CL8 Discussion Area

[josko.ri]

Josko and Random are the two biggest babies on this site! I see why everyone is leaving the site! Also nice to see the CDs backing the two biggest crybabies on here! I guess you have to try and handicap us because you can't beat us on normal terms so you have to rig it to give you a chance! Clan world = BIG JOKE!

Anyway it looks like we will beat you 5-3 in both home and away sets, even if the Usa 2.1 game was not replayed.
So do not act like you are some kind of dream team that nobody can beat because you definitely aren't

We can question for how long did your sitting abuse lasted and did you achieve your excellent results and top 1 ranking by constantly abusing the account sitting system. For example (this was not included in my report), today I found that FreeFalling123 sat 3 turns for jdw35 in Hive Game 16942551 including sitting in opening turn but in all 3 cases jdw35 played his other turns earlier that day normally. It seems like the sitting abuse was not limited only to the Usa 2.1 game but was more widespread practice.

I would really like if admin comes up publicly with details how often did FreeFalling123 logged in to other players accounts during CL8 games and was it sometimes for reasons which are not emergency sitting so that we can know how widespread his account sitting abuse was.

I am talking about Josko in this forum after you said if anyone kept talking about it would face consequences and the person kept talking about it and nothing ands I remember in CL7 Paul lost a medal, first contact spot, and we got a clan warning but nothing for this person. I understand you guys don't like us but the rules are rules why do we get punished for it and they don't?

It was said to not talk about this issue in CL8 Premier League thread here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1&t=220017

However this is different topic, called CL8 Discussion Area, and discussions about CL8 related things are allowed in this topic.

[BIG_John]

It is ok if you are nuts and belong in a nuthouse! If you end up winning it is because you cried and they felt sorry for your ass and want you to have a fair shot at winning CL8 so they wouldn't have to listen to you and random crying!! If you do beat us then Congrats on setting up a fixed win!

[BIG_John]

Josko and Random are the two biggest babies on this site! I see why everyone is leaving the site! Also nice to see the CDs backing the two biggest crybabies on here! I guess you have to try and handicap us because you can't beat us on normal terms so you have to rig it to give you a chance! Clan world = BIG JOKE!

Anyway it looks like we will beat you 5-3 in both home and away sets, even if the Usa 2.1 game was not replayed.
So do not act like you are some kind of dream team that nobody can beat because you definitely aren't

We can question for how long did your sitting abuse lasted and did you achieve your excellent results and top 1 ranking by constantly abusing the account sitting system. For example (this was not included in my report), today I found that FreeFalling123 sat 3 turns for jdw35 in Hive Game 16942551 including sitting in opening turn but in all 3 cases jdw35 played his other turns earlier that day normally. It seems like the sitting abuse was not limited only to the Usa 2.1 game but was more widespread practice.

I would really like if admin comes up publicly with details how often did FreeFalling123 logged in to other players accounts during CL8 games and was it sometimes for reasons which are not emergency sitting so that we can know how widespread his account sitting abuse was.

I am talking about Josko in this forum after you said if anyone kept talking about it would face consequences and the person kept talking about it and nothing ands I remember in CL7 Paul lost a medal, first contact spot, and we got a clan warning but nothing for this person. I understand you guys don't like us but the rules are rules why do we get punished for it and they don't?

It was said to not talk about this issue in CL8 Premier League thread here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1&t=220017

However this is different topic, called CL8 Discussion Area, and discussions about CL8 related things are allowed in this topic.

You were still talking about it before it was moved but obviously you are not smart enough to figure that out!

[josko.ri]

I sense you lost too much energy to speak in this forum so your World 2.1 turn which can be played now will need to be sat later by some better player than yourself
Cases like that are already seen from your clan

[iAmCaffeine]

Josko and Random are the two biggest babies on this site! I see why everyone is leaving the site! Also nice to see the CDs backing the two biggest crybabies on here! I guess you have to try and handicap us because you can't beat us on normal terms so you have to rig it to give you a chance! Clan world = BIG JOKE!

Indeed, there are lots of crybabies on this website.

[angola]

I'm having flashbacks to the old days. It's been awhile since I've seen Josko take down someone so thoroughly. Brought a tear to my eye.

I see FreeFalling is now a freemium, did he get premium stripped? If I recall correctly, he was busted for some sort of account abuse in the past where he played on someone else's account for like 30 games or something. I searched the C&A reports, but couldn't find anything.

