Dazza's 1st Mafia - Mafia Win

[codierose]

cool cheers
does anyone else think the quick votes on me seem scummy or is it just me thought i was just asking normal question to someone that was acting possibly defensive didn't think it was that much of a deal otherwise i would have voted for her. Pershy you also posted same time as me saying she was being defensive but your not scummy i am your vote is some what week and just following IBs lead now thats scummy if i ever seen it
for that case i vote pershy
@ IB not avoiding your case will come to that when i get home

[Iron Butterfly]

Fastposted by Iron Butterfly.

sorry what does this mean
how this all got turned on me baffles me but i will respond when i bet home on my computer
@pershy you like to fos one way and vote another anyways will respond in a couple of hours

Nothing has been turned. I just pointed out that if you beleive someone is guilty or not guilty say so. Your post implies skummy behavior or outright guilt on several people BUT you hedge it and ask for other people to make the call.

If your going to make a case..make a case. Dont make one and then hide behind, "Im really not sure..what does everyone else thinkl"

What gets me is that you imply that I look suspicious defending Cat, while at the same time you give Cod an alibi to explain his behavior if he does turn out to be Mafia.

[Iron Butterfly]

Fastposted by Iron Butterfly.

sorry what does this mean
how this all got turned on me baffles me but i will respond when i bet home on my computer
@pershy you like to fos one way and vote another anyways will respond in a couple of hours

Nothing has been turned. I just pointed out that if you beleive someone is guilty or not guilty say so. Your post implies skummy behavior or outright guilt on several people BUT you hedge it and ask for other people to make the call.

If your going to make a case..make a case. Dont make one and then hide behind, "Im really not sure..what does everyone else thinkl"

What gets me is that you imply that I look suspicious defending Cat, while at the same time you give Cod an alibi to explain his behavior if he does turn out to be Mafia.

Ignore the above Cod...LOL I am Mafiad out...I thought I was responding to Tenbar...Im starting to confuse players and games now...*grin* I still find your post on Cat skummy though

[codierose]

i did not intend to fos on my first post i was just actually saying did that kill him then cat assumed i pointed fos on her so i let her go with it possibly my bad for doing so but you got to admit cat did look defensive and suspicious. Also i did not vote for her for that reason there was no real case i think at the time she just put pressure on herself i did also say that at the time

[soundman]

This is probably the best Day 2 I've ever been a part of. Three cases!

Codie - The case on him is all based on his first post where he asked if Edocsil died because of the hot seat comment. I find it slightly scummy that he only posted one line with the intent (at least is looks that way) of throwing suspicion on Cat. Without a vote of FOS it looks to me like he is trying to get a wagon started without being the first voter and hence hopefully avoiding pressure later if Cat turns out to be town. Also above he comments asking if anyone else thinks all the quick votes on him are scummy when in fact there are only two votes on him and both came after quite a bit of discussion.

Cat - I thought Cat jumped to the defensive really quick. Third post and not a single vote or FOS against her. Seems like she's pretty nervous about any attention thrown her way.

Pershy - Non-committal and follow the leader. Suspicious. However I've never played with him before so don't know if that's his normal playing style or not. I think Neb made a really good case against him and Pershy should be looked at.

I think any one of these could be chosen for pressure. Putting them in order of who's the most scummy I'd line them up like this: Codie, Pershy, Cat. It's a close one between Codie and Pershy but Codie seems to be acting slightly more scummy. If the case against him falls apart then I say we pressure Pershy.
Vote Codierose

[pershy]

cool cheers
does anyone else think the quick votes on me seem scummy or is it just me thought i was just asking normal question to someone that was acting possibly defensive didn't think it was that much of a deal otherwise i would have voted for her. Pershy you also posted same time as me saying she was being defensive but your not scummy i am your vote is some what week and just following IBs lead now thats scummy if i ever seen it
for that case i vote pershy
@ IB not avoiding your case will come to that when i get home

Just applying pressure buddy - a lead was presented so I figured it's worth following for now to generate conversation which it has

[codierose]

This is probably the best Day 2 I've ever been a part of. Three cases!
Codie - The case on him is all based on his first post where he asked if Edocsil died because of the hot seat comment. I find it slightly scummy that he only posted one line with the intent (at least is looks that way) of throwing suspicion on Cat. Without a vote of FOS it looks to me like he is trying to get a wagon started without being the first voter and hence hopefully avoiding pressure later if Cat turns out to be town. Also above he comments asking if anyone else thinks all the quick votes on him are scummy when in fact there are only two votes on him and both came after quite a bit of discussion.
Vote Codierose

really based on a one line quote that i have explained you are looking way to much into this getting a tad pissed off with these games day 2 lynch the guy that post first happened to me in 2 other games from experienced mafia players same thing again here your scumdar is way off oh and btw i got lynched twice other games and town lost a doctor and cop go figure and i wonder who ended up scum

[dazza2008]

Vote Count

codierose(3) - Iron Butterfly, pershy, soundman
pershy(2) - Nebuchadnezer, codierose

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[tenbar]

as i said, it is cod or cat for me right now.

vote cod

[codierose]

Allright, we are making progress.

