Honour, Integrity and Good Grammar

[laughingcavalier]

This thread is dedicated to honour, integrity and good grammar. Well-behaved posters will be invited to my next Holy Synod and Spelling Bee event, to be held next time the Wickedometer registers 6 or above.

[iAmCaffeine]

I received a PM entry for you LC.

Greetings,

My name is PaulatPeace. I have been a member of Conquer Club for over 7 years now and recently reached the rank of Conqueror. I have also recently been permanently banned from this site by the administration. It was expected that I would go quietly into the dark night, but that is not my way. I decided I would post one last message to CC and say goodbye while explaining some facts about recent occurrences which involved me. I asked that my post be left alone and not be deleted. My intention was to leave CC peacefully without contention. I simply wished to have an opportunity to say my peace and say goodbye.

Not only was my post deleted multiple times, the administration has now employed a tactic which is somewhat telling about their ability to manipulate and degrade the integrity of this site. They have gone into an account which they did not have the password for and abusively changed my words to have a derogatory effect Yes, you heard me correctly The altered post is still up in the Clan Forum under General Pat’s (a good friend and mentor of mine) name.

What does this mean and how does this affect you? What it means is the mods can and will do pretty much whatever they want to anyone they disagree with. They can go into your account at any time and see to whom and what you are writing in the form of Private Messages. They can go into your Clan Forum and spy on whatever strategic information they choose. This is particularly disturbing when you realize many of these individuals are in opposing clans in wars and tournaments. There are many who have complained about the incongruency of the dice when glaringly obvious statistics often support this theory. You can rest assured if the mods can obtain access to anyone’s private accounts without passwords......they can most assuredly hack your dice

What should be obvious to you now is this.....If they can do it to me.......they can and will do it to you How does that make you feel? Battles and wars you thought were being fought fairly..... have been manipulated and adulterated. Games you thought you were fighting fair and square....were secretly rigged to have a desired outcome. Now you have factual evidence that what others have said before is in fact not delusional paranoia, but actually happening.

Many of you don’t know me except what you may have heard from others. I can tell you this about myself: Honor & Integrity and not just words to me....but principles upon which I live my life. I have worked very hard to make them an integral part of my experience here on CC and also the foundation of the clan I created, The Omega Pantheon. It is clear that the owner and administrators of this site have no idea what these words mean. For years now the number of players on this site has diminished to what is now a mere shadow of what it used to be. No wonder. Who would want to play on a site that supports cheating and abuse and engages in those same practices themselves. For those of you who continue to play on this site......that is your right and your choice. You have been warned!

For reference, I am including here my original farewell post....in it’s unadulterated form:

This is PaulatPeace.

I am borrowing a friend’s account to post my fair well message to Conquer Club.

There are several things I would like to address, but before I do I wish to let the Mods & Admins know that if you delete or remove this post, I will re-post it again and again until it remains. You may lock it down, but do not delete or remove it...or you will find your perceived problem will only be compounded. My words will be heard

First, I would like to congratulate all who competed in the CL 8 fairly. It was a honor to meet you on the battlefield. To Josko and S&M, you should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully manipulating the outcome of the USA 2.1 game against TOP. This game was clearly being won by TOP until lies were told about TOP’s sitting practice. This is the truth: TOP has never abused the Clan or site sitting rules as they are written. Yes, a player must always take his own turn when possible, but no one has the right to dictate an exact time when that turn must be taken. Just because a player has been online recently does not mean he has to take a turn in another game at the same time. There was never any plan for one TOP player to take another’s turn deliberately. Emergency sitting is allowed when time is low and this is exactly what occurred. Neither of our players ever said otherwise and TOP would never condone illegal behavior. Conversely, in the remake game one of S&M’s players played only 50% or less of their own turns in the first 4 rounds. This is clearly against the sitting rules. You may believe what you want and make all the negative remarks you wish, but nothing will ever change this truth The Omega Pantheon is the rightful winners of the CL 8...by 2 points. In any given competition one of the top ranked clans could beat us.......but to date they have not. We are undefeated in clan wars and tournaments This is fact

Secondly, I would like to address the reason for my indefinite ban from this site. Many have speculated as to exactly what egregious act I committed to deserve this punishment. Allow me to quote directly from those who imposed this ban:

“ your dispute against the Clan mods or with Icepack....has taken up more time than anyone could handle. This attitude has taken too long to be tolerated and we have reached that point where we had enough. You are hereby banned indefinitely so that you can contemplate your actions.”

