Alien Mafia (5/8) Endgame. Town Wins.

[thechuck51]

I would vote no mass claim (even if it is just character names) on day 1. It just seems to go against the spirit of a mafia game. what would be the point of sending out roles secretly if we are just going to let the cat out of the bag on day 1?

[jak111]

True, but it's only an option. Not mandatory. If the alien is a cult recruiter.. I'm not sure how those work but I'm pretty sure we'd be screwed. (1 alien, + maybe 1 SK (ash)) We'd be having 2 aliens and 1 SK against 5 humans by D2.. That wouldn't sit well with me.

Another option is we can No Lynch and see how the night fairs out, but again, we could end up almost out numbered tomorrow if that is the case.

[thechuck51]

unvote vote no-lynch

There has to be a couple investigative roles and I think the chances of one of them catching scum tonight is better than our chances of lynching scum today.

[freezie]

No way there is a recruiter + sk here. That's leave us at LYLO by tomorow.

[spiesr]

There has to be a couple investigative roles and I think the chances of one of them catching scum tonight is better than our chances of lynching scum today.

Can you elaborate on why you think that the hypothetical cop (and there probably is not more than 1) has a better chance of finding a scum and surviving long enough to tell us about it than we do a lynching correctly?

[thechuck51]

There has to be a couple investigative roles and I think the chances of one of them catching scum tonight is better than our chances of lynching scum today.

Can you elaborate on why you think that the hypothetical cop (and there probably is not more than 1) has a better chance of finding a scum and surviving long enough to tell us about it than we do a lynching correctly?

I would guess there is some combination of a cop and tracker, or a tracker and a watcher, or cop and a watcher. At the minimum we must have at least one investigative role right?

Assuming Alien and Ash are scum we have a 2 in 8 (25%) chance of lynching one of them.

Our "cop" has a 2 in 7 (29%) chance of spotting scum at night while the mafia has a 1 in 6 (17%) chance of NK'ing him.

the 29% choice give us the best chance.

[spiesr]

I would guess there is some combination of a cop and tracker, or a tracker and a watcher, or cop and a watcher. At the minimum we must have at least one investigative role right?

Assuming Alien and Ash are scum we have a 2 in 8 (25%) chance of lynching one of them.

Our "cop" has a 2 in 7 (29%) chance of spotting scum at night while the mafia has a 1 in 6 (17%) chance of NK'ing him.

the 29% choice give us the best chance.

Working off your assumptions of non-town numbers, my math says that the chances of the cop finding a scum and not being killed come out at around 24%. Although, if we have a doctor the number goes up somewhat...

[safariguy5]

There has to be a couple investigative roles and I think the chances of one of them catching scum tonight is better than our chances of lynching scum today.

Can you elaborate on why you think that the hypothetical cop (and there probably is not more than 1) has a better chance of finding a scum and surviving long enough to tell us about it than we do a lynching correctly?

I would guess there is some combination of a cop and tracker, or a tracker and a watcher, or cop and a watcher. At the minimum we must have at least one investigative role right?

Assuming Alien and Ash are scum we have a 2 in 8 (25%) chance of lynching one of them.

Our "cop" has a 2 in 7 (29%) chance of spotting scum at night while the mafia has a 1 in 6 (17%) chance of NK'ing him.

the 29% choice give us the best chance.

You're making the assumption that Ash is mafia or at least anti town. That is unconfirmed. Also, you seem to suggest we may have more than one investigative role. That depends on game balance.

But I agree, SK AND cult recruiter is too much. I simply raise the possibility of the Alien as being a cult recruiter because of flavor, but if we are assuming that Ash is anti town as well, then Traitor+SKer seems more likely.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

There has to be a couple investigative roles and I think the chances of one of them catching scum tonight is better than our chances of lynching scum today.

Can you elaