Should Xtratabasco be allowed back into the forums?

[DaGip]

Can we all just take a step back in time when xtratabasco was still in the forums? Sure he might have not gotten along with some people, but his presence really did add flavor to the CC forums.

When Wicked accused Xtra unfairly of being a multi and posting porn, then used that against him for a minor (I am talking severely minor flaming incident) transgression that resulted in a permaban as soon as Wicked BECAME a mod! Xtra used the term jock sniffing ball licker, and that got him banned? Hardly a flame. Wicked just didn't like Xtra and was looking for any little excuse to ban him from the forums.

I am asking that the new moderation please review the Xtra case and come to the conclusion of lifting his ban from the forums! Xtra never has been a multi, and was wrongly accused of posting porn in the forums...those incidents should not be held against him.

Xtra has remained a member of CC despite his bannage and did not create any multis (unlike Norse Sucky Norse punk boy Norse) to infiltrate the forums.

LACK can you PLEASE lift the Ban on Xtra? He really doesn't deserve it.

[wicked]

I like Xtra. Bring him back. Bring back all my bans.

[clapper011]

I like xtra too

shouldnt he be freed?

[DaGip]

I like xtra too

shouldnt he be freed?

Yes, yes he should...

[TeeGee]

As wicked herself has now confessed to us all that over the past few months she has not been herself. (and i join all the others in wishing her a speedy recovery). Should Xtras case be re-examined as a matter of urgency? Should he be compensated if he is found to have been incorrectly punished?

We may not all agree with his statements, but as the forum is in its present form, we are all entitled to our opinions

[DaGip]

You took the words out of my mouth. Wicked's judgements might have been flawed in Xtra's case (and others as well). I say that if they have not been banned for being a multi, or some SEVERE forum transgression, the mods now should let them back.

Norse can stay missing as he is now just a pesky infiltrator; but as for Xtra, there is no reason to keep him banned. You can hate the guys opinions if you want, but he shouldn't be forum banned.

[TeeGee]

I personally think he should.

He also has enough public support behind him (including a moderator) that if this is a true community driven forum that he will be released. We just have to stay firm and calm in our approach and the powers that be, will hopefully listen.

[AndyDufresne]

Merged the threads about Xtra. Maybe he should file an e-ticket?


--Andy

[TeeGee]

Merged the threads about Xtra. Maybe he should file an e-ticket?


--Andy

Thanks Andy, I have just passed that info on to him..

[wrestler1ump]

I'm not sure who you should talk to about re-hiring xtratabasco, but twill probably gets to make the call on this. I see no fault in wicked's decision to ban tabasco. He created a multi. He posted porn. He flamed outside of flame wars. He posted racist remarks. He used up all his warnings, and he got nailed for it. If he can't play by the rules then maybe this isn't the site for him.

Besides, I got tired of hearing him talk about 9/11 and constantly posting internet articles as though he were some kind of detective.

[TeeGee]

I'm not sure who you should talk to about re-hiring xtratabasco, but twill probably gets to make the call on this. I see no fault in wicked's decision to ban tabasco. He created a multi. He posted porn. He flamed outside of flame wars. He posted racist remarks. He used up all his warnings, and he got nailed for it. If he can't play by the rules then maybe this isn't the site for him.

Besides, I got tired of hearing him talk about 9/11 and constantly posting internet articles as though he were some kind of detective.

xtra was NEVER busted as a multi and there was NEVER any proof he posted porn. If there was then i wouldnt support him.

Show some proof?

[muy_thaiguy]

I'm not sure who you should talk to about re-hiring xtratabasco, but twill probably gets to make the call on this. I see no fault in wicked's decision to ban tabasco. He created a multi. He posted porn. He flamed outside of flame wars. He posted racist remarks. He used up all his warnings, and he got nailed for it. If he can't play by the rules then maybe this isn't the site for him.

Besides, I got tired of hearing him talk about 9/11 and constantly posting internet articles as though he were some kind of detective.

xtra was NEVER busted as a multi and there was NEVER any proof he posted porn. If there was then i wouldnt support him.

Show some proof?

Never saw the alleged porn, nor ever heard of him being a multi, but the guy needs to learn to keep topics about Ron Paul and 9/11 to one or two threads.

Though, I think many can agree that Dekloran (shudders) can stay banned, yes?

[lord voldemort]

agreed i dont get along with xtra, mainly cause i handed his arse in many triples games...but a perma ban is pretty unfair. he served his time. still is playing and its doubtful he created a multi and i have seen no proof of posting porn. as long as he keeps his conspiracies to one or two threads though

[militant]

yes he should

[DaGip]

The 9/11 Merged Threads can always be resurrected, and I would guess that Xtra would try to keep that thread at the top of the forum list, which is fine with me. There are others out there that like debating that issue, I found it interesting in the beginning and still enjoy reading the debates going on. I really miss Backglass and Xtra going at it with ad infinitum quote pyramids. One single quote pyramid would take up one entire page!

As far as Ron Paul goes, I don't think anyone really writes about him anymore, even Xtra. I still support Ron Paul and his philosophy, but everyone pretty much knows about it and debating Ron Paul isn't as fun as debating whether or not Bush crashed jet planes and then exploded the Twin Towers using Thermite or Thermate.

Mostly, Xtra would post topics about Police brutality and the Police state in America, also the dangers of prescription medication (of which our beloved Wicked has just started her journey with).

If anything, the forums would be a bit less boring. After Xtra got kicked, the forums just turned into mush, like What Kind Of Cheese Do You Like? or How Many Fingers Am I Holding Up? instead of The NIST Disagrees With The Government's Pancake Collapse Theory.

The sooner Xtra can get back into the forums, the better!