Yes friends.............the reason I was banned indefinitely is because the Mods & Admins decided they didn’t want to engage in discussion and debate with me any more. All the other BS and senseless, sometimes vulgar remarks they could tolerate......but respectful discussion and debate that brings to light mistakes and wrongful actions.....this cannot be permitted. The fact the many of the points I brought to light resulted in positive changes in policy does not seem to matter. If I was taking up too much of their time, why not simply ignore me. But to take away my ability to send and receive private messages and wall posts, to remove my ability to play games...in the very middle of some of these games, to take away my ability to even communicate with my clan members in our own Clan forum and to remove me as the founding Leader of The Omega Pantheon.......this is simply wrong

For those of you wondering about the issue accusing me of Gross Abuse in my games in order become Conqueror...let me share with you the exact words of King Achilles regarding this matter:

“No clear rules have been broken here. High ranked players or decent ranked players should know what they are getting into once they get invited. If the invitation was clear enough to tell what is going to happen, then accepting that invite, as a high ranked player, you are also liable for taking it. Does this practice also involved forcing anyone to play these games with him? I can understand the wrongdoing if the accused is targeting new recruits or low ranked players who will likely lose after the game but if we go further with this guideline in also including high ranked players, we are setting a dangerous precedent in telling everyone not to play and send invites in games or maps that we have grown to like. I agree that this kind of practice looks shady but there is also a point where, as a long time high ranked player, we should also be responsible of our own actions when we accept game invites. Let's not look at this report as only about the accused. Setting a precedent like this may also mean that any player who gets most of his points from playing a particular map is on his way of getting reported in the future. We might as well request the webmaster to put a limit on how many times you can play on each map which is not going to happen and no one would like.”

King Achilles communicated with me about his final decision and I abided completely with his ruling. Again, believe what you want, think whatever you will......The truth is I committed no violation of the rules and fully abided by King Achilles ruling

I have been a premium member of Conquer Club for over 7 years. I have even paid for others memberships when they could not afford it. I have actively participated in discussions and made recommendations that would later result in improvements to this site. I have founded one of the most successful Clans in CC history and have devoted countless hours for over 2 years now to help us successfully reach our goals. Although I never really wanted the title, I reached the ultimate rank of Conqueror, with a score that is still higher than those who claim that title now. For these successes and contributions I have been indefinitely banned.

To those of you who I have called friend, I thank you for your fellowship and camaraderie and wish you well in all you do. To those of you who have maligned my name, falsely accused me and participated in wrongdoing against my clan and myself, I forgive you. I will not return to Conquer Club regardless of the lifting of my ban as long as the current owner is in place. It is he who is ultimately responsible for the wrongs that have been committed, and it is clear what his agenda is.

Fair well friends. Live long and prosper.

Omegas Fight As One

PaulatPeace

[Dukasaur]

Kudos!

[laughingcavalier]

Thanks Caff! That is definitely at least 2 Benjikats on the Wickedometer scale.

[TeeGee]

This topic is worth a facebook like, a google +1 and a CC Pink Star

[iAmCaffeine]

I want a pink star.

[IcePack]

[2dimes]

Welcome back Scions of Glory. Which sister are you?

[BoganGod]

I squid you not.

[iAmCaffeine]

DAD JOKE!!

[BoganGod]

DAD JOKE!!

Say Uncle

[iAmCaffeine]

No, you will always be my Auntie Jemima.

[Infinate One]

Hello,

This is my first message in any forum section. I will be reading and possibly commenting on different subjects as I try to become more familiar with this site.

The thing that attracted my attention to this section was the words Honour and Integrity. I came here expecting a somewhat serious discussion on these virtues. I am a little confused.There was one rather lengthy message by someone who appears to be gone from this site and some other remarks that seem to be intended as funny, but I don't see any serious discussion. I admit being new to these forums, but have I missed something here or perhaps some inside joke you are all aware of?

Nate

[iAmCaffeine]

You use strange words. Honour? Integrity? Lost.

[Infinate One]

I am even more confused now. The words I used were the ones in the title of this section. Yes, I am a little lost. I am starting to think this is not a serious discussion. Please let me know if this is the case.

Nate

[Dukasaur]

This is indeed the case.

[BoganGod]

I am even more confused now. The words I used were the ones in the title of this section. Yes, I am a little lost. I am starting to think this is not a serious discussion. Please let me know if this is the case.

Nate

The next conversation will likely be about weaponized autism and placement on the spectrum as a function of computing humour in it's more esoteric forms. I for example am often classed as high functioning aspergers, having had advanced social skills beaten into me at multiple different boarding schools. I wanted the beatings to stop so I researched visual and verbal cues. Most of the time now I understand that humour is being attempted, even if I don't understand the joke.

[Infinate One]

Sounds like this is the appropriate place for your skill set. Probably not mine.

Nate

[Symmetry]

Hello,

This is my first message in any forum section. I will be reading and possibly commenting on different subjects as I try to become more familiar with this site.

The thing that attracted my attention to this section was the words Honour and Integrity. I came here expecting a somewhat serious discussion on these virtues. I am a little confused.There was one rather lengthy message by someone who appears to be gone from this site and some other remarks that seem to be intended as funny, but I don't see any serious discussion. I admit being new to these forums, but have I missed something here or perhaps some inside joke you are all aware of?

Nate

There are a lot of different areas on this site, and different rules apply within each. If you want an open discussion about honour and integrity, it will come up in discussions, but the discussions will be open in GD and the off topics.

The downside is that it won't be an echo-chamber. You'll get people who disagree with you and your premises, and even mock you for it. You'll have to deal with that in your own way.

TLDR:

Jack: I didn't come here to be mocked!
Jill: Oh, where do you usually go?

[BoganGod]

Sounds like this is the appropriate place for your skill set. Probably not mine.

Nate

You are more than capable of learning. Capacity for learning to some degree at least, is innate in humanity.

[andretrepa]

Hello Friends,

Let me say first of all I am a friend of PaulatPeace’s. I have borrowed this account to make a statement that will hopefully give you some pause to consider what I am about to tell say. I am not Paul himself but am basing what I am going to say on conversations I have had with him and also on basic principles of reasonable conduct and what I have come to recognize as right and wrong. I am not familiar with all that has transpired on this site up to this point except what Paul has told me. I do however know Paul pretty well and believe he is an honest person of integrity. Some of the things I will point out here should be able to be verified on this site. Others should simply appeal to one’s common sense and also the sense of how you would wish to be treated yourself by others. I understand that some of you just don’t like PaulatPeace. Others of you don’t care for the way he would keep on standing up for what he believed in. Whatever your persuasion, all I ask is that you look candidly at what I have to say, and ask yourself if what was done to Paul seems fair and right.

First, let me offer a basic premise most people in free countries all over the globe would agree on. This premise basically says that just because you own a web site, that doesn’t give you free reign to do whatever you wish to people who enter or join the site. This site is owned by a corporation based in California, USA. There are certain standards for corporations based in the USA and certain established protocols which must be adhered to. For example, If you start a restaurant where you present yourself open to the public and sell meals for which patrons pay money, you cannot just treat the people who enter your restaurant any way you want to. You cannot deny them seating because of the color of their skin. When they are seated, if you discover they are a Buddhist or Mormon, you cannot refuse to serve them. If they tell you they don’t care for the tables are arranged or that they don’t like color of the carpet, you cannot just boot them out onto the street.

