PLEASE STOP WITH THE ACCUSATIONS!

AussieBoss · Post by **AussieBoss** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:55 pm

In the month that myself and a few friends have registered for the site, no few than 10 people have accused us of cheating. Whether it be multi-ing or colluding "secretly" or suiciding into an opponent to open the door for someone else. This is all nonsense. First of all, let me clear up who is in our little group of friends who love Conquer Clubbing. They are myself AussieBoss, BeerMeSoon, BeerMeNow(no relation), A_Ivanovich, gabo05, and MadagascarPWNS!!. Now just because we are in the same game, rarely without being partnered up, and one of us wins doesn't mean we are/were cheating. So stop whining. Most recently someone accused BeerMeSoon of cheating because he was on an opposing team of mine and got eliminated quite easily. Guess what, shitty dice and bad opening position does not equal cheating. And that goes for everytime we end up on different teams. We aren't pulling any punches. We want to beat each other, more for the bragging rights than the rank. So I guess this is for the Admins here, a few of us are victims of our own success and I wanted to reassure you that nothing out of the ordinary is happening in our games and if you want us to do something to help lessen the accusations just let us now.

Thnx
AussieBoss

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:58 pm

Suck it up cupcake!

Oh yeah, can you please post here to confirm your spot on the St. Louis Team?
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... &start=210

Thanks

MadagascarPWNS!! · Post by **MadagascarPWNS!!** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:05 pm

Well I think your saying that to the wrong person... I think the little pussys that refuse to finish a game cuz they "think we're cheating" need to do that... So with my final statement. "People Shut the f*ck up and finish your games."

nyg5680 · Post by **nyg5680** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:07 pm

YAH i think i joined a game wit 1 of ur friends

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:31 pm

Who cares?...suck it up...Many multis busted this way..got nothing to hide then who cares...

Buddy Jesus · Post by **Buddy Jesus** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:13 am

hes saying hes tired of getting accused all the time, if he has a rep of being a multi no ones gonna wanna play with them.

nyg5680 · Post by **nyg5680** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:28 am

^hey i think im in a game wit him 2 there pretty good players

gerry22 · Post by **gerry22** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:36 am

Play private games and you won't be labeled a cheater. Don't tell me you already do this because all one has to do is look at your game history.

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:45 pm

LetGodSortThem wrote:Who cares?...suck it up...Many multis busted this way..got nothing to hide then who cares...

I CARE Isn't that one of the biggist problems in our world right now? Nobody cares unless it involves them.

Why should people have to defend themselves if there is no proof?

I know you don't have any friends here that you play because I know you would put them on your ignore list, and you said people should not play against their friends. I also know you don't play anybody twice because then you could be accused of being friends and then the next logical step would be accuse you of being a multi.

nyg5680 · Post by **nyg5680** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:08 pm

he makes a good point tho if he has nothin 2 hide than it doesnt matter

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:25 pm

nyg5680 wrote:he makes a good point tho if he has nothin 2 hide than it doesnt matter

Yes it does matter. If you get accused and there is no proof then it is just wrong.

Why don't you guys apply the phiolosphy in real life and see if you still think that way. And don't say that it is different, because if you believe it is ok if you have nothing to hide then what is to stop someone working at a store from accusing you of shoplifting? No harm no foul? Or you get arrested for robbery, would that be ok?

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:45 pm

Evil, most of the time it isn't an accusation so much as someone just asking for an IP check. I agree that if you aren't a multi, then there really is nothing to get worked up about because this is how this system currently works!

You probly think it does matter because you play here with your wife and have been accused several times. The multi hunters have been trained well to determine if it's the same person or 2 different people, even if they play from the same computer.

As long as you get the [Cleared] by your name, and feedback taken off it necessary, then no harm no foul.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:51 pm

evil, you're implying we bust people w/o proof. :roll:

get a clue, would ya? there are thousands of active users at this site. We rely on the community to turn in the cheaters, as there's no way we could police it all ourselves.

stinkycheese · Post by **stinkycheese** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:53 pm

AK_iceman wrote:Evil, most of the time it isn't an accusation so much as someone just asking for an IP check. I agree that if you aren't a multi, then there really is nothing to get worked up about because this is how this system currently works!

You probly think it does matter because you play here with your wife and have been accused several times. The multi hunters have been trained well to determine if it's the same person or 2 different people, even if they play from the same computer.

As long as you get the [Cleared] by your name, and feedback taken off it necessary, then no harm no foul.

Exactly...

I've probably been accused more times than Semp and I don't give a shit. I know that the IP isn't the only thing that's checked; there are other factors. Anything suspicious should be checked because the Multi Hunters are very thorough and the more people that get checked, the cleaner the site will be.

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:22 pm

wicked wrote:evil, you're implying we bust people w/o proof. get a clue, would ya?

I think you should get a clue wicked. I would have thought that as a moderator you would have read what I said earlier. Can you point out where I implied that people get busted without proof?

wicked wrote:there are thousands of active users at this site. We rely on the community to turn in the cheaters, as there's no way we could police it all ourselves.

You state the obvious, but don't you think there should be some proof before people are accused? What is the percentage rate of people being busted and cleared?

But doesn't your reaction support my argument? You thought I was accusing you and the multi hunters of not doing your job. If I had accused you of that I would not have had any proof. So according to the "if you have nothing to hide" then you should not have been offended or needed to defend the multi hunters.

And by the way wicked my Bears just beat your Seachicks.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:27 pm

yes, I watched the game. hardly my seahawks, but whatever.

99% of the people who post accusations truly believe the accussed are cheating, based on how the game was played. That is enough for us to launch an investigation, where we then gather the proof needed.

And no, I didn't think you were accussing us of anything, that was your erroneous assumption, which I see you make a lot of.

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:34 pm

Talk about erroneous assumptions, which you seem to make a your fair share of. The 99% that you were talking about, is that not counting the names are similiar, they take their turns or they play in a lot of games together and join right after one another. That one was last week.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:37 pm

Semp, doesnt' matter. We're not going to ask people to stop making accusations, so you're wasting your breath.

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:39 pm

Again with the erroneous assumption. I didn't ask people to stop making accusations. I just asked them to have some proof.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:42 pm

I know what you're saying. All someone needs is a suspicion to report someone, and that happens the majority of the time. The PROOF comes from the investigation.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:45 pm

Evil Semp wrote:Again with the erroneous assumption. I didn't ask people to stop making accusations. I just asked them to have some proof.

How do normal users get actual proof?

joeyjordison · Post by **joeyjordison** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:48 pm

why not just run an IP check on all of them and clear it up once and for all then if u r ever accused of being multis we know u aren't.... as for alliances then play on the same team in a doubles or triples game but not against each other or set up games with only people u know...

Post by **Evil Semp** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:51 pm

Maybe I use the wrong word. But I hope you understand what I am saying.

When the member named Multi was accused, was it a good enough reason just because of his name? I don't think so. Did he do anything suspicious in a game?

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:53 pm

But when the member named Wicked_ and and the fake "Lackattack" showed up they were both accused right away and found guilty.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:04 pm

Believe it or not Semp, some multis are stupid enough to use similiar names, like Semp1, Semp2, etc.. or just plan stupid names, like "IhackConquerClub". So yes, sometimes names are suspicion enough. :roll: