Dazza's 1st Mafia - Mafia Win

[codierose]

i agree to not sure about pershy he's been active a but scummy day 2 Thats why i voted for him.
I would like to see more pressure on clever he's lurking Alot very active in other game completely inactive here,

[codierose]

i agree to not sure about pershy he's been active a but scummy day 2 Thats why i voted for him.
I would like to see more pressure on clever he's lurking Alot very active in other game completely inactive here,

and there's mob an experienced mafia player seems to be totaly submarining my vote is with him right now
vote mob

[tenbar]

things are heating up now. lovin it.

so my guess on ragian's death is that it was a busdriving. dazz may even have been providing a hint when he mentioned that rager got off the "bus" to get home. i know dazz. he is twisted that way. and he is probably feeling especially twisted given what happened with rangers yesterday.

as for cod's results, i dont think we can act on them until we have gonna a day without the framer. tomorrow his results count.

so where do we go from here? i agree that pershy is worthy of a little pressure.

vote pershy

but he SHOULD NOT BE HAMMERED...we just want a claim from him at this stage.

in my books cod is cleared until tomorrow, and i think nebu is probably town. IB we wont know until we hear back on cod's result tomorrow. everyone else i am still trying to figure out.

hoping we have a doc to get us there...

[Nebuchadnezer]

Wahoo! Just when I go and hammer the townie, the busdriver comes along and totally redeems me! (My MVP vote goes to the busdriver...great play!)

So, we're all assuming it's a busdriver, and it makes sense, I guess. I'd be curious as to who was targeted, as that person would be deemed cleared, right? At this point, Codierose and the person bused last night are clear.

I'm willing to let people go off on tangents and try to shake down some mafia, however...

Let's not ignore codie's results. Okay, night one was a bit easy for mafia to target cat based on the hammer. However, night 2 was so random, that for the framer to target Iron seems to be a bit suspect. I will make the proper case at the proper time.

For now, we can fish for mafia...but I will be voting for Iron, no matter what (well, I guess he could claim doc and I'd back off...)

[MoB Deadly]

i agree to not sure about pershy he's been active a but scummy day 2 Thats why i voted for him.
I would like to see more pressure on clever he's lurking Alot very active in other game completely inactive here,

and there's mob an experienced mafia player seems to be totaly submarining my vote is with him right now
vote mob

Yes, I have no excuse, I have been extremely busy with management changes at work and I have been equally busy at home. As a result I stopped signing up for all new games. There is not much I can do at this point but apologize.

--- As for the investigation. My vote DEFINITELY goes to vote iron butterfly

Reasons: IB was extremely favoring lynching Codie yesterday. That is just not smart without a counterclaim. With a framer in the midst, their best play was to frame cat. I am very confident that is what happened.

A Framer + a paranoid cop would not make sense at all.

As kills execute last, the framer did get one last frame off before he died. Huge Hugs.

IB can't keep going after our claimed cop, with a guilty result against him, without at least making him claim. Thats unreasonable.

[Nebuchadnezer]

i agree to not sure about pershy he's been active a but scummy day 2 Thats why i voted for him.
I would like to see more pressure on clever he's lurking Alot very active in other game completely inactive here,

and there's mob an experienced mafia player seems to be totaly submarining my vote is with him right now
vote mob

Yes, I have no excuse, I have been extremely busy with management changes at work and I have been equally busy at home. As a result I stopped signing up for all new games. There is not much I can do at this point but apologize.

--- As for the investigation. My vote DEFINITELY goes to vote iron butterfly

Reasons: IB was extremely favoring lynching Codie yesterday. That is just not smart without a counterclaim. With a framer in the midst, their best play was to frame cat. I am very confident that is what happened.

A Framer + a paranoid cop would not make sense at all.

As kills execute last, the framer did get one last frame off before he died. Huge Hugs.

IB can't keep going after our claimed cop, with a guilty result against him, without at least making him claim. Thats unreasonable.

Well, if this is where it has to happen, this is where it has to happen...

VOTE IRON BUTTERFLY

Why bother waiting...I'm going to vote for him anyway, so let's just see what he has to claim. I could make a very long, extensive and condemning case against him, but let's face it, codie got a "guilty" verdict. If I couldnt' get past cat's verdict, I'm not going to get past this one.

[codierose]

@mob RL sucks
whats the chances ragian framed IB possibly im not sure. i gave a list of whom i might investigate hoping they would get framed and not the person i was actually going to investigate i will go with my guilty result until there's proof
unvote vote IB

[Iron Butterfly]

i agree to not sure about pershy he's been active a but scummy day 2 Thats why i voted for him.
I would like to see more pressure on clever he's lurking Alot very active in other game completely inactive here,

and there's mob an experienced mafia player seems to be totaly submarining my vote is with him right now
vote mob

Yes, I have no excuse, I have been extremely busy with management changes at work and I have been equally busy at home. As a result I stopped signing up for all new games. There is not much I can do at this point but apologize.

--- As for the investigation. My vote DEFINITELY goes to vote iron butterfly

Reasons: IB was extremely favoring lynching Codie yesterday. That is just not smart without a counterclaim. With a framer in the midst, their best play was to frame cat. I am very confident that is what happened.

A Framer + a paranoid cop would not make sense at all.

As kills execute last, the framer did get one last frame off before he died. Huge Hugs.

IB can't keep going after our claimed cop, with a guilty result against him, without at least making him claim. Thats unreasonable.

If you would bother to read you will see that my arguments have changed over time. I have a right to look at all arguments. While I have been highly suspicious of Cod and would have chosen Cat over Cod. I am open that he may be Town but Paranoid or perhaps the framer got one last shot. You can not argue that he could not get one last "frame" in and that I would be a prime target considering all events.
You come in after not participating and produce an argument that says I should be lynched. If you consider me guilty I would think I would be a prime target for "framimg" considering what happened to poor Cat. I was the one who defended her and was willing to question Cod. I turned out to be 100%right about Cat

Unlike you I have actually contributed to the discussion and been willing to put myself out there.While real life is always a great excuse to not participate in discussion it doesnt change the fact that you have been sudmarining, which is always scummy in my book.

So Tell me then if you lynch me and I turn out Town what would be your strategy be then? Obviously there will will have had been not one but two guilty investigations proven wrong by Cod. So lets play make beleive for a bit.

[dazza2008]

Vote Count

Iron Butterfly(4) - pershy, MoB Deadly, Nebuchadnezer, codierose L-1
pershy(1) - tenbar

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[tenbar]

IB, you are at L-1, time to claim...

[Iron Butterfly]

I am Vanilla Towny

Unlike others I like the challange of playing a VT. I am expendable so like to shake things up and scum hunt. If I am Lynched I am comforted in having had a hand in exposing WW

Everyone can not be the bad guy voting for me LOL... But I garuntee there is at least one in my band wagon.

If I am hammered I will turn Town you need to look at Mob and Pershy as both add nothing except to come in and bandwagon vote. I find Nebs vote to lynch curious as he was the first to build a case against Pershy. Mafia does not make thenselves as vocal as I.

[MoB Deadly]

You come in after not participating and produce an argument that says I should be lynched. If you consider me guilty I would think I would be a prime target for "framimg" considering what happened to poor Cat. I was the one who defended her and was willing to question Cod. I turned out to be 100%right about Cat

Okay let's look at this, who else could of Rage framed last night? IB is a pretty good choice but I dont know. Rage is a pro framer if he got both cop investigations.

[codierose]

where is soundman and clever dazz can we have a prod please

[Iron Butterfly]

now its because she's new and your gut looks to me like sum defending your scum m8 like you did at the beginning of the day and if i remember correctly you started all the pressure on me if i survive i will be investigating you for sure.
firstly i never did jump on cat i posted a one line sentence you jumping to assumptions
did tenbar not vote for me if he gave me alibi i must have faked claimed so where's the counter claim.
Point 3 counter claim where is it
point 4 is the truth check my other game italian mafia still active
she is guilty in my investigation all i can say what is in my pm if its wrong there's only one reason for it either way i have to go with guilty unless theres proof she's not.
unvote vote cat

Cod pretty much gave rage an open invitation to investigate me so its not some random role of the CC dice to see who gets framed.
I do not beleive Cod is Mafia as I would think a cop would have stepped forward by now. No reason mot to as we have two nad guys down.

[codierose]

unvote
i want the two MIA to add something to this case or im going to vote for one of them

[pershy]

If you noticed, when Neb made his Ultimatum of how anyone who keeps their vote on Cod should be considered mafia I kept my vote out of principle and refused to vote Cat. Pershy was the first to remove his vote

That had NOTHING to do with it! To remove ones vote from the claimed cop is the only sensible play - until someone counters which they didn't.

