From the "Start a Game" screen, create an option whereby users can choose from the drop-down menu, or, alternately select from one of several 'themed' drop-down menus which would group maps of a common type: Historic, Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Abstract.
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I just gave them.
How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
There are some ungodly number of maps now - I think like two or three hundred. I only play Historic maps but it's really hard to find new ones when I have to sludge through Patch Wars and the like. New maps are being created all the time that I never see.
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
So in your mind, does each map belong to only one category, or can there be overlap? The former is easier to draw up sets for and implement, but it's not necessarily the most general way to do this.
Metsfanmax wrote:So in your mind, does each map belong to only one category, or can there be overlap? The former is easier to draw up sets for and implement, but it's not necessarily the most general way to do this.
ONE CATEGORY!
cross-category maps would only minimize the problem, not resolve it
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
Ok. I am fine with this idea in principle. To make this go forward, we need two things: a complete list of suggested categories and the maps that belong to them, and an idea for how we could add this to start a game/game finder without cluttering it up too much.
Couldn't we rather have a sort of "map finder" where you can choose from various categories, such as: - Theme (this is your proposed category: historical, cities, etc..) - Size small, medium, large) - Bombardments: yes/no - Objectives: yes/no ....
Couldn't we rather have a sort of "map finder" where you can choose from various categories, such as: - Theme (this is your proposed category: historical, cities, etc..) - Size
small (<40 terts)
medium (40 <= terts < 80)
large (>=80 terts)
- Bombardments: yes/no - Objectives: yes/no ....
Ideally, you would be able to select random within your set of choices but that is more difficult
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D4 Damager wrote:Couldn't we rather have a sort of "map finder" where you can choose from various categories, such as: - Theme (this is your proposed category: historical, cities, etc..) - Size
small (<40 terts)
medium (40 <= terts < 80)
large (>=80 terts)
- Bombardments: yes/no - Objectives: yes/no ....
Ideally, you would be able to select random within your set of choices but that is more difficult
In other words, have a map filter within a game filter? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of making map selection easier?
Metsfanmax wrote:Ok. I am fine with this idea in principle. To make this go forward, we need two things: a complete list of suggested categories and the maps that belong to them, and an idea for how we could add this to start a game/game finder without cluttering it up too much.
I don't do heavy lifting, just big picture stuff. I'm gonna delegate this to bbs.
Bbs, please get this taken care of by eow next week. If you need an assistant, feel free to use Aog.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
Metsfanmax wrote:Ok. I am fine with this idea in principle. To make this go forward, we need two things: a complete list of suggested categories and the maps that belong to them, and an idea for how we could add this to start a game/game finder without cluttering it up too much.
I don't do heavy lifting, just big picture stuff. I'm gonna delegate this to bbs.
Bbs, please get this taken care of by eow next week. If you need an assistant, feel free to use Aog.
This has being discussed in the foundry and has been done for the last year or so in a couple of different threads. It is something that thenobodies80 has put a lot of work into and is quite vocal in the need for getting something like this done. A lot of ways have been suggested to organise maps but no one way will suit them all. Like saxi suggested, one of the ways is themes, but a couple more to through into the mix here would be size (number of territories) and difficulty (easy to extreme).
But yes, please something like this is needed now.
Mets, I will let nobodies know of this thread but can I ask you to discuss this with him as it is something he will want to weigh in on as he has put a great deal of time and effort into this.
koontz1973 wrote:This has being discussed in the foundry and has been done for the last year or so in a couple of different threads. It is something that thenobodies80 has put a lot of work into and is quite vocal in the need for getting something like this done. A lot of ways have been suggested to organise maps but no one way will suit them all. Like saxi suggested, one of the ways is themes, but a couple more to through into the mix here would be size (number of territories) and difficulty (easy to extreme).
But yes, please something like this is needed now.
Mets, I will let nobodies know of this thread but can I ask you to discuss this with him as it is something he will want to weigh in on as he has put a great deal of time and effort into this.
OK, I'll definitely discuss it with him. My preferred method would be to have basically a set of XML tags, and let mapmakers decide which tags to apply to their maps. These would then put those maps in whatever categories the tags corresponded to.
koontz1973 wrote:This has being discussed in the foundry and has been done for the last year or so in a couple of different threads. It is something that thenobodies80 has put a lot of work into and is quite vocal in the need for getting something like this done. A lot of ways have been suggested to organise maps but no one way will suit them all. Like saxi suggested, one of the ways is themes, but a couple more to through into the mix here would be size (number of territories) and difficulty (easy to extreme).
But yes, please something like this is needed now.
Mets, I will let nobodies know of this thread but can I ask you to discuss this with him as it is something he will want to weigh in on as he has put a great deal of time and effort into this.
OK, I'll definitely discuss it with him. My preferred method would be to have basically a set of XML tags, and let mapmakers decide which tags to apply to their maps. These would then put those maps in whatever categories the tags corresponded to.
Agreed on both. Multiple tags would allow the maximum flexibility for sorting according to what a player wants. And the work that TNB and others have already done in the foundry should not be ignored -- there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
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koontz1973 wrote:This has being discussed in the foundry and has been done for the last year or so in a couple of different threads. It is something that thenobodies80 has put a lot of work into and is quite vocal in the need for getting something like this done. A lot of ways have been suggested to organise maps but no one way will suit them all. Like saxi suggested, one of the ways is themes, but a couple more to through into the mix here would be size (number of territories) and difficulty (easy to extreme).
But yes, please something like this is needed now.
Mets, I will let nobodies know of this thread but can I ask you to discuss this with him as it is something he will want to weigh in on as he has put a great deal of time and effort into this.
OK, I'll definitely discuss it with him. My preferred method would be to have basically a set of XML tags, and let mapmakers decide which tags to apply to their maps. These would then put those maps in whatever categories the tags corresponded to.
Agreed on both. Multiple tags would allow the maximum flexibility for sorting according to what a player wants. And the work that TNB and others have already done in the foundry should not be ignored -- there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
I agree with the tags. It would be nice to be able to just type Conquest, and get a list of conquest maps. Or Standard, and then filter by size or theme.
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So does this mean we can start a game and instead of it being random of ALL maps, it will be random from just the maps we choose? Could we also add in there a choice for maps that have > X amount of territories and < than X amount of territories? or maybe 3 sections. so < X terts and > X but < Y terts and > Y terts. Does that make sense? I LOVE playing random but not on the small maps so would like to make it random large maps
This suggestion has come up many times in many forms. Koontz beat me to the punch of pointing out that there are current (though possibly currently ignored) projects in the Foundry that would help to accomplish this.
Saxi, you say that this is only for a Start a Game screen, but I think that any efforts at categorization should have effects beyond the start a game screen. It would be nice if the same options could be used on the Game Finder screen (an example that someone brought up here) or for the purposes of having a limited random option (which callmenorcal just pointed out). Both of those ideas have also been suggested before.
Basically, nothing in this thread, except maybe some cooperation between metsfan and nobodies on this particular issue, is really anything new. It's a great idea, but it's all been fleshed out to a greater extent elsewhere. It's one of those projects that has been a long time coming. It would be nice to see it actually happen, though.
