First Attempt: South Africa (Boer War)

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:58 pm

So...things to do (taking suggestions in mind):

1. Use map in title - design more interesting title
2. Make trees more varied and reaslitic patterns
3. Add general touches to make look more professional
4. Work on compass

What else?

Please be specific.

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:15 am

certain stuff is just a little sloppy. The mess of names and borders in the south east is the first thing I see. and the color scheme doesn't agree with me, but I'm like darker maps better, Europe for instance so that's just a personal thing

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:42 am

title need changing and certin parts like swaziland look crowded

whijazi · Post by **whijazi** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:50 am

I like the map....i would put a link between the island to the east and the mainland.

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:21 pm

NEWEST Verion (4.0):

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:23 pm

try adding thing step by step,
first take the basic map, u have countries here and try to color them to a feeling that u think is best for the map.

than u go on with adding mountains and such.

if u trow everything in at once it very diffucult to critique. so i suggest first do the coloring than add better mountain.

U however dont need to listen to me :p

Well that covers it, i would like to play this map only making it appealing goes in steps

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:23 pm

In this version:

+ New graphic effects
+ Smoother Trading Post Symbols
+ More Readable Continents
+ Reduce number of territories in south east to reduce congestion
+ Changed continent values
+ Changed ocean script
+ Changed compass
+ More interesting and realistic trees/jungle

What do I need to do? How can I make improvements?

Nikita_2006 · Post by **Nikita_2006** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:39 pm

I want to know what Andy thinks of the map.

It is getting better, we need his comment I think.

I hope that both South-Africa maps can get to the finals

gr. nikita

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:48 pm

Nikita_2006 wrote:I hope that both South-Africa maps can get to the finals

Are we having a competition...?

Nikita_2006 · Post by **Nikita_2006** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:15 pm

Of course it is a competions, i like competions

Like both maps, and shall comment this one and the one of your opponent

gr. nikita

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:21 pm

Newest version (4.5)...

I included a new title in this one.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:27 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:
try adding thing step by step,
first take the basic map, u have countries here and try to color them to a feeling that u think is best for the map.

than u go on with adding mountains and such.

if u trow everything in at once it very diffucult to critique. so i suggest first do the coloring than add better mountain.

U however dont need to listen to me :p

Well that covers it, i would like to play this map only making it appealing goes in steps

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:36 pm

Well - what specifically can I do to improve this map? How can I get it ready to play? Does it look interesting?

Nikita_2006 · Post by **Nikita_2006** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:43 pm

OK stronger give your comment, it is usefull

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:49 pm

Please don't use South Africa's new flag if you want to do a Boer War map.
The Orange Freestate and Transvaal had their own flags.

Orange Free State flag:

Transvaal (Zuid Afrikaanse Republiek) flag - Vierkleur:

Are you making a map of the Boer War, or Southern Africa?
The Boer War didn't actually take place over to the borders to the neighbouring countries to the North, I believe.
Here's a nice resource for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War
Maybe you could bring in the islands of St. Helena and Ceylon, where the concentration camps were based?

armychick · Post by **armychick** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:53 pm

I think that the ocean is to dark, also the scroll shouldn't be there, it doesn't look right(to me) I think you should have it on something like what you have the "south africa" title on maybe, that might look better..everything else looks good..of course this is only what I think, leave it or take it!

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Well - it's very loosely based on the Boer War. The general territorial layout reflects the Boer War, but the actual map is based on about 3 dozen maps from the period. It is supposed to be of historical South Africa, though obviously to make it player-friendly, territorial lines had to be changed and shifted.

Nikita_2006 · Post by **Nikita_2006** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:03 pm

Crowley wrote:Please don't use South Africa's new flag if you want to do a Boer War map.
The Orange Freestate and Transvaal had their own flags.

Orange Free State flag:

Transvaal (Zuid Afrikaanse Republiek) flag - Vierkleur:

Are you making a map of the Boer War, or Southern Africa?
The Boer War didn't actually take place over to the borders to the neighbouring countries to the North, I believe.
Here's a nice resource for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War
Maybe you could bring in the islands of St. Helena and Ceylon, where the concentration camps were based?

Nice maps, we must use them I think

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:03 pm

And I don't want to use the Transvaal or Orange Republic flags because those are only part of the total territory on the map (a small part).

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:04 pm

Stronger wrote:Well - it's very loosely based on the Boer War. The general territorial layout reflects the Boer War, but the actual map is based on about 3 dozen maps from the period. It is supposed to be of historical South Africa, though obviously to make it player-friendly, territorial lines had to be changed and shifted.

I understand that.

One thing you MUST change is not use our new flag for a map based on that era.

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:05 pm

Stronger wrote:And I don't want to use the Transvaal or Orange Republic flags because those are only part of the total territory on the map (a small part).

Then take out the flag completely.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:08 pm

Straighten up some more of those names, like the southeast islands.

Maybe move some titles around, like Noordwes to the top of that territory.

Go with one style of mountains, instead of two?

Gozar

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:11 pm

I'll work on the titles - I agree there. As for the mountains - some are supposed to be sand mountains or sand dunes.

Stronger · Post by **Stronger** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:14 pm

I really appreciate all the feedback, by the way.

Nikita_2006 · Post by **Nikita_2006** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:15 pm

Can you place the large and the smaller map so we could see the fonts on both