suspect of multi razoget999 and Le_Phenix[busted]es

[Visigoth]

Accused:

[player]razoget999[/player]
[player]Le_Phenix[/player]



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis



Game number(s):

Game 9626315
Game 9626348
Game 9626339
Game 9626312
Game 9626347


Comments: I am playing a tourney "HA reaches 5000 Arms Race Games" and they are both taking turns within seconds of each other, i suspect he/she is a multi, i asked in the chat and one moderator pointed me to this forum, never had to in the past.

i request them to be investigated. I hope i am not mistaken and already i thank you for your time for looking into this.

[chapcrap]

I have seen these two often in many of my tournaments and I never suspected any foul play on their part. Doesn't mean it's not true, but seems surprising to me.

[jefjef]

Le_Phenix signed up himself and razoget999 in a dubs tourney today. Very well could be some collusion or favoritism...

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=152431

Le_Phenix also kinda reminds me of [player]Le_Cardinal[/player]/[player]Le cardinal[/player].

[mviola]

viewtopic.php?f=91&t=141237&start=30#p3094773

Actually, they did sign up right after each other in one of chap's tourney's that I'm helping him run within 4 minutes of each other.

[D00MandD3A7H]

So you are saying Razoget flies to France from Barbados in 4 minutes or less? How would that be possible?

[razoget999]

Lucky me I have some friends on this site who informed me about this surprising inquiry…☺
I am not please but I understand that for some bitter players this could be confused…
As a matter of clarification please note that my brother and I often play together but rarely against each other.
In addition, we almost never played together not being a team in the same game, because it could be unfair to other players. Hence you will note that we stick to team games.
Regarding being always connected at the same time, I do not think it is true. We interact a lot therefore we are often connected at the same time but not always… I have played many games with team players being connected at the same time and playing one after the other. This should not be a surprise for anybody.I dot think this break any rules.is it?
Somebody mentioned the flag. For me it will be Barbados (where I leave) and Belgium (this is my office satellite connection). Some of you may also have noticed some other flags such as St Lucia or St Vincent where I can play waiting at the airport while traveling… I got a question last time from a player who queried about this, so better being transparent ... Anyway travelling or playing from different computers is not against the rules. Is it?
To confuse you a bit more, by the way I am French. So is my brother, who is base over there, so is flag will be mostly France.
Last thing. You will note that we never take turn one for the other contrary to what is on-going at the moment on this site. This is cheating! Connecting to one’s account to play for him. Maybe this is what you should inquiry instead of bothering well regarded players of the website.
Even if I am really confused right now, note that I really enjoy playing onthis site. Therefore, I hope this insanity will come to an end soon.
Hope to play you again anytime Visigoth.

[razoget999]

One last thing that croossed my mind...
What would I gain being a multy? Maybe if you ask yourself this question you will see that this inquiry is a nonsense.
I suppose you are a muty if you want to cheat in order to gain additional points? Or maybe abuse other players in multi games?
Feel free to check our games then and you will get your answer.

[Visigoth]

Lucky me I have some friends on this site who informed me about this surprising inquiry…☺
I am not please but I understand that for some bitter players this could be confused…
As a matter of clarification please note that my brother and I often play together but rarely against each other.
In addition, we almost never played together not being a team in the same game, because it could be unfair to other players. Hence you will note that we stick to team games.
Regarding being always connected at the same time, I do not think it is true. We interact a lot therefore we are often connected at the same time but not always… I have played many games with team players being connected at the same time and playing one after the other. This should not be a surprise for anybody.I dot think this break any rules.is it?
Somebody mentioned the flag. For me it will be Barbados (where I leave) and Belgium (this is my office satellite connection). Some of you may also have noticed some other flags such as St Lucia or St Vincent where I can play waiting at the airport while traveling… I got a question last time from a player who queried about this, so better being transparent ... Anyway travelling or playing from different computers is not against the rules. Is it?
To confuse you a bit more, by the way I am French. So is my brother, who is base over there, so is flag will be mostly France.
Last thing. You will note that we never take turn one for the other contrary to what is on-going at the moment on this site. This is cheating! Connecting to one’s account to play for him. Maybe this is what you should inquiry instead of bothering well regarded players of the website.
Even if I am really confused right now, note that I really enjoy playing onthis site. Therefore, I hope this insanity will come to an end soon.
Hope to play you again anytime Visigoth.