Possibly, you may see my point here. You can’t just do what you want to the people who visit your business, whether that be a restaurant in this great country, or a gaming site people pay money to join. Things were done to PaulatPeace that should not have been done to anyone here

I will now list some of these things:

- When Paul posted his Farewell remarks using the account of a friend and mentor of his (General Pat), the administration of this site entered General Pat’s account (although they did not have his password) and changed Paul’s words to make fun of him in a mean and ugly way, disparaging his character and distorting what he said. They may have felt justified in what they did and there may be some of you who agree with them, but tell me this, how does it make you feel that the administrators on this site can enter anyone’s account at any time they wish and do or say anything they want to. Your accounts are supposed to be private accounts only you have access to or those you give your password to. Clearly this is not the case and each of you are in jeopardy of this happening to you, your friends or your clan.

- When Paul was prohibited from having access to his account and banned permanently from this site, he was given one reason for this being done. He was told that the mods and admins running this site that they just could not spend their valuable time dealing with him any longer and that he was just too much of a disruption. Ok, I get it that Paul probably said things that threatened their authority and the status quo they had established and wanted to protect. But I have seen some of the posts on this site. I have witnessed the vulgarity, the name calling, the disparaging remarks directed towards Paul and others by many players. So Paul brings up points he feels are relevant and fact based. Even if you don’t share his views or agree with him, does this mean you have the right to take away his access to the account he paid for and ban him from the site because you don’t agree with him? Did Paul use gross profanity on a regular basis. Did he make racist or sexist remarks? Did he ever degrade another player and suggest they be banned from this site because he disagreed with their point of view? No friends, he did not He simply voiced his opinion, which he had a right to do, and as others do all the time.



- Paul was accused of grossly abusing other players on this site by inviting players to games on a map he was proficient at. Those of you not familiar with the accusations may not be aware that Paul was never found guilty of these accusations. It was even stated by the individual making the judgement of his guilt or innocence that all he did was invite higher ranked players to these games and these players were fully capable of refusing to join the games or not. You may also not be aware that with every invitation sent, Paul ALWAYS told everyone that he was very skilled on the map (Antartica) he was inviting them to and offered to answer their questions about the map itself if they had any. Paul had reached the rank of Conqueror at this time and many players would jump at the chance to play a Conqueror. When Paul would win a game he gained an average of about 8 points. When he lost a game (which did happen from time to time) he would lose 45 - 50 points. There are numerous players on this site that specialize in specific maps. When players join games with them they do so willingly and without coercion. They usually lose these games, but it is always their choice and their decision to join the games or not. Paul ultimately was not found guilty, but did receive a warning which he completely followed. Look at the record. Look at the evidence. Although this was not the reason Paul was banned from this site, the way he was treated by his accusers and all the others who jumped on that bandwagon was despicable. Things were said that were blatantly untrue, and all these thing were said while Paul was not even permitted to answer his accusers. So I ask you this, how would you feel if this was done to you? How would you feel if you were accused of abusing players who were by no means newbies to the site and you had been completely honest and straight with when inviting them to games?

- The Clan which Paul created (The Omega Pantheon) has been the most successful clan this last year according to a clan ranking system referred to by this site as the F400 Ranking. For the last
2 ½ years Paul has poured his heart and soul into this clan as it’s founder and chief leader. He spent countless hours developing strategies and methods by which his new clan could rise to the top of the clan world. The principles of Honor & Integrity which were the foundational values this clan was built upon were his values and his inspiration. Yet, when Paul was banned from this site, the administration removed his name as a Leader of his clan and eventually removed his name entirely from the clan roster, all without permission of the current Leaders of his clan. Whether you agree with Paul or not, whether you feel he was dead wrong or justly right, whether you thought he was just a pain in the butt or someone who stood up for what he believed in------- how would you feel if you had poured yourself into the creation and development of a very successful clan, only to be removed from the clan’s records, not by the current clan leaders, but by the site administrators who have no business messing with a clan’s roster?

I pose these sincere questions to you brothers and sisters. Ask yourself how you would feel if this were done to you, or your friends or your clan mates. No matter what you think of an individual, there is a right way everyone deserves to be treated, and then there is the way Paul was treated by this site