[Donelladan]

FF got one month ban.

[IcePack]

I just got back from vacation, anyone have some score updates / predictions?

[rockfist]

After round 7, it will look about like this:

Top 23 GD36
TOFU 21 GD32
S&M 20 GD34
LHDD 20 GD14
Fallen 19 GD14
OSA 18 GD8

None of the others have a chance to win the overall title.

There is a chance TOFU could improve if we turn a game against PACK or a game or two against LHDD (we are struggling in that match).

[FreeFalling123]

Where are we calculating this stuff ^

[rockfist]

Its based on looking (in a cursory way) at the games for those teams through those rounds.

[IcePack]

After round 7, it will look about like this:

Top 23 GD36
TOFU 21 GD32
S&M 20 GD34
LHDD 20 GD14
Fallen 19 GD14
OSA 18 GD8

None of the others have a chance to win the overall title.

There is a chance TOFU could improve if we turn a game against PACK or a game or two against LHDD (we are struggling in that match).

Thanks RF, very interesting. Now I'm curious who has the tougher schedule for the remaining rounds

[Donelladan]

Well, if we only consider the top 6 ranked from rockfist list.
TOP is facing TOFU and FALL.
TOFU is facing S&M and TOP
FALL is facing OSA and TOP
OSA is facing FALL and LHDD.

Looks like for the last 3 rounds, S&M and LHDD kinda have the easier ones... but well if we include the ongoing match ( round 7 and 8 ), then no one has an easy path.
Also the clan which aren't ranked top 6 aren't small clan either.
I think it's still quite open, if TOP loses some point along the way. ( looks like FOED is taking some )

Rockfist, I only count 17 points for OSA after round 7.
And 16 for FOED, so actually FOED could still win ( though very unlikely, mathematically I think it's possible).

[rockfist]

I've been distracted by other things and have not updated my data since last week so you are probably right Don.

[Conchobar]

Rockfist, I only count 17 points for OSA after round 7.
And 16 for FOED, so actually FOED could still win ( though very unlikely, mathematically I think it's possible).

Thanks, Don. You saved me from totting up and posting that myself.
We very nearly did the double over OSA except for one stupid missed turn throwing the last game.
Still, we're confident that FOED will finish in the top half, not OSA.
The upcoming CCup match should be interesting, too...

I think it's still quite open, if TOP loses some point along the way. ( looks like FOED is taking some )

We are trying. But luck is not being a lady. She is being a total b......

[IcePack]

Well, if we only consider the top 6 ranked from rockfist list.
TOP is facing TOFU and FALL.
TOFU is facing S&M and TOP
FALL is facing OSA and TOP
OSA is facing FALL and LHDD.

Looks like for the last 3 rounds, S&M and LHDD kinda have the easier ones... but well if we include the ongoing match ( round 7 and 8 ), then no one has an easy path.
Also the clan which aren't ranked top 6 aren't small clan either.
I think it's still quite open, if TOP loses some point along the way. ( looks like FOED is taking some )

Rockfist, I only count 17 points for OSA after round 7.
And 16 for FOED, so actually FOED could still win ( though very unlikely, mathematically I think it's possible).

Thanks Don
Looks like TOP & TOFU might have the hardest schedule, with OSA not far behind

[Conchobar]

What's the deal with the results and league table never being updated for this? Like ever. Ever ever.
Or at least not since January 28.

[IcePack]

We don't have access to any of Lindax tables or info etc.
so we have to build everything from scratch.
I believe we will have an update in the Platoon Reprot

[Conchobar]

Oh right, I see. Thanks for the answer, Ice. Will look forward to that...

[IcePack]

BTW those tables got posted in the PD & SD threads

[dlbuilds]

This is PaulatPeace.

I am borrowing a friend’s account to post my fair well message to Conquer Club.

There are several things I would like to address, but before I do I wish to let the Mods & Admins know that if you delete or remove this post, I will re-post it again and again until it remains. You may lock it down, but do not delete or remove it...or you will find your perceived problem will only be compounded. My words will be heard

First, I would like to congratulate all who competed in the CL 8 fairly. It was a honor to meet you on the battlefield. To Josko and S&M, you should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully manipulating the outcome of the USA 2.1 game against TOP. This game was clearly being won by TOP until lies were told about TOP’s sitting practice. This is the truth: TOP has never abused the Clan or site sitting rules as they are written. Yes, a player must always take his own turn when possible, but no one has the right to dictate an exact time when that turn must be taken. Just because a player has been online recently does not mean he has to take a turn in another game at the same time. There was never any plan for one TOP player to take another’s turn deliberately. Emergency sitting is allowed when time is low and this is exactly what occurred. Neither of our players ever said otherwise and TOP would never condone illegal behavior. Conversely, in the remake game one of S&M’s players played only 50% or less of their own turns in the first 4 rounds. This is clearly against the sitting rules. You may believe what you want and make all the negative remarks you wish, but nothing will ever change this truth The Omega Pantheon is the rightful winners of the CL 8...by 2 points. In any given competition one of the top ranked clans could beat us.......but to date they have not. We are undefeated in clan wars and tournaments This is fact

Secondly, I would like to address the reason for my indefinite ban from this site. Many have speculated as to exactly what egregious act I committed to deserve this punishment. Allow me to quote directly from those who imposed this ban:

“ your dispute against the Clan mods or with Icepack....has taken up more time than anyone could handle. This attitude has taken too long to be tolerated and we have reached that point where we had enough. You are hereby banned indefinitely so that you can contemplate your actions.

” Yes friends.............the reason I was banned indefinitely is because the Mods & Admins decided they didn’t want to engage in discussion and debate with me any more. All the other BS and senseless, sometimes vulgar remarks they could tolerate......but respectful discussion and debate that brings to light mistakes and wrongful actions.....this cannot be permitted. The fact the many of the points I brought to light resulted in positive changes in policy does not seem to matter. If I was taking up too much of their time, why not simply ignore me. But to take away my ability to send and receive private messages and wall posts, to remove my ability to play games...in the very middle of some of these games, to take away my ability to even communicate with my clan members in our own Clan forum and to remove me as the founding Leader of The Omega Pantheon.......this is simply wrong

For those of you wondering about the issue accusing me of Gross Abuse in my games in order become Conqueror...let me share with you the exact words of King Achilles regarding this matter:

“No clear rules have been broken here. High ranked players or decent ranked players should know what they are getting into once they get invited. If the invitation was clear enough to tell what is going to happen, then accepting that invite, as a high ranked player, you are also liable for taking it. Does this practice also involved forcing anyone to play these games with him? I can understand the wrongdoing if the accused is targeting new recruits or low ranked players who will likely lose after the game but if we go further with this guideline in also including high ranked players, we are setting a dangerous precedent in telling everyone not to play and send invites in games or maps that we have grown to like. I agree that this kind of practice looks shady but there is also a point where, as a long time high ranked player, we should also be responsible of our own actions when we accept game invites. Let's not look at this report as only about the accused. Setting a precedent like this may also mean that any player who gets most of his points from playing a particular map is on his way of getting reported in the future. We might as well request the webmaster to put a limit on how many times you can play on each map which is not going to happen and no one would like.”

King Achilles communicated with me about his final decision and I abided completely with his ruling. Again, believe what you want, think whatever you will......The truth is I committed no violation of the rules and fully abided by King Achilles ruling

I have been a premium member of Conquer Club for over 7 years. I have even paid for others memberships when they could not afford it. I have actively participated in discussions and made recommendations that would later result in improvements to this site. I have founded one of the most successful Clans in CC history and have devoted countless hours for over 2 years now to help us successfully reach our goals. Although I never really wanted the title, I reached the ultimate rank of Conqueror, with a score that is still higher than those who claim that title now. For these successes and contributions I have been indefinitely banned.

To those of you who I have called friend, I thank you for your fellowship and camaraderie and wish you well in all you do. To those of you who have maligned my name, falsely accused me and participated in wrongdoing against my clan and myself, I forgive you. I will not return to Conquer Club regardless of the lifting of my ban as long as the current owner is in place. It is he who is ultimately responsible for the wrongs that have been committed, and it is clear what his agenda is.

Fair well friends. Live long and prosper.

Omegas Fight As One

PaulatPeace

[GENERAL PAT]

This is PaulatPeace.

I am borrowing a friend’s account to post my fair well message to Conquer Club.

There are several things I would like to address, but before I do I wish to let the Mods & Admins know that if you delete or remove this post, I will re-post it again and again until it remains. You may lock it down, but do not delete or remove it...or you will find your perceived problem will only be compounded. My words will be heard

First, I would like to congratulate all who competed in the CL 8 fairly. It was a honor to meet you on the battlefield. To Josko and S&M, you should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully manipulating the outcome of the USA 2.1 game against TOP. This game was clearly being won by TOP until lies were told about TOP’s sitting practice. This is the truth: TOP has never abused the Clan or site sitting rules as they are written. Yes, a player must always take his own turn when possible, but no one has the right to dictate an exact time when that turn must be taken. Just because a player has been online recently does not mean he has to take a turn in another game at the same time. There was never any plan for one TOP player to take another’s turn deliberately. Emergency sitting is allowed when time is low and this is exactly what occurred. Neither of our players ever said otherwise and TOP would never condone illegal behavior. Conversely, in the remake game one of S&M’s players played only 50% or less of their own turns in the first 4 rounds. This is clearly against the sitting rules. You may believe what you want and make all the negative remarks you wish, but nothing will ever change this truth The Omega Pantheon is the rightful winners of the CL 8...by 2 points. In any given competition one of the top ranked clans could beat us.......but to date they have not. We are undefeated in clan wars and tournaments This is fact

Secondly, I would like to address the reason for my indefinite ban from this site. Many have speculated as to exactly what egregious act I committed to deserve this punishment. Allow me to quote directly from those who imposed this ban:

“ your dispute against the Clan mods or with Icepack....has taken up more time than anyone could handle. This attitude has taken too long to be tolerated and we have reached that point where we had enough. You are hereby banned indefinitely so that you can contemplate your actions.”

Yes friends.............the reason I was banned indefinitely is because the Mods & Admins decided they didn’t want to engage in discussion and debate with me any more. All the other BS and senseless, sometimes vulgar remarks they could tolerate......but respectful discussion and debate that brings to light mistakes and wrongful actions.....this cannot be permitted. The fact the many of the points I brought to light resulted in positive changes in policy does not seem to matter. If I was taking up too much of their time, why not simply ignore me. But to take away my ability to send and receive private messages and wall posts, to remove my ability to play games...in the very middle of some of these games, to take away my ability to even communicate with my clan members in our own Clan forum and to remove me as the founding Leader of The Omega Pantheon.......this is simply wrong

For those of you wondering about the issue accusing me of Gross Abuse in my games in order become Conqueror...let me share with you the exact words of King Achilles regarding this matter:

“No clear rules have been broken here. High ranked players or decent ranked players should know what they are getting into once they get invited. If the invitation was clear enough to tell what is going to happen, then accepting that invite, as a high ranked player, you are also liable for taking it. Does this practice also involved forcing anyone to play these games with him? I can understand the wrongdoing if the accused is targeting new recruits or low ranked players who will likely lose after the game but if we go further with this guideline in also including high ranked players, we are setting a dangerous precedent in telling everyone not to play and send invites in games or maps that we have grown to like. I agree that this kind of practice looks shady but there is also a point where, as a long time high ranked player, we should also be responsible of our own actions when we accept game invites. Let's not look at this report as only about the accused. Setting a precedent like this may also mean that any player who gets most of his points from playing a particular map is on his way of getting reported in the future. We might as well request the webmaster to put a limit on how many times you can play on each map which is not going to happen and no one would like.”

King Achilles communicated with me about his final decision and I abided completely with his ruling. Again, believe what you want, think whatever you will......The truth is I committed no violation of the rules and fully abided by King Achilles ruling

I have been a premium member of Conquer Club for over 7 years. I have even paid for others memberships when they could not afford it. I have actively participated in discussions and made recommendations that would later result in improvements to this site. I have founded one of the most successful Clans in CC history and have devoted countless hours for over 2 years now to help us successfully reach our goals. Although I never really wanted the title, I reached the ultimate rank of Conqueror, with a score that is still higher than those who claim that title now. For these successes and contributions I have been indefinitely banned.

To those of you who I have called friend, I thank you for your fellowship and camaraderie and wish you well in all you do. To those of you who have maligned my name, falsely accused me and participated in wrongdoing against my clan and myself, I forgive you. I will not return to Conquer Club regardless of the lifting of my ban as long as the current owner is in place. It is he who is ultimately responsible for the wrongs that have been committed, and it is clear what his agenda is.

Fair well friends. Live long and prosper.

Omegas Fight As One

PaulatPeace