Thing is, i got suspectful because of razoget999 taking turns almost immediately after le_phenix, that's what got me a bit suspicious. And that is for mods to determinate if its a valid request or not,still i thank you for your explanation. And no, im not salty because you and your brother bested me on arms race, you played very well. Its just that i got confused and im not a computer/internet savvy fellow who can tell if you are somehow using a proxy or whatever, in that area i admit im not informed at all.

Would like to play against you after all of this is solved, and i will accept what mods dictaminate on this. Also, i've been playing in this site for years and has become one of my most cherished activities thru the whole day. So as i said, this is a first time for me and honestly didn't know what to do, so i was directed to this form.

[razoget999]

Things are fine with me. You do what you believe is right. I understand that.
I only want to point out that I do not see what bonus I would get form being a multi and playing 1vs1 game against you or somebody else. There is no limit in the number of game I can join… so what this the point?

[Le_Phenix]

Really Is this what you want to make of this website? Do you have any evidence to support this accusation?


At least you could have had the elegance of confronting us before going being our backs!

[Evil Semp]

Le_Phenix and razoget999 have been BUSTED.

[razoget999]

bulshit! what are the proof and how can we fight this. I will not let it go like this.

[Evil Semp]

bulshit! what are the proof and how can we fight this. I will not let it go like this.

Go to the help page and fill out an e-ticket which you can find under the help tab. You should have received an e-mail explaining the process.

[greenoaks]

busted, wow.

they said they are brothers and they were both premium so i guess the credit card info didn't support their claim.

[IcePack]

busted, wow.

they said they are brothers and they were both premium so i guess the credit card info didn't support their claim.

That can't be the only thing. If my brother wanted to play more I'd purchase his membership in a second.

[razoget999]

Feel free to check all our games. I have no clue how this is possible. From the e-mail I got it seems my little brother is kicked out because I used my credit card to pay for his membership... This is not a proof of multi account for me. Why is nobody checking the logs? Did we play together in order to abuse an other player? Never!
If we were a multi what would we habve gained from it? Again, please feel free to vrify all our games!

[greenoaks]

busted, wow.

they said they are brothers and they were both premium so i guess the credit card info didn't support their claim.

That can't be the only thing. If my brother wanted to play more I'd purchase his membership in a second.

but it is something to prove you are not multis

[chapcrap]

Feel free to check all our games. I have no clue how this is possible. From the e-mail I got it seems my little brother is kicked out because I used my credit card to pay for his membership... This is not a proof of multi account for me. Why is nobody checking the logs? Did we play together in order to abuse an other player? Never!
If we were a multi what would we habve gained from it? Again, please feel free to vrify all our games!

If you really aren't a multi, then you and your brother need to file an e-ticket. Posting here will get you no where.

[Visigoth]

Wow!!!

So it ended being true.... so sad....

[TheMoge]

Is it somehow against the rules to buy 2 memberships for 2 different people using the same credit card? I don't understand how that proves anything.

[Evil Semp]

Is it somehow against the rules to buy 2 memberships for 2 different people using the same credit card? I don't understand how that proves anything.

No it is not against the rules to buy two memberships if it was my wife and I would have been busted years ago. It is against the rules for one person to use both accounts.

[pascalleke]

nice work C&A team

[perchorin]

=D> nice work C&A team

As usual

[Visigoth]

Well done C&A team, yet somehow i feel bad... still, cheating is cheating and should not be allowed.

Thanks for looking into this case and for solving it quickly.