Freestyle option is stupid

MattJW · Post by **MattJW** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:41 pm

Anybody agree?

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:51 pm

You are quite astute. Many agree.

Unfortunately, many also do not, and they'll probably try to flame you. Hopefully Twill will warn/ban those that do.

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:01 pm

No. While sequential is definitely more suitable for serious games (tournaments, callouts, etc.), one or two deadbeats can completely ruin them. While things will be slowed down either way, each deadbeat takes 72 hours out of a game. Frankly, I can only play 4 games at a time and I want them to all be active.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:29 pm

I agree, until freestyle is changed so people can't enforce double turns and play while someone else is playing at least.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:14 pm

It's going to be fixed. In the meantime, don't play it if you hate it. (Like me.)

Piestar · Post by **Piestar** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:25 pm

To each their own. I perfer Freestyle, but I have no quarrel with those who don't.

BaldAdonis · Post by **BaldAdonis** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:53 pm

MeDeFe wrote:...and play while someone else is playing at least.

But that's a huge appeal of freestyle games. Why would you want to get rid of it?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:58 pm

BaldAdonis wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:...and play while someone else is playing at least.

But that's a huge appeal of freestyle games. Why would you want to get rid of it?

QFT

Freestyle is OK, just not suited for everyone.

It doesn't suck, it's not stupid, it's different.

Post by **Evil Semp** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:03 pm

One of the best things about this site is there are different options for playing the games. Just play the options that you like. I do agree that the way it is played is what makes it interesting. Why change or eliminate it?

daisho · Post by **daisho** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:09 pm

well, you don't have to play freestyle games. To me it makes no difference, but I prefer sequential order. I lost a game since i was out for the day and all the people left went twice before i could go and knocked me out, but whatever it happens. If you don't like them don't play um.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:14 pm

It's good for a change of pace. I play one freestyle game for every 30 sequential I think.

It's all a matter of opinion tho.

Genghis Khan CA · Post by **Genghis Khan CA** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:30 pm

Meh - I hate playing freestyle myself, but I don't think it's stupid... although I think there are things that could be fixed to make it fairer in some settings, lack seems to be on the case though.

As many seem to be saying in this thread, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

Kugelblitz22 · Post by **Kugelblitz22** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:39 pm

MattJW wrote:Anybody agree?

Nice post Matt. Make this a poll next time. (I agree)

oVo · Post by **oVo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:32 am

I disagree, freestyle rocks! I don't play it much because it drives me fucking nuts,
but doing it in real time with four or more players is an absolutely great game.

except for 1v1 freestyle...which I do think is kind of pointless.

Turkmenbashi · Post by **Turkmenbashi** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:28 am

Freestyle is a dirty horrible cheaters' game full of horrible nasty people who hang around to go last, and horribler people who'll hang around like vultures to go first if they think they can knock someone out and take his cards! (and it makes me feel dirty because I do it too)

But yeah, I wouldn't really use freestyle for anything except casual games where you want to be able to beat some friends in a lazy afternoon.

borox0 · Post by **borox0** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:58 am

I like both but I only have the time to do sequential.

Kugelblitz22 · Post by **Kugelblitz22** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:10 am

I think part of the reason freestyle disappointed me is the name is misleading. Freestyle implies you will be playing an improvisational, unpredictable game.
Unfortunately players have figured out how to exploit every loophole inherent to the freestyle timing system and play a very regimented schedule. The result is formulaic, pedantic and boring.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:19 am

oVo wrote:except for 1v1 freestyle...which I do think is kind of pointless.

That's bullshit. Freestyle 1v1 is so much better than sequential because whoever goes first in sequential 1v1 should win.

And freestyle is the best.

oVo · Post by **oVo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:04 am

Actually all of the 1v1 is kind of pointless for exactly that reason.

yorkiepeter · Post by **yorkiepeter** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:14 am

freestyle teams gives regular players such a huge advantage that they are almost certain to win. thats fine but it gives them an articially high position on the scoreboard, therefore i don't think points should be awarded for them.

amazzony · Post by **amazzony** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:41 am

Ain't agreeing. I like to play doubles and freestyle for the exact reason that it gives me and my partner a feeling that we are actually working together when we can take turns at the same time. And yes, it gives us an advantage over teams who can't log in at the same time. But this is our strong side and I don't think that it's stupid. Though I must admit that I don't like the tactics that people use to make others miss turns and stuff like that (but at the same time I'm not blaming them because it's just another way to win).

And as it is said - if you don't like the low tricks that are used in freestyles or you just don't like how it works then you don't have to play them

Btw, I like this post

Evil Semp wrote:One of the best things about this site is there are different options for playing the games. Just play the options that you like. I do agree that the way it is played is what makes it interesting. Why change or eliminate it?

owenshooter · Post by **owenshooter** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:53 am

i played a few triples games with my regular partners, freestyle.. it was fun, but we soon learned to watch the board to see as soon as the last of our opponents was offline and then blew through turns... after a few victories, it just wasn't THAT much fun or worth the points. we sit on skype and or the real phone during our turns as it is, the social aspect is what we are after conquer club. oh, that and kicking mucho ass!!! sooo, i understand why people like freestyle, but i think the outside factors and gamesmanship make it less about skill on the board and more about figuring out how to screw your opponent...-0

Zemljanin · Post by **Zemljanin** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:25 pm

firth4eva wrote:
oVo wrote:except for 1v1 freestyle...which I do think is kind of pointless.

That's bullshit. Freestyle 1v1 is so much better than sequential because whoever goes first in sequential 1v1 should win.

And freestyle is the best.

Wait a minute! I thought that in freestyle last player can't play first in next round...
If I'm right, then you're wrong.

Rogue42 · Post by **Rogue42** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:09 pm

daisho wrote:well, you don't have to play freestyle games. To me it makes no difference, but I prefer sequential order. I lost a game since i was out for the day and all the people left went twice before i could go and knocked me out, but whatever it happens. If you don't like them don't play um.

This doesn't make sense. In Freestyle you still have up to 24 hours to take your turn.

I play both, I like freestyle games because they can go quicker. I like taking several turns in a day as opposed to a large several player game that I only get to go every couple of days. Sure you can abuse (use to your advantage) the system, but that is part of the game.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:23 pm

Zemljanin wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
oVo wrote:except for 1v1 freestyle...which I do think is kind of pointless.

That's bullshit. Freestyle 1v1 is so much better than sequential because whoever goes first in sequential 1v1 should win.

And freestyle is the best.

Wait a minute! I thought that in freestyle last player can't play first in next round...
If I'm right, then you're wrong.

yes but you can play at the same time in freestyle

Freestyle option is stupid

Freestyle option is stupid

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Re: Freestyle option is stupid

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