CC is declining again!

[sm8900]

When I look at the number of online users, I see it's like only 60% of the number I used to find a year ago.

This indicates CC is not even stable and non-growing; rather, it's declining!

17315 are the current users. I think they used to be +20.000 last year.

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[quote="Doc_Brown"] Currently sitting at 4994. Looking through this thread at the approximate numbers as close as possible to May 20 over the last few years: 2008: 22,894 -source archive.org 2009: 22,726 -source archive.org 2010: 19,729 -source archive.org 2011: 21,658 -source archive.org 2012: 15,200 (lackattack sells to El Jefe) 2013: 13,300 2014: 11,500 (El Jefe sells to bigWham) 2015: 8900 2016: 7400 2017: 6100 2018: 5600 2019: 5000 So we're been averaging ~15% loss of players year over year, though it's closer to 10% loss for the last two years.

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i think we will be fine!

[IcePack]

6133

[stringybeany]

just back after a couple year's hiatus. Yeah it's not like the old days and never will be again, but there are enough hard core lifers to keep it open, at least for now.

[jusplay4fun]

When I look at the number of online users, I see it's like only 60% of the number I used to find a year ago.

This indicates CC is not even stable and non-growing; rather, it's declining!

17315 are the current users. I think they used to be +20.000 last year.

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[quote="Doc_Brown"] Currently sitting at 4994. Looking through this thread at the approximate numbers as close as possible to May 20 over the last few years: 2008: 22,894 -source archive.org 2009: 22,726 -source archive.org 2010: 19,729 -source archive.org 2011: 21,658 -source archive.org 2012: 15,200 (lackattack sells to El Jefe) 2013: 13,300 2014: 11,500 (El Jefe sells to bigWham) 2015: 8900 2016: 7400 2017: 6100 2018: 5600 2019: 5000 So we're been averaging ~15% loss of players year over year, though it's closer to 10% loss for the last two years.

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i think we will be fine! [/quote]

Someone posted a graph with the numbers for several years. It was posted about one year ago, with an update. I think it is in this thread, if anyone wants to "resurrect it" for a current view. The overall pattern is a decline, with a small bump up due to COVID restrictions.

The reasons for the decline are well documented here, once you get past the snapshot numbers that are the most frequent posts here. The site continues loses members and attracts few "hard-core" Risk Players.

BUT most websites show a decline as the market has fragmented, much as movies attendance (Pre-COVID) and TV networks and shows have too. My wife watches videos, often on YouTube, on her iPad and now rarely watches "normal TV" anymore, network, cable, satellite, or streaming. I made similar points in posts over the past few years, with data to support some of my points.

[IcePack]

This was current

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p5197246

[jusplay4fun]

This was current

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p5197246

Thanks, IcePack. I knew someone more knowledgeable than I would find it. I wasted about 10 minutes looking for that graph....!

I like the graphs to better see the overall Trend(s) and not pay attention as much to the "Snapshot" one moment numbers.

[Davie.K]

Absolutely agree...but without forgetting those snapshot numbers have endlessly provided the visual delight of the trend......especially when it's anything with 69 in it

[Davie.K]

Interesting how the initial lockdown sent us back 8 years to user amounts...much like covid has sent the World back a decade in development. (in some cases advanced too)

[Maisel002]

Part of the reason for the decline is BULLSHIT dice. I stopped playing for a year. Came back today and played one game. Guess what?? I got fucked on rolls. I am done with this shit hole website.

[riskllama]

welcome back!

[Davie.K]

[Suppurator]

I've been here for a wee while.
I used to really enjoy the site. Close games. Sure, sometimes the dice sucked. Sometimes the drop did too. Sometimes they both double-teamed you. Generally though, the honours were pretty well shared.

Now, it's a f&*king mess. Terrible dice odds are regular. Ohhh - I know. Nothing has changed with the dice calculator. But something NEEDS to happen. Often, when I win, I feel I need to apologise to the other player because the game was so skewed.

I'm not going away - but CC will never get another dollar for premium membership from me.

[IcePack]

6,051

[Setnimel]

People leave for various reasons, life changes and things move on. I stopped playing for a around 3 years and have come back in the last couple of days for a bit of fun. I think instead of looking at the reasons why people leave for technifiser.com, the bigger question is why new people are put off joining. You can't keep everybody playing CC at the end of the day, but to maintain a healthy user base there needs to be people joining CC too.

[Davie.K]

I am presuming that is one less for the total now ....

[jusplay4fun]

People leave for various reasons, life changes and things move on. I stopped playing for a around 3 years and have come back in the last couple of days for a bit of fun. I think instead of looking at the reasons why people leave, the bigger question is why new people are put off joining. You can't keep everybody playing CC at the end of the day, but to maintain a healthy user base there needs to be people joining CC too.

I think some possible reasons for this decline have been discussed in this very thread. I know I have offered a few theories over the past few years.

I think there are a few main reasons:

1) this game is not easily played on a cell phone (it is TOO complex);
2) the game does not appeal to those who grew up playing NES (or other such gaming systems) or video games with all the "Bells and Whistles";
3) the 24 hour wait is a turn-off to many younger players; it is TOO SLOW.
4) Many younger gamers never played the BOARD game Risk in RL and so this format does not appeal to them.
5) There are simply TOO MANY OTHER gaming options that offer # 1-2 and are JUS more appealing to the younger gamers.
6) Nothing is constant and this site must evolve to attract new players. I do not see the "Other Games" as a big draw to combat the decline.
7) People change; some come and some go, as in Real Life. Some leave, some return, and we add a few new players here and there.
8 ) The bump up due to COVID restrictions will not last. We have kept few from that bump; I am a Guide (and Super Guide, too) and have seen many NR GO and never return. SOME barely stay on CC more than 3 minutes.

BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

BOTTOM LINE (or nearly so):
As long as there are those of us who enjoy the strategy and challenge of the RISK game concepts, and enjoy playing with other good game players, this site will survive in some form, at least a few more years.

[TeeGee]

I am presuming that is one less for the total now ....

wont reflect on the scoreboard if he doesn't take his turn

I'm keeping botboy around to humour me a little, see what he comes up with next, if anything

[DetroitMojo]

Sometimes I wonder about the mental health of people who've played 6,274 games on this site. Like riskllama.

[Davie.K]

I am presuming that is one less for the total now ....

wont reflect on the scoreboard if he doesn't take his turn

I'm keeping botboy around to humour me a little, see what he comes up with next, if anything

like your style

[KraphtOne]

I tell ya when K1 left it killed this place...

[Dukasaur]

BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

Yes. People often bitch about censorship on this site, but this site tolerates a level of criticism of itself that would never be permitted on most other sites.

[jusplay4fun]

BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

Yes. People often bitch about censorship on this site, but this site tolerates a level of criticism of itself that would never be permitted on most other sites.

I think that Pogo does not permit ANY discussion of religion or politics. That keeps much controversies OUT and off their site. As I recall, they quickly delete post viewed as harmful, from what little I saw of that on Pogo. They have moderators too, to enforce rules for fair play and "clean" chat.

[Davie.K]

6,000

[Davie.K]

Was hoping for a bit of a rally overnight,think it got up to 6004...but the inevitable has happened....dropped below the 6 grand ...5,993

[jusplay4fun]

is there any way to stabilize, or even, to reverse this long-term decline?

And please, do not turn this into a complaint about dice. that topic has been discussed ad nauseum.