-3 teams have major chances of win... Try to predict what team will be Brazilian champion before the tourney start... or try to predict World Cup champion... its not easy when you have 8-10 teams with real possibilities, and only one goal can make all difference.

cattrain · Post by **cattrain** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:25 pm

ohh... just thought of something else... i hardly ever watch american football, but i always watch the superbowl... last year it i was at my church at a youth group superbowl party, and we usually ran around and talked during the game, but we always watched the comercials... :lol:

edmundomcpot · Post by **edmundomcpot** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:27 pm

i like Football(european) far better
it might just be because ive grown up with it or that it flows much better, american football keeps stopping and restarting just because one person gets tackled

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:11 pm

Marvaddin wrote:
DogDoc wrote:As I haven't seen college soccer games televised every Saturday, professional soccer games televised on Sundays, and as there are no Monday Night Soccer games and no Soccer Super Bowl, I think I am speaking for the majority of Americans.

Whats so good about America Football? You can predict the results... Some years ago (like 15 years) we could watch the Super Bowl in Brazilian open TV... Wow, the score is just like the critics predicted

Soccer also can be a bit boring, I think. Not only some poor played games, I hate championships like Spain National, or English Premier League, where only 2-3 teams have major chances of win... Try to predict what team will be Brazilian champion before the tourney start... or try to predict World Cup champion... its not easy when you have 8-10 teams with real possibilities, and only one goal can make all difference.

Premiership for the runnings thus far in the season:

portsmouth
man utd
chealsea

outsiders:

liverpool
arsenal

this is one of the most exciting years so far for tension becus you have to win EVERY game nowadays :twisted: