Dazza's 1st Mafia - Mafia Win

[codierose]

so how do you normally reach a lynch in day one from what i have seen so far its been lynch the non active or keep pressuring one guy until they claim which has normally been a lie

[Djfireside]

You reach a lynch by just pressuring people and causing havoc and trying to make sense of it later. Its like organized confusion and most of the time I have seen it where it got so twisted, it just became a no lynch. A lynch normally gives more details but No lynch gives night actions... each has its own benefit and downfall.

[edocsil]

You reach a lynch by just pressuring people and causing havoc and trying to make sense of it later. Its like organized confusion and most of the time I have seen it where it got so twisted, it just became a no lynch. A lynch normally gives more details but No lynch gives night actions... each has its own benefit and downfall.

Spot on. The only rule of the D1 is show no weakness. You will be slain for it.

[soundman]

You reach a lynch by just pressuring people and causing havoc and trying to make sense of it later. Its like organized confusion and most of the time I have seen it where it got so twisted, it just became a no lynch. A lynch normally gives more details but No lynch gives night actions... each has its own benefit and downfall.

Spot on. The only rule of the D1 is show no weakness. You will be slain for it.

And don't even think of suggesting a NL for the day! No matter how good your logic is, you will die.

Unvote My joke vote

[MoB Deadly]

catching up

[MoB Deadly]

I don't really have a position on WW right now. I just don't know.... One post that did stick out to me:

Page 6:

unvote vote Iron Butterfly for FOS on himself

Then now on this page:

On the other hand, it also "typical" mafia tactics (in my experience) to redirect the town. Mafia won't make the cases themselves, but throw out possibilities for others to catch in order to have their hands clean.

Er, that's unfortunate - it is in my nature to be very detail oriented, and ask lots of questions - not to redirect town away from scum, but to obtain the best results by engaging everyone in uncovering the truth... I take a very slow and deliberate approach to this, and although this is only my second Mafia game, I think my style settled in pretty quickly in my first Mafia game. So please keep this in mind as we go along - I will not compromise thoroughness in order to appear "more town", especially if hasty action leads to a quick lynch of a town player.

But the flip side of this is, I assume that you all are intelligent, thoughtful players... If anyone throws out something that is catchable, there is a reason it is catchable. We all read the same posts; I think we should consider all possibilities, and then select the best one. We can look back after a bit and see if there is a pattern that looks scummy, of course, but why limit the ideas from the start of the game?

Best intentions mean nothing a lot of times. What you think is catchable others may write off as nothing, while the opposite is also true. The simple fact is you may know your Town but no one else does. You may think you have the answer but if you cant get players to listen/beleive.

You will find out very quickly that if you are Town Mafia will know your Town and do their best to make you look bad with out drawing suspicion to themselves.

Your post comes across like you want everyone to beleive you are Town, which may be true but a person could also draw opposite conclusions.

How do you uncover the truth without knowing who is telling the truth?

thanks for this butterfly im finding this happening to me in other games could not understand why. i keep getting jumped on when i ask questions, agree with others even vote lol
unvote butterfly
now WWilliam i agree with what your saying here think im in the same games but cant say its the norm its the only games ive been in lol

In the (I believe) 3 games I have played. I have seen this happen a couple of times. 2 i think happened recently and in the same game. Eagleblade and ghostly both made comments regarding willing to follow someone else' direction. Both flipped scum.

Not only that but once I voted Eagle, he put an OMGUS vote on me, just like what is happening now.

So my vote will stay.

also there is no need for this

1) why are you being an ass?
2) why are you being so protective of pershy

IB clears something up for you and you vote him for it? I dont get it?
unvote vote codi

but I still want raston to clarify why I should have defended or claimed when I was at L-3 or L-2 earlier.

[soundman]

Um... Mob, he unvoted IB... I know, I was confused at first too. Thought it was a vote because he added the name.

[codierose]

Um... Mob, he unvoted IB... I know, I was confused at first too. Thought it was a vote because he added the name.

yep high lighted butterfly by mistake should have just the unvote for the joke vote

[MoB Deadly]

Um... Mob, he unvoted IB... I know, I was confused at first too. Thought it was a vote because he added the name.

yep high lighted butterfly by mistake should have just the unvote for the joke vote

oops I am blind apparently, I take it back codierose!

unvote

[wildwilliam]

1. I don't care for that language.

That is a smart reason to vote for someone. Sorry you don't like the word ass.

2. Mafia tend to have angry irrational responses when pushed. Iron Butterfly wasn't even really pushing you, just getting a jab in, and this is your response? You're either mafia, or need thicker skin.

Taking a line from Iron Buttryfly:

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When you say "[tend]" I am assuming you have specific examples to back this claim up?

Also I don't like jabs, and if you are offended by the word ass, then YOU need thicker skin. ass.

1) I am asking legitimate questions. You have a strong tendency to avoid legit questions, which does not mean you are scum BUT You made a judgment on someone as being scummy. I simply asked you to back up up your accusation.

I provided you with examples, can you do the same?

2) I am not protecting pershy. I am pointing out how you made a sweeping generalization.

That I backed up right after rushed in and tried to call me out.

3) No need for the language. Im getting tire of folks who when they cant defend their argument feel its ok to insult. Lets keep it civil please.

I am getting tired of folks you feel that can say whatever they please and not have anything said back to them. so you don;t throw the first stone, I don't throw one back, agreed?

[edocsil]

Heh. It's a stoning!!

[Iron Butterfly]

1. I don't care for that language.

That is a smart reason to vote for someone. Sorry you don't like the word ass.

2. Mafia tend to have angry irrational responses when pushed. Iron Butterfly wasn't even really pushing you, just getting a jab in, and this is your response? You're either mafia, or need thicker skin.

Taking a line from Iron Buttryfly:

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When you say "[tend]" I am assuming you have specific examples to back this claim up?

Also I don't like jabs, and if you are offended by the word ass, then YOU need thicker skin. ass.

1) I am asking legitimate questions. You have a strong tendency to avoid legit questions, which does not mean you are scum BUT You made a judgment on someone as being scummy. I simply asked you to back up up your accusation.

I provided you with examples, can you do the same?

2) I am not protecting pershy. I am pointing out how you made a sweeping generalization.

That I backed up right after rushed in and tried to call me out.

3) No need for the language. Im getting tire of folks who when they cant defend their argument feel its ok to insult. Lets keep it civil please.

I am getting tired of folks you feel that can say whatever they please and not have anything said back to them. so you don;t throw the first stone, I don't throw one back, agreed?

Typically
adjective

1.serving as a type; symbolic
2.having or showing the characteristics, qualities, etc. of a kind, class, or group so fully as to be a representative example
3.of or belonging to a type or representative example; characteristic

So after three games your able to use the word "typical"?
You have a three game history of avioding direct questions or of name calling in place of a rational defense. That is on the record. the first game you where lynched day one for acting like a fool by talking about poop. Your other game you reacted with this same behavior when pressured. This is the third game I have played with you.

You have no idea of what you are talking about in regards to what is or is not "typical" nor do you have the experience to pretend you do. Why the charade? Seems to be typical behavior on your part.

[edocsil]

Easy both of you, this is going nowhere. Compared to me your both fresh blood. Drop it and go elsewhere.

[Iron Butterfly]

Easy both of you, this is going nowhere. Compared to me your both fresh blood. Drop it and go elsewhere.

LOL true. But fun.

[Ragian]

Also, I'm quite sure that "typically" is an adverb (but that was prolly what you meant to write, I just wanted to lighten the tone a wee bit).

@MoB, I think raston is suffering from a cold or something. He was blabbering about it in the clan forum. I don't know what to make of it though. Mayhaps he's just a busy little bee...

Anyway, I don't think it's too harsh to pressure non-active players into at least contributing. Also, I feel a D1 lynch helps the town unless town has an abundance of investigative roles carried out by some shrewd players who know whom to look at/track or what have you.

If we don't lynch on D1, we may end up with nothing to go on D2 either...

[dazza2008]

Vote Count

MoB Deadly(2) - edocsil, Raston_Morue
Ragian(1) - wildwilliam
wildwilliam(2) - pershy, Nebuchadnezer
Raston_Morue(1) - catnipdeams

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: 8th Feb 10pm GMT

[pershy]

Wow - all quiet on the western front in the last 24 hours. Ironb is at least putting some contributions forward that make sense.
I'm still leaning towards William. Mainly because he jumped on me and then accused someone of protecting me. As I know that's not the case I found it scummy so my vote stands for now.

[dazza2008]

I need a replacelment for Raston_Morue. He has asked to be replaced.

[edocsil]

Wow - all quiet on the western front in the last 24 hours. Ironb is at least putting some contributions forward that make sense.
I'm still leaning towards William. Mainly because he jumped on me and then accused someone of protecting me. As I know that's not the case I found it scummy so my vote stands for now.

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That's called OMGUS.

[pershy]

Why is that?

[Djfireside]

Yeah I would tend to agree on the OMGUS statement. Granted its the joke vote round but doesnt change that fact.

[pershy]

OMGUS - originally coined by a mafia player as an emotional way of getting people to vote that person. Just so u are aware. My point was that it's suspicious at this stage to say one player is protecting another with such little evidence. OMG u guys suck

[Ragian]

I need a replacelment for Raston_Morue. He has asked to be replaced.

Do you want suggestions?

[dazza2008]

I need a replacelment for Raston_Morue. He has asked to be replaced.

Do you want suggestions?

If you know someone ask them.

I just really posted it so you guys know the situation. I have posted in the replacement thread.

[Ragian]

I need a replacelment for Raston_Morue. He has asked to be replaced.

Do you want suggestions?

If you know someone ask them.

I just really posted it so you guys know the situation. I have posted in the replacement thread.

Alright, cool.