[suggs]

he probably should be allowed back in, although it would be a REAL BORE, unless he's dropped his paranoid delusional nonsense about 9/11.
But i guess you can always just ignore his posts.

[gannable]

i never read any of his articles about 9/11 but it's obvious to me that the government story is a lie. So I wouldnt be offended by anything he's saying.

I supported Ron Paul. I'll support about anyone who talks about the Federal Reserve system

[daydream]

i've had my little run-in with xtra, i joined a few of his teamfreestyle games with my team, and he accused us of cheating because we played our first few turns at the same time. he left us ratings that were removed over and over again, and had everyone he knows put us on ignore. just recently i still received a rediculous rating from a friend of his. in fact, first he had given me a good one, then removed that, and replaced it with the bs one, even though there were no grounds for it. Also what he tells everyone about asking us kindly not to "same-time play" is NOT true. search all my games with him and read the gamechat, you will nowhere find such a request. so if this is the kind of player you want to let back on the forums, then i say no, we don't need characters like that.

i know, a lot of people will be bothered by this, and i probably just increased the amount of crap i am getting for this instead of reducing it, but i wanted to get my oppinion in here.

[jiminski]

Well i remember well the 'porn' posting incident. Xtra may have quoted the images (not really porn.. they are still etched upon my minds eye; it was stretched, bloody, butchered female genitals in the main) but he did not post them to begin with. (i remember who did too )

but this was not the reason he was banned.. he was banned for all the Beaner threads, if i remember correctly... sheese the Forums were far more 1 dimensional than even now.

He certainly was a character and i certainly don't dislike him but he was a fairly selfish in the monotony and prevalence of his posting activity.

He is a proud and thick skinned chap and i am not sure he could resist holding the same court.. who knows!

[TheTrueNorth]

has he been banned because

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[DaGip]

Well i remember well the 'porn' posting incident. Xtra may have quoted the images (not really porn.. they are still etched upon my minds eye; it was stretched, bloody, butchered female genitals in the main) but he did not post them to begin with. (i remember who did too )

but this was not the reason he was banned.. he was banned for all the Beaner threads, if i remember correctly... sheese the Forums were far more 1 dimensional than even now.

He certainly was a character and i certainly don't dislike him but he was a fairly selfish in the monotony and prevalence of his posting activity.

He is a proud and thick skinned chap and i am not sure he could resist holding the same court.. who knows!

Jimi, xtra wasn't permabanned for racist threads (Norse was). Xtra was permabanned because he flamed soundout9 out of FW by calling soundout9: a jock sniffing ball licker.

That was just the excuse for the actual ban, the real reason for the ban is a mystery. I have seen worse flames outside of FW than that, and no one ever receives a ban (much less a permaban) for doing so. Usually a PM warning will do the job nicely enough.

[muy_thaiguy]

Well i remember well the 'porn' posting incident. Xtra may have quoted the images (not really porn.. they are still etched upon my minds eye; it was stretched, bloody, butchered female genitals in the main) but he did not post them to begin with. (i remember who did too )

but this was not the reason he was banned.. he was banned for all the Beaner threads, if i remember correctly... sheese the Forums were far more 1 dimensional than even now.

He certainly was a character and i certainly don't dislike him but he was a fairly selfish in the monotony and prevalence of his posting activity.

He is a proud and thick skinned chap and i am not sure he could resist holding the same court.. who knows!

Jimi, xtra wasn't permabanned for racist threads (Norse was). Xtra was permabanned because he flamed soundout9 out of FW by calling soundout9: a jock sniffing ball licker.

That was just the excuse for the actual ban, the real reason for the ban is a mystery. I have seen worse flames outside of FW than that, and no one ever receives a ban (much less a permaban) for doing so. Usually a PM warning will do the job nicely enough.

That, and having been warned several times (pm and in threads) to stop creating Ron Paul and 9/1 threads. He didn't.

[DaGip]

Well i remember well the 'porn' posting incident. Xtra may have quoted the images (not really porn.. they are still etched upon my minds eye; it was stretched, bloody, butchered female genitals in the main) but he did not post them to begin with. (i remember who did too )

but this was not the reason he was banned.. he was banned for all the Beaner threads, if i remember correctly... sheese the Forums were far more 1 dimensional than even now.

He certainly was a character and i certainly don't dislike him but he was a fairly selfish in the monotony and prevalence of his posting activity.

He is a proud and thick skinned chap and i am not sure he could resist holding the same court.. who knows!

Jimi, xtra wasn't permabanned for racist threads (Norse was). Xtra was permabanned because he flamed soundout9 out of FW by calling soundout9: a jock sniffing ball licker.

That was just the excuse for the actual ban, the real reason for the ban is a mystery. I have seen worse flames outside of FW than that, and no one ever receives a ban (much less a permaban) for doing so. Usually a PM warning will do the job nicely enough.

That, and having been warned several times (pm and in threads) to stop creating Ron Paul and 9/1 threads. He didn't.

Why ban him for that? (which he wasn't banned for, by the way...may have been the real underlying issue though) I remember at the time there were SPORT threads clogging up the forums as well. I bet no one got pmed or banned for those threads. Double Standard...

[Juan_Bottom]

I barely know him, but it doesn't sound like he's a jerk or anything. Anyway he can always be re-banned. It would suck being permabanned, so I'm sure he learned his lesson. Why not put him on some kind of probation?

[DaGip]

I barely know him, but it doesn't sound like he's a jerk or anything. Anyway he can always be re-banned. It would suck being permabanned, so I'm sure he learned his lesson. Why not put him on some kind of probation?

Probation has been debated before. I say that all permabanned members ban records be reviewed at the time of membership renewal, and the mods can decide accordingly...paying members should be considered for probationary release.