D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - October 2025 Ranking

[MTIceman41]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

[Shannon Apple]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

MT, you're being disingenuous and you've annoyed me. You know full well that it wasn't accurate, and the entire clan world knows it too. S&M didn't start with you and it doesn't end with you either. You're not as cute as you think you're being.

I wish you luck with the new clan and all, but stop talking down S&M. You were a clan leader most recently afterall, so you really should just concentrate on the clan you've made now. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

[MTIceman41]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

MT, you're being disingenuous and you've annoyed me. You know full well that it wasn't accurate, and the entire clan world knows it too. S&M didn't start with you and it doesn't end with you either. You're not as cute as you think you're being.

I wish you luck with the new clan and all, but stop talking down S&M. You were a clan leader most recently afterall, so you really should just concentrate on the clan you've made now. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

Wow not even what I was communicating here…this is the D400 and I was making a point about the “top” clans…read the chat before me…people were making jokes and puns about top. I like mags and was changing the subject lol. private message next time to clarify; I think that’s always best policy.

[josko.ri]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

When youevaluate your contribution to S&M, just look at which winning ratio did you achieve in semifinals and finals for ccups, as in quartefinals we never actually had anopponent whocan give us fair competition until now.

Since 2017, in semifinals and finals of ccup you have scored more than 50% wins 2 times, exavtly 50% win once and less than 50% wins 4 times. Even inthe last war vsFALL which made you leave the clan you svoted 8/18 so your contribution was less than average.

To put things inreference, I played every ccup since 2010 and scored less than 50% wins 2-3 times in total including all full wars.

You may think highly of yourself but whenit comes to semis and finals of ccups you underperformed during the time in S&M.

Good luck with LION, hopeyou may increase your performance to over 50%

[Donelladan]

What's wrong with you josko ?
A small joke about S&M, not even close to being mean, - I have no idea why you're being offended at all - and you feel the need to come here with attack on MT skills when he was part of S&M ?
That's just so petty and out of context. ( and imho ridiculous )

[josko.ri]

What's wrong with you josko ?
A small joke about S&M, not even close to being mean, - I have no idea why you're being offended at all - and you feel the need to come here with attack on MT skills when he was part of S&M ?
That's just so petty and out of context. ( and imho ridiculous )

I put out his record in clan games (ssemifinals and finals), which is a publicly available data.

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

It is below my expectation that a clan leader underperforms inthe most important matches.

See clan leaders from other clans for example (Don, rockfist, GoranZ etc), they almost always have positive record andlead their clans to wins.

[Donelladan]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

[josko.ri]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

[i-andrei]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Then why didn't you kick him out before if he underperformed?
Nice to talk trash about your people after they leave, right?
How are the current ones taking your tantrums?

[MagnusGreeol]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

MT, you're being disingenuous and you've annoyed me. You know full well that it wasn't accurate, and the entire clan world knows it too. S&M didn't start with you and it doesn't end with you either. You're not as cute as you think you're being.

I wish you luck with the new clan and all, but stop talking down S&M. You were a clan leader most recently afterall, so you really should just concentrate on the clan you've made now. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

Wow not even what I was communicating here…this is the D400 and I was making a point about the “top” clans…read the chat before me…people were making jokes and puns about top. I like mags and was changing the subject lol. private message next time to clarify; I think that’s always best policy.

Saluti MT brother! Thanks blood!♡

\MTM/

[Shannon Apple]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

MT, you're being disingenuous and you've annoyed me. You know full well that it wasn't accurate, and the entire clan world knows it too. S&M didn't start with you and it doesn't end with you either. You're not as cute as you think you're being.

I wish you luck with the new clan and all, but stop talking down S&M. You were a clan leader most recently afterall, so you really should just concentrate on the clan you've made now. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

Wow not even what I was communicating here…this is the D400 and I was making a point about the “top” clans…read the chat before me…people were making jokes and puns about top. I like mags and was changing the subject lol. private message next time to clarify; I think that’s always best policy.

I regret nothing. Lol. I corrected you before in a clan war thread where you mentioned S&M not being a top rate clan because we had recently made it back the top 3 after a short time not there. Called us the underdog in a race with an equally skilled clan. (We won in the end). I'm not digging through post history, but I remember things like that. Since it wasn't the first time, this one rubbed me the wrong way. I wouldn't have mentioned it if there wasn't previous context. So I hope it won't happen again.

You're a really good player, so I don't agree with other arguments on skill. There's prob a little anger with Josko over things that were said, got back through the grapevine, and shouldn't be aired on a public forum. But that's not for discussion here.

I meant it when I wished you guys luck with the new clan.

[Shannon Apple]

I think it’s accurate but alas get that crown back. GL with tofu

MT, you're being disingenuous and you've annoyed me. You know full well that it wasn't accurate, and the entire clan world knows it too. S&M didn't start with you and it doesn't end with you either. You're not as cute as you think you're being.

I wish you luck with the new clan and all, but stop talking down S&M. You were a clan leader most recently afterall, so you really should just concentrate on the clan you've made now. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

Wow not even what I was communicating here…this is the D400 and I was making a point about the “top” clans…read the chat before me…people were making jokes and puns about top. I like mags and was changing the subject lol. private message next time to clarify; I think that’s always best policy.

I regret nothing. Lol. I corrected you before in a clan war thread where you mentioned S&M not being a top rate clan because we had recently made it to the top 3 again. Called us the underdog in a race with an equally skilled clan. (We won in the end) I'm not digging through post history, but I remember things like that. Since it wasn't the first time, this one rubbed me the wrong way. I wouldn't have mentioned it if there wasn't previous context. So I hope it won't happen again. I just call things as I see them.