If I am hammered I will turn Town you need to look at Mob and Pershy as both add nothing except to come in and bandwagon vote.

and this argument is bull. I have put forward many theories and was the first to FOS and vote our poisoner I believe. First IB accuses me of being suspicious for bandwagoning and then he says I'm suspicious for voting him first. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! I am now very suspicious of IB!

As for Mob, I don't know about him but he said something I agree with - especially about the cop towards the end of his post

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=162427&p=3599600&hilit=vote+Iron+Butterfly#p3599600

[pershy]

As for the bus driver theory - it makes sense. At first I thought that it didn't make sense that he killed himself so I thought of a vig, but now it makes total sense that he could have been bus driven and that's why he bought it. Normally the scenes don't mention bus driving in my experience.

[Iron Butterfly]

If you noticed, when Neb made his Ultimatum of how anyone who keeps their vote on Cod should be considered mafia I kept my vote out of principle and refused to vote Cat. Pershy was the first to remove his vote

That had NOTHING to do with it! To remove ones vote from the claimed cop is the only sensible play - until someone counters which they didn't.

If I am hammered I will turn Town you need to look at Mob and Pershy as both add nothing except to come in and bandwagon vote.

and this argument is bull. I have put forward many theories and was the first to FOS and vote our poisoner I believe. First IB accuses me of being suspicious for bandwagoning and then he says I'm suspicious for voting him first. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! I am now very suspicious of IB!

As for Mob, I don't know about him but he said something I agree with - especially about the cop towards the end of his post

viewtopic.php?f=213&t=162427&p=3599600&hilit=vote+Iron+Butterfly#p3599600

I said that if Cat turned mafia I would let town lynch me..I was so sure. So if you think my claim of Town is bs then step up and put your moany where your mouth is. If I turn Town will you be willing to be lynched. I mean you are so sure Im lieing right. Fummy how you only seem to offer comments when someone is being bandwagoned.

[pershy]

Touchy.
I'm not sure, that's the problem. It would help to have more info on codi's abilities and results. After another night we could probably be clearer on this. At least the framer is out of the way so we may be getting correct results from him. Still lots of variables to consider actually and they've all been mentioned already.

Don't quite understand your last comment about bandwagoning. I don't think I can be accused of that.

[Iron Butterfly]

Touchy.
I'm not sure, that's the problem. It would help to have more info on codi's abilities and results. After another night we could probably be clearer on this. At least the framer is out of the way so we may be getting correct results from him. Still lots of variables to consider actually and they've all been mentioned already.

Don't quite understand your last comment about bandwagoning. I don't think I can be accused of that.

Touchy? LOL nope just making a bet and seeing if your willing to put your neck on the line if you beleive so strongly in my guilt.

I am an easy target because I have been actively participating in this game. My biggest crime seems to be that I did not beleive that Cod was the Cop.

If I flip Town that will be two investigations where Cod's results have lynched a Town person. After the fact everyone will say GEE I guess the framer got him. Then what? If I flip Town, who would be the most likely to be scum?

Everyone can not be Town BUT there are at least two possibly three more mafia out there. I have no problem being lynched as that is how I play Vanilla Town. I beleive there is enough in the game chat to form some strong cases.

Mob Deadly should definately be looked at as he has been the invisible man. I dont think Cod will have trouble with further investigations lol but he will have a bullseye on his back tonight.

[codierose]

mob clever or soundman
my votes with soundman right now

[tenbar]

Soundman is in the forum...let's hear from you dude...

[soundman]

where is soundman and clever dazz can we have a prod please

unvote
i want the two MIA to add something to this case or im going to vote for one of them

mob clever or soundman
my votes with soundman right now

Sorry. It's been a super busy week for me and when I finally had time there was nothing to add since we needed to wait for IB's claim.

I don't think we should lynch IB just yet. There is a chance that the framer got him. If later down the line we run out of leads then we can come back. Out of all the players I think Mob and Pershy are the scummiest. Mob has rarely posted and that's just not like him at all. That to me is scummy. Vote Mob

[soundman]

Soundman is in the forum...let's hear from you dude...

Making dinner and posting at the same time. Takes longer to get the post put together.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Iron, I still suspect you're guilty. Codie's investigation says so.

However, you benefit from the fact that CLEVER has said absolutely nothing in this game.

I'm tired of his not contribution anything to this game. He's plenty active in all his other games...yet not one post here.

Iron gets the benefit of the 1% of doubt that I have about the framers chance of targeting him (well, actually its about 10%...)

UNVOTE VOTE SOME7HING CLEVER