Stop fogging you silly Dane or i am gonna FOS ya (HUUUUUGE HUGS!)

Cod was mighty fast on cat, which usually points to one of two things: scum looking to start a frenzy, or knowledge based on a nightime investigation.

Could go either way in my books. Cat claims some kind of town, But we dont know about cod yet. We are heading towards forcing a claim from him...is this we want?

Worth noting too that inna-gadda-da-vida jumped quickly to cat's defense...could be a scummate protecting his own. Not saying for sure, just pointing ot that we need to keep this in mind for when we find out what cat is.


I think we got cat or cod at this point, as they are likely on opposite sides...but which one?

you started off with good argument now you changed you mind following the scum lead like you said on opposite sides but which one so you went with follow the leader
was hoping not to claim but hell loads are submarining as per norm like every game
i am town cop
n1 investigation was cat due to hammer and edocs post and yes the reason for my first post hoping somebody else would pick up on it. Guess not.
you hit nail on head tenbar but yet forced me to claim well done anyway cat result is guilty what have you got to say for yourself cat?
also i will need protecting tonight at least we should have a few scum tells from all this shit

[catnipdreams]

you started off with good argument now you changed you mind following the scum lead like you said on opposite sides but which one so you went with follow the leader
was hoping not to claim but hell loads are submarining as per norm like every game
i am town cop
n1 investigation was cat due to hammer and edocs post and yes the reason for my first post hoping somebody else would pick up on it. Guess not.
you hit nail on head tenbar but yet forced me to claim well done anyway cat result is guilty what have you got to say for yourself cat?
also i will need protecting tonight at least we should have a few scum tells from all this shit

Since I am Town, you are lying! unvote vote codierose

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well...this is quite the development! Codie, I was beginning to think you were mafia myself, the way you jumped on my case immediately. I was starting to think that you were just voting with me to get the group to go on Pershy and take the heat off of you. I'll hold off judgement to see if there is a counter claim. If there is no counter claim, then we must go Catnip. After looking at some of her posts, I could easily make a case against her...

Good news is, I won't have to, if there is no counterclaim!

Catnip...I was hoping for more of a post from you. Of course, if you're guilty, what can you say? Right?

[Nebuchadnezer]

And please! Someone unvote for crying out loud!!!

[codierose]

cat you putting me on l1 confirms it i was willing to give you benefit of dought last time i was cop i had a wrong investigations

[catnipdreams]

Catnip...I was hoping for more of a post from you. Of course, if you're guilty, what can you say? Right?

Um, what am I supposed to say? I thought I was kind of getting the hang of playing this game, but perhaps not... I could fully claim my role, but then it is my claim against a fake claim, and my role becomes known. Does town really want my role known? If so, I am willing to fully claim, but I'd want a large number of players requesting that I do so. Sorry, but I just don't have the game experience to know when claiming is ok and when one should not claim; I guess it is role dependent, as well.

Also, since codierose IS lying, there must be a real town cop here... I suppose it's a bit much to expect that the real town cop investigated me, but maybe?? Or perhaps someone investigated codierose? At any rate, if Town lynches me, I WILL flip town, and at least then codierose can be lynched the next day, but it would be a lot better to just lynch codierose now, and not needlessly weaken Town numbers...

[catnipdreams]

cat you putting me on l1 confirms it i was willing to give you benefit of dought last time i was cop i had a wrong investigations

You are lying! Of course I am voting for you!

[Iron Butterfly]

Unvote Cod

One of them is lieing. Duh

if Cat flips Mafia I will feel stupid. BUT if she is Mafia it makes perfect sense as well. She is new and did not know about the reprecussions from hammering.

What I find hard to beleive though is that if Cat is Mafia how could Mafia not know Cat would be the Target of a lynch if Edocil is killed? They would be better served killing someone else and Cat would have an easier time defending.

It boils down to who we beleive. I am leary of Cods claim simply because of the post Tenbar made. tenbar has been quiet since his post defending Cods action.

While I am leaning more towards Cod. I think everyone will be better served to let them hash it out. A lot can be leraned from what is not said by others. The good news is we have one killer trapped between the two.

Cod I kindly ask that you be aware of how you write your ideas and arguments. They are very hard to understand at times.
Cat needs a better defense then You lie.

Let the fun begin

[MoB Deadly]

catching up from page 13

[MoB Deadly]

Okay - The result, they BOTH look scummy, but are on opposite sides.

Cat - If she is new to being part of the mafia, she wouldn't know the repercussions of hammering. I could see this happening. Also got defensive.

Codie - Jumped out of the gate on her. Could be the gameplan mafia talked about overnight. Also a scumslip mistake. OR. he was really excited about his investigation and couldnt hold it in. who knows. ALSO - if you got a guilty result why on earth would u switch your vote to Pershy. that makes zero sense. You deflected because you were getting pressured.

Pershy - Noted for future reference.

No matter how scummy the cop looks, I gotta go with him until there is a counter claim.

vote cat - we will need a claim from you.

[codierose]

Unvote Cod


Cod I kindly ask that you be aware of how you write your ideas and arguments. They are very hard to understand at times.
Cat needs a better defense then You lie.

Let the fun begin

sorry about my posting i did say earlier my writing skills are piss poor and im new at these games but i thought my first post was quite a good one but then my second post questioning cat was very poor i did wish i let someone else quiz it
mob i was trying to get more scum to show there faces and pershy certainly did at the time so we could end up with 2 3 scum for the price of 1

[codierose]

mob the other reason was that i thought cat could have been framed i saw that in another game thats why i only put the one liner there for my first post just to see reactions the more i think about it my second post was a really noob post
sorry for the double post

[Iron Butterfly]

Okay - The result, they BOTH look scummy, but are on opposite sides.

Cat - If she is new to being part of the mafia, she wouldn't know the repercussions of hammering. I could see this happening. Also got defensive.

Codie - Jumped out of the gate on her. Could be the gameplan mafia talked about overnight. Also a scumslip mistake. OR. he was really excited about his investigation and couldnt hold it in. who knows. ALSO - if you got a guilty result why on earth would u switch your vote to Pershy. that makes zero sense. You deflected because you were getting pressured.

Pershy - Noted for future reference.

No matter how scummy the cop looks, I gotta go with him until there is a counter claim.

vote cat - we will need a claim from you.

NO! Why would we need a claim from her? We already have a 50 50 shot. If we vote Cod and he is guilty youve exposed a possible power role. we have eleven people left, which means there are at least 3 mafia left. if She claims and claims VT they work around her. if she claims a power role she puts a target on her.

If she is mafia she will lie...if she is town and claims that would only help mafia to decide who to nightkill.

I have read her argument and I find her beleivable. In fact if she flips scum you can lynch me next round..THATS how sure I am.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Codierose...it's called punctuation. It not only will make it easier for us to read your posts...it will also make you come across better. I beg you to use punctuation. Please!

[catnipdreams]

As I said, I will claim, if it's appropriate to do so, but it will expose my role. You all don't have to vote for me, and risk scum voting to lynch me before I can claim; I'd just like to make sure this is the right thing to do. In my first mafia game, there was a lot of discussion about whether certain Town players should claim or not. It was kind of confusing for a new player, and add in that some of the players were scum, and some were town, I couldn't tell what was valid information about how to play, and what was not.

Something that I really don't like here:

cat you putting me on l1 confirms it i was willing to give you benefit of dought last time i was cop i had a wrong investigations

Notice how codierose is setting it up so that if I do end up being lynched, when I flip town, he can say, oops, I got a wrong investigation again. So sorry.

[MoB Deadly]

mob the other reason was that i thought cat could have been framed i saw that in another game thats why i only put the one liner there for my first post just to see reactions the more i think about it my second post was a really noob post
sorry for the double post

thats true actually, she probably WAS framed if there was one. Thats why you dont jump out of the gate and put suspicion on her, especially if you are a cop with a guilty result.

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NO! Why would we need a claim from her? We already have a 50 50 shot. If we vote Cod and he is guilty youve exposed a possible power role. we have eleven people left, which means there are at least 3 mafia left. if She claims and claims VT they work around her. if she claims a power role she puts a target on her.

If she is mafia she will lie...if she is town and claims that would only help mafia to decide who to nightkill.

I have read her argument and I find her beleivable. In fact if she flips scum you can lynch me next round..THATS how sure I am.

Yeah I find her argument believeable as well.... but how can you justify lynching a possible cop without a counterclaim. Im not saying I'm refusing to vote him, but I will certainly need some persuading to do that. Ive been 99.99% someone is scum before and they were town, I am not trying to go by arguments here but claims.