You're a really good player, so I don't agree with other arguments on skill. There's prob a little anger with Josko over not nice things that were said, got back through the grapevine, and shouldn't be aired on a public forum. But that's not for discussion here.

I meant it when I wished you guys luck with the new clan.

[josko.ri]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Then why didn't you kick him out before if he underperformed?
Nice to talk trash about your people after they leave, right?
How are the current ones taking your tantrums?

I didnt kuck him out, he left by himself

[i-andrei]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Then why didn't you kick him out before if he underperformed?
Nice to talk trash about your people after they leave, right?
How are the current ones taking your tantrums?

I didnt kuck him out, he left by himself

Pretending not to understand the question?

[xroads]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Its really ironic calling out someone for performance at critical times considering how many times you went AWOL when you couldn't handle the pressure and abandoned S&M.

How many times in the last 5 years have you done that? And what did it cost S&M each time you did it?

[i-andrei]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Its really ironic calling out someone for performance at critical times considering how many times you went AWOL when you couldn't handle the pressure and abandoned S&M.

How many times in the last 5 years have you done that? And what did it cost S&M each time you did it?

Can promise you josko is never going AWOL in the caps version of it

[Shannon Apple]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Its really ironic calling out someone for performance at critical times considering how many times you went AWOL when you couldn't handle the pressure and abandoned S&M.

How many times in the last 5 years have you done that? And what did it cost S&M each time you did it?

Look guys, stop it. I'm including Josko in that request. This didn't have to descend into personal attacks.

I know some things were said to people that shouldn't have been said. That's happened in private, (not directly, they got back to some ears) and now it's happening in public. Josko shouldn't have brought up MT's win rates or anything like that. It had nothing to do with the discussion and the MT didn't leave on bad terms. But you're going further below the belt, attacking someone over something they couldn't control. No one abandoned the clan. Josko might be one of the absolute best players on this site, but him taking time off the site was not abandoning S&M. He needed to, and some of you put him up on an unfair pedestal as a player. He should not be expected to carry his entire team in games and some people have done that. I have also taken time off CC because of various real life things. I am back now to play properly. First time I've been able to in ages, to be honest. CC is not real life, it is not a job. Anyone who takes it that seriously should seriously re-evaluate their priorities.

Now can people please stop attacking each other personally. That would be really nice.

[josko.ri]

Putting someones record on forum isnt offensive in any way unless if I told untrue data, is it?

Sure, why are you putting his clan record here, how is that relevant to the discussion above or the topic of this thread ?
Intent matter, not just fact. What was the purpose of putting his clan record except to imply he wasn't good ? Or maybe it was just another opportunity for you to show off since you followed with your own performance
And I completely disagree on what a clan leader role in a clan is, but that's a different story.

I just wanted to point out that S&M will become even stronger now, after a leader whose performance was mainly under 50% in key clan wars which are semis and finals of ccup (data is public so you can check these numbers by yourself if you are curious) has voluntarily left our Clan.

Its really ironic calling out someone for performance at critical times considering how many times you went AWOL when you couldn't handle the pressure and abandoned S&M.

How many times in the last 5 years have you done that? And what did it cost S&M each time you did it?

Two times ididnt play full attention to wars and both times we lose. However, second of these two times vs FALL 2021I still scored positive win ratio 4 wins of 7 games.

[loutil]

Top was very good that year which was also the year S&M started its ascension to the top but over time they started falling with eating bad tofu or something and fights with dragons(LHDD) or something…I aint lion on this one.

What? S&M may have went down the rankings a bit somewhere in the middle, but they did not start their ascension to the top then. I have been a member of S&M(KoRT) for 9 years now, and they were ranked no1 when I joined and had been in the top 3 for years. I find it weird that you would say that since you were a member of the clan for a while and should know it's history.

S&M and Tofu were the two most consistently on top of the rankings over the years. And yes, things change (as they should) and others get their time in the spotlight. We returned to the top for a while, but we were still a top 5 clan when we weren't on top. We'll get our crown back again in time, I tell ye. We'll have to work for it against some fantastic competition up there on top now, but we will.

Silly! Was just being whimsical with the various clan names with my story. Yep top 5 clans here all very solid

Puns are only clever when they are accurate, dear.

[iAmCaffeine]

well this is a weird feeling

[Nut Shot Scott]

This is some good stuff. I have a cup of coffee, a baseball game in the background and the hope that LION and S&M set up a war with each other.

[MTIceman41]

This is some good stuff. I have a cup of coffee, a baseball game in the background and the hope that LION and S&M set up a war with each other.

What about checking my Cup stats while you are at it? CC makes a pill for performance issues? Damn I pissed off doc brown(Edit I was bugging doc in another forum…obviously my comedy and lighthearted humor sucks so will stick to lifting and CC)…he probably could hook me up

That being said I agree with Shannon to not dive deep into the personal attacks on others…but you can poke fun at me it’s all good.

[Extreme Ways]

This is some good stuff. I have a cup of coffee, a baseball game in the background and the hope that LION and S&M set up a war with each other.

What about checking my Cup stats while you are at it? CC makes a pill for performance issues? Damn I pissed off doc brown…he probably could hook me up

That being said I agree with Shannon to not dive deep into the personal attacks on others…but you can poke fun at me it’s all good.

Why do you suddenly drag Doc into this then? I think Doc explained himself well enough in that thread, and if you think otherwise... head to that thread rather than this one.

Edit: I have since been informed via PM that this wasn't meant as a dig or attack at Doc.

[iAmCaffeine]

ignore the PM. it got lost. go go go go. a new contender

[Deanos75]

This thread is a poor advertisement for the top ranked clans....you guys (and girls) and are great at risk.....no question....but being in your clans does not look like it would be much fun??!!