Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!

[spiesr]

Spiesr do you have a specific way to verify claim when someone does? There is no way to catch someone in a lie. the ONLy way is if someone claims the same exact role, which is highly unlikely probability wise. For all we know we could have 5 docs or all VT

I don't have any specific solution. We are just going to have to really look at each claim and analyze them to the best of our ability. We can't accept a claim to be true just because the person claims something that actually exists. We can't always just make a person claim and move on. We have to decide if we believe them or not. At some point we have to not believe someone and go ahead and lynch them.

[rishaed]

I agree, I went through and added up all the roles in every game listed, and they were around 533, so twenty over what Jonty gave us. It is quite possible that he pulled from other games as well and just didn't list them.

[Kanin Usagi]

I agree, I went through and added up all the roles in every game listed, and they were around 533, so twenty over what Jonty gave us. It is quite possible that he pulled from other games as well and just didn't list them.

Its likely that he may have removed a few roles as well, especially extremely over powered ones (cough*mod*cough).

I would like Jonty to tell us whether or not Battle of the Bulge should have been on the list and he forgot to put it on there. If it was not supposed to be on the list, then I would like a lynch of Doom for lying (as he shouldn't have that role then.)

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well I guess I will claim.

I am Lt.Gen. M.G.H. Barker, Vanilla Townie (Battle of Bulge). My play so far has been to put enough focus on me that I would draw mafia's kill, which is also why I didn't want to claim yesterday. We're still not 100% sure if that worked, although it looks like my plan failed

I'm not sure who I find scummiest at this point though. Iron's last post seemed interesting in his conclusions about Neb, but obviously I agree with his attitude about Hank. And honestly, it shouldn't be scummy to wonder why the rules aren't being followed... I guess mafia might worry about that, but I know that if I were mafia, I would still ask the same question.

Interesting that the Battle of the Bulge game was not listed in Jonty's list. It was started and "finished" in 2012, although it was abandoned rather than completed, so I am not sure if this is just a mistake on Jonty's part, or a sign of something else.
For the claim itself I am not yet sure if I should believe it or not.

Interesting indeed! Good catch. I'll keep my vote where it is, and at worst, we kill a VT.

[jonty125]

I can confirm, that, the list on the first page, is completely accurate.

[DoomYoshi]

vote doom. For being too stupid to check the list.

[rishaed]

unvote VOTE DOOM.
For once I have been right in calling someone scum ^.^. Now lets keep it that way.

[jonty125]

VOTE COUNT
DoomYoshi (4) - spieser; Nebuchadnezar; Doom Yoshi; rishaed;
Nebuchadnezar (1) - Iron Butterfly;

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday 9th February @ 1000 GMT. If the vote count were to remain as so, until deadline, DoomYoshi will be lynched.

Prod sent to [player]thechuck51[/player]

[jonty125]

The Gods of Random, had given Hank44Soccer enough leeway, but his time was up. The bolt of lightning showed no mercy and Hank44Soccer, ceased to be.

Hank44Soccer - Julia (Town Doctor) has been modkilled.

[rishaed]

Well that's wonderful, Our Doc gets Modkilled. . . definitely a waste in my opinion, but If he wasn't here to check and repost then that's his own fault for deleting it in the first place.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well, sometimes the simplest answer is the best.

No townie will push for a mod kill on a claimed doctor for rule infringement.

Iron looks really bad in my mind right now...he came up with every excuse in the book as to why we shouldn't lynch Doom. Usually, townies are skeptical of everything. Usually, we don't try to justify someone's scummy play. I'm a little shocked that he decided to attack me rather than the obvious case in front of us.

Let's just lynch Doom and move on. Here's hoping tonight goes as well as last night did!

[rishaed]

Here's to hopefully hitting the GF!

[Kanin Usagi]

Vote doom!

[spiesr]

Do we have anything else we need to discuss before the hammer is dropped?

[rishaed]

hmm, not really with our doc gone, I might get lucky again, however Broadcasting who I'm going to protect is not a smart move right now. If anything Edoc is probably town (I'd give it a 90-95% shot). Its pretty well confirmed in my eyes from two things, His initial reaction after I claimed, and what happened last night (Hank Doc'd me, I protected Edoc). These two things make me sure that he is town. Another thing is if we have a cop I would suggest cop'ing PCM tonight. He defended Doom indirectly D1 after Edoc's post. I'll probably do something like this with my take on things as long as I'm alive, since I live to die so to speak.

[gregwolf121]

im willing to drop the hammer if we have nothing left to discuss

[Iron Butterfly]

Vote Doom

[DoomYoshi]

Well, sometimes the simplest answer is the best.

No townie will push for a mod kill on a claimed doctor for rule infringement.

Iron looks really bad in my mind right now...he came up with every excuse in the book as to why we shouldn't lynch Doom. Usually, townies are skeptical of everything. Usually, we don't try to justify someone's scummy play. I'm a little shocked that he decided to attack me rather than the obvious case in front of us.

Let's just lynch Doom and move on. Here's hoping tonight goes as well as last night did!

That's not true, I always push for modkills if I can.

Keeping people alive is a waste of time. Cop results are bullshit, watchers and trackers are a waste. All that tells you anything is when people flip.

Just an aside.

[gregwolf121]

guess its not needed

[rishaed]

lol you can throw in your vote for good measure

[rishaed]

Though I must say the quickhammer from IB, when we were waiting if there was anything else was unexpected.

[pancakemix]

Though I must say the quickhammer from IB, when we were waiting if there was anything else was unexpected.

Wait for what, exactly? I would've come in and hammered if I had been here.

[rishaed]

im willing to drop the hammer if we have nothing left to discuss

We were checking if there was any other input for people, before the hammer was dropped. I know I put in my 2 cents, but it doesn't take much to read a coupla posts above you

[spiesr]

im willing to drop the hammer if we have nothing left to discuss

We were checking if there was any other input for people, before the hammer was dropped. I know I put in my 2 cents, but it doesn't take much to read a coupla posts above you

I suppose the question is what exactly weer we expecting anyone to be able to add at this point?

[thechuck51]

prod received. sorry for my inactivity. i will try and be more active in the future.

has there been enough votes for a lynch? I agree with whoever said he is worth lynch as worst case scenario we lynch a VT