[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I read your first post looking for the clue and figured that the "Ent" was the clue. Even with you highlighting it doesnt help. I cant find an ent in Eye of the world!

[virus90]

im not ent, i am the green man, dont know anything bout the story really but some kind of tree guy, thus kind of an ent in my opinion.
http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Someshta

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Dammit if I'd read the book I'd have picked up on the hint from D1 this game!

Not really sure how to take this claim to be honest. That character is extremely obscure. If you cannot be killed at night, then why not be very pro-town during the day?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

IB - Virus is who your looking for! Your the only person to have entered the eye of the world twice, and it was inside the eye of the world where you discovered that Rand is the Dragon reborn. Virus is protecting the eye of the world!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

My other thoughts.

I dont feel like Tal is being completely open about his role. "finally put his power to good use" implies that previously it did harm, doesnt sound like doc to me.

Madmitch is too amusing to lynch until he does something so ridiculously scummy! Nah I cant stand up for him as there is literally nothing to make him either alignment and when we are probably looking for low number of scum he shouldnt be ignored. Also, if the recruitment is a choice, then surely Madmitch would be a prime target early in the game when joining mafia hardly seems like a wise choice.

And finally Hotshot, who is standing out for me today.

[Iron Butterfly]

IB - Virus is who your looking for! Your the only person to have entered the eye of the world twice, and it was inside the eye of the world where you discovered that Rand is the Dragon reborn. Virus is protecting the eye of the world!

Between you wanting a mass claim and playing my role for me I am getting suspect on your motivations. Play YOUR role.

Something is not adding up with all the role blocks, heals and commutes. I suspect a mass claim will only create more of the same. I have seen a list of all the characters and it is HUGE.

A mass claim only helps the bad guys figure out who to target. If Virus is telling the truth their the pool is now smaller. If he is lying it's a nice bluff to avoid a vig shot.

[Endgame422]

Alot of mentions of HS being scummy whats the case?
Virus are you just able to commute at night? Any other power?
I think i believe virus as his role makes sense considering his lack of dying when i tried to vig him last night.
Virus if you are 3rd party no more hammers just to end the day like with mars.
Seems like you need to be super pro town or we will be pleased to lynch you tomorrow. As long as im alive scum gets 1 kill at night and so does town,so lynching you would not cost us that much,especially with a few townies confirmed by IB its worth on the merits of stopping you from turning to scum at a critical moment(a la storr in HP mafia)
Its worth lynching for narrowing the pool of suspects.
Its also possibly worth it because you could be bullet proof/commuting scum.
Go town or go home virus. If scum cant NK you you only need to fear town lynching you and if you play town hard for the rest of the game(cooperate with IB tomorrow,no voting against confirmed townies,no hammers just to end the day) you can coast to victory with town.
Seems fair to me.
Fpd by IB whom i agree with about massclaim.
No need for claims from anyone not at risk of being killed in the next day/night cycle.
And again i think virus is likely telling the truth because GOT did try and vig him N2 and he certainly survived.

[Talapus]

Ok, if this game goes another day or too Virus needs to be big killed. 3rd parties are recruitable in most games and someone will come after him if they haven't already.

Wing I'm a healer, I made the comment because based on the way the role is written for me it implies I can heal people who are sick or may be come sick. However I have seen absolutely zero indication in night and day actions, day scenes, or messages from players that would indicate a sickness is even present in this game. So yes, completely feel like I'm shooting blanks here.

[dd515087]

Busy weekend. Sorry I wasn't active at all. I just skimmed to catch up, but I'll give the thread a good read tomorrow and post my thoughts.

[Iron Butterfly]

Alot of mentions of HS being scummy whats the case?
Virus are you just able to commute at night? Any other power?
I think i believe virus as his role makes sense considering his lack of dying when i tried to vig him last night.
Virus if you are 3rd party no more hammers just to end the day like with mars.
Seems like you need to be super pro town or we will be pleased to lynch you tomorrow. As long as im alive scum gets 1 kill at night and so does town,so lynching you would not cost us that much,especially with a few townies confirmed by IB its worth on the merits of stopping you from turning to scum at a critical moment(a la storr in HP mafia)
Its worth lynching for narrowing the pool of suspects.
Its also possibly worth it because you could be bullet proof/commuting scum.
Go town or go home virus. If scum cant NK you you only need to fear town lynching you and if you play town hard for the rest of the game(cooperate with IB tomorrow,no voting against confirmed townies,no hammers just to end the day) you can coast to victory with town.
Seems fair to me.
Fpd by IB whom i agree with about massclaim.
No need for claims from anyone not at risk of being killed in the next day/night cycle.
And again i think virus is likely telling the truth because GOT did try and vig him N2 and he certainly survived.

Care to show what page I claimed Town Cop?

I may have offered opinions on who I think may be Town but I have never made a claim to be one and how exactly should he cooperate with me??
If anything you seem to be making him cooperate with you...not that it matters.

Second what constitutes "Super pro Town"? We have no idea who is who until they flip so weather he hammers or votes someone it is the same result.

Third if Storr can hand out vig shots and blocks why do we need someone to do both as well? Wich also begs the question if you can block someone why would you night kill them on night one?? Now I recognize that Tonka and End are two different players....but it seems to me a perfect role for when in doubt block especially night one.

Third

[Iron Butterfly]

and third??? Ahh never mind*grin*

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@Wing I'll try and be more active next day. Just for you

Ahem - he was just reading the forum!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Between you wanting a mass claim and playing my role for me I am getting suspect on your motivations. Play YOUR role.

When have I wanted a mass claim? I dont...

As for "playing your role", I'm sorry for seeing that there is a massive potential for boost to town powers through your role and wanting to help work it out. If you didnt want help then why bother posting it at all.

[rishaed]

Between you wanting a mass claim and playing my role for me I am getting suspect on your motivations. Play YOUR role.

When have I wanted a mass claim? I dont...

As for "playing your role", I'm sorry for seeing that there is a massive potential for boost to town powers through your role and wanting to help work it out. If you didnt want help then why bother posting it at all.

He has notified me that he will be slightly inactive this weekend. FYI.

[Iron Butterfly]

Between you wanting a mass claim and playing my role for me I am getting suspect on your motivations. Play YOUR role.

When have I wanted a mass claim? I dont...

As for "playing your role", I'm sorry for seeing that there is a massive potential for boost to town powers through your role and wanting to help work it out. If you didnt want help then why bother posting it at all.

I have tried to tell you several times in oh so subtle ways that there is a STRONG possibility I may be wrong. I made several assumptions about my role PM. I may have interpreted it wrong.leave it at that.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Then my musings dont matter.

[Endgame422]

Also virus does not much matter then either if IB has been on the wrong track about finding the right player.
And IB you said you KNOW your role as well as storr and I. Storr is still yet to give us his name and i only had done so recently before your post so that sounded like you had checked up on us somehow(not necessarily through a cop check could be watcher/follower/rolecop/something else)
I guess i was mistaken though.
And to respond to your second point,super pro town means i expect his honest reads on whos who,i expect him not to just hammer someone who he thinks is town to end the day(mars),when i thought we had a couple townies confirmed i expected him to follow our lead.
Perhaps we lynch him anyways,as im unsure he can be trusted to help town,and noone seems to have much for a case on anyone else atm.

[StorrZerg]

Who are you talking about endgame

[Endgame422]

Who are you talking about endgame

Virus.
Claimed 3rd party tree guy.

[Endgame422]

Oh and by cooperate with IB i meant do the mutual visit thing to see if it unlocked some town powers or whatever we are supposing it does.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

IB apologise to Storr

Storr start posting properly again.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Hotshot didnt want to be on the streaker lynch until it was absolutely clear I wasnt going to give town any other choice.

He then didnt join the Mars lynch because he couldnt see the logic of lynching someone on the basis of being the only one who would target End v1.0. Of course mafia wouldnt when he knew mafia didnt kill End.

He is avoiding throwing his vote out to use it to push people, and staying reasonably in the shadows.

Theres your case End v2.0

Vote Hotshot

[Endgame422]

Hmm reread the mars lynch.
HS defends him and instead pushes for GT(easy target at the time) maybe hoping to gain towncred when mars was lynched or hoping to redirect to someone more powerful. Seems like the play smart scum would make,but could still be he was townreading mars and honestly defending him.
UNVOTE VOTE HOTSHOT
Hotshot id like a real read from you on who scum are at this point. Top couple of suspects preferably as several people have mentioned you as a strong candidate for todays lynch and yet youve only made cases for who is town,not for who is scum.
Everyone else's reads would be nice as well,so we dont come to indecision like D2, if we do ill be ok to lynch virus as a backup,better then hitting a townie.

[Iron Butterfly]

Storr whose votes do you have?

[StorrZerg]

if they wanna claim they can
one should be obvious. And i doubt either will be lynched today.