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Re: Thailand

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:24 pm
by natty dread
porkenbeans wrote:
The Bison King wrote:I still feel like you should either pick the cultural icons or the royal army thing, but having both to me seems like over kill.
2nd.


agreed

Re: Thailand

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:07 pm
by Industrial Helix
We also need tentative bonus amounts.

And I agree about the cultural icons versus the armies.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:23 pm
by grifftron
Industrial Helix wrote:We also need tentative bonus amounts.

And I agree about the cultural icons versus the armies.


Well which ones do you all seem to like? I wish Farang was around, but he went out of the country for a week or 2. Let me know what you all are thinking.

I didn't put bonus amounts on yet either, was looking for some opinions.

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:29 pm
by Industrial Helix
I'd rather have army regions... as for the bonuses, use the calculator. viewtopic.php?f=466&t=123978

Re: Thailand

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:51 pm
by grifftron
Industrial Helix wrote:I'd rather have army regions... as for the bonuses, use the calculator. viewtopic.php?f=466&t=123978



Well I took the cultural Icons off for now, they might be back once Farang gets back to defend them, maybe we can work something out.

I also used nattys calculator, they seem to be a little higher then i thought they would be... still a neat tool tho.

I also thickened the boarders, 2px. I think I will take them down to 1px wide... look too thick. I just wanted to make all the boarders even for now.

[bigimg]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/4997240163_967b679f3a_b.jpg[/bigimg]

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:11 am
by porkenbeans

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:16 am
by grifftron
porkenbeans wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=466&t=126955#p2782532



I am guessing you are referring to the Kings Symbol in the top left corner... drop a shadow better?

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:13 am
by porkenbeans
grifftron wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=466&t=126955#p2782532



I am guessing you are referring to the Kings Symbol in the top left corner... drop a shadow better?

-griff
:D
And if you want to punch it up even more, put an inner glow on the edge as well.

Re: Thailand Map

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:35 am
by historyhaggis
Raskholnikov wrote:Why don't you use temple sites instead of territories? Thailand is famous for its many amazing temples, and you can choose pretty much the number you want. Right now you'd have in once case to conquer 21 territories to have one region.


Personally, I think that would make the map stand out. An entire map based on temple locations.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:26 pm
by theBastard
will be there also sweet thailand girls...? :lol:

Re: Thailand Map

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:15 pm
by grifftron
historyhaggis wrote:
Raskholnikov wrote:Why don't you use temple sites instead of territories? Thailand is famous for its many amazing temples, and you can choose pretty much the number you want. Right now you'd have in once case to conquer 21 territories to have one region.


Personally, I think that would make the map stand out. An entire map based on temple locations.


Meh... There were around 12 Thai symbols (and a temple) that i just took off before you commented. The map was "too crowded" and majority of people that look at this map said take them off. So i took them off for now, maybe they will come back later.

theBastard wrote:will be there also sweet thailand girls...? :lol:


There was a sweet Thai girl symbol in Chonburi (AKA Pattaya). Off for now unless people want the cultural symbols back.

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:31 pm
by Industrial Helix
Industrial Helix wrote:Ok, the big things holding this map from moving on are:

Tentative bonus values.
The four corner border in the pink region
More names need to fit onto the territories they represent, if only partially fit on there
I'd like to get an idea of how well the small map is going to look and whether things will likely fit or not


Check
Check
Check
Check... time to move on.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:34 pm
by The Bison King
=D> Congratulations

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:40 pm
by army of nobunaga
I lived rather worked for a bit in north Thailand area... this is pretty accurate map from my memory. There are of course a shitload more temples and such but I think you did a nice job.

The "royal thai army" well they basically give the US a fence and run the mess and such for the us/allies intel and soldiers. But this looks really cool.


btw this was posted "

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Re: Thailand Map

Postby grifftron on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:10 pm
That would be interesting, a map of all 5 countries, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Burma"

he is right... a lot of those inland borders dont really exist so much... its more just a general area.


anyway, looks like a ton of work, and thank you.. cant wait to play it.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:23 pm
by grifftron
Industrial Helix wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:Ok, the big things holding this map from moving on are:

Tentative bonus values.
The four corner border in the pink region
More names need to fit onto the territories they represent, if only partially fit on there
I'd like to get an idea of how well the small map is going to look and whether things will likely fit or not


Check
Check
Check
Check... time to move on.



Thanks IH. Appreciate it.

So... gameplay!

army of nobunaga wrote:I lived rather worked for a bit in north Thailand area... this is pretty accurate map from my memory. There are of course a shitload more temples and such but I think you did a nice job.

The "royal thai army" well they basically give the US a fence and run the mess and such for the us/allies intel and soldiers. But this looks really cool.


btw this was posted "

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Re: Thailand Map

Postby grifftron on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:10 pm
That would be interesting, a map of all 5 countries, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and Burma"

he is right... a lot of those inland borders dont really exist so much... its more just a general area.


anyway, looks like a ton of work, and thank you.. cant wait to play it.


Yeah Thailand is full of temples, but it is also full of tons of other things people think of when they think of Thailand.. which is why we had the cultural symbols, i believe they might come back in some sort of form once Farang is able to comment on them.

Off the subject, i have lived in Thailand 5+ years working, and Farang i believe has been here even longer, and he knows a lot about the land and the ideas coming for bonuses and mountain impassables were his ideas, this map is pretty accurate, except for some terts we had to merge, but as for mountain ranges, those are pretty much on the spot

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:25 pm
by army of nobunaga
nice man... I have not googled it, and my comments were just from memory, and I tend to be dumb with memory, but it all looks dead on. Lots of realy cool maps coming through the system. Im pretty excited.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:07 am
by grifftron
Now that I am in game play i pretty much just wait for someone to critique the game play as it is correct?

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:25 am
by natty dread
A good way to proceed IMO:

1) wait for comments
2) if you do not get comments, make some change - people either like or dislike it, but will comment either way
3) make changes based on feedback
4) go back to 1

Re: Thailand

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:29 am
by grifftron
natty_dread wrote:A good way to proceed IMO:

1) wait for comments
2) if you do not get comments, make some change - people either like or dislike it, but will comment either way
3) make changes based on feedback
4) go back to 1



Ok thanks natty... now this is me waiting 8-)

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:13 pm
by Evil DIMwit
Central Plains and Bangkok Metro are overvalued -- they're too small for bonusese that large. They should be worth at most 4 each, I think, unless someone can offer an argument for more.
Likewise, I don't think Upper Mekong deserve more than 3, or Khorat Basin or Lower North more than 6.

Moreover I think you could use an airport in the South since even with the Chakri Naruebet that's a formidable bottleneck there.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:30 pm
by grifftron
Evil DIMwit wrote:Central Plains and Bangkok Metro are overvalued -- they're too small for bonusese that large. They should be worth at most 4 each, I think, unless someone can offer an argument for more.
Likewise, I don't think Upper Mekong deserve more than 3, or Khorat Basin or Lower North more than 6.

Moreover I think you could use an airport in the South since even with the Chakri Naruebet that's a formidable bottleneck there.



Ok, that was what the tert values came to when i used nattys bonus calc. These can change, I thought they looked high as well, and i was thinking of putting an airport in Nakonsithammarat (That is where my wife is from, and we flew into that airport before)... but what if CM airport connected to BKK and BKK connected to Nakhon Airport? instead of having all 3 connect, because there is no flight that goes from CM to Nakhon directly, you always have to fly into BKK first.

Edit: nvm about airport in Nakhon, maybe put 1 in Trang instead, there is 1 there too, if it doesn't have to be an actual real airport location we could put 1 in the deep south instead of Trang.

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:50 pm
by Evil DIMwit
grifftron wrote:but what if CM airport connected to BKK and BKK connected to Nakhon Airport? instead of having all 3 connect, because there is no flight that goes from CM to Nakhon directly, you always have to fly into BKK first.

If that's what you want, as long as it's not too confusing on the legend.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:55 pm
by army of nobunaga
as far as location.. these cats are dead on imo... ill look at gameplay but at my first 5 mins looking at the map it looked solid.

Re: Thailand

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:16 pm
by grifftron
army of nobunaga wrote:as far as location.. these cats are dead on imo... ill look at gameplay but at my first 5 mins looking at the map it looked solid.



Yea Farang did a great job with locations / names along with mtn ranges.

-griff

Re: Thailand

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:59 am
by grifftron
Ok updated.

Added an airport in Trang. updated the Key according to what airports connect with each other, changed the values a bit according to the post above.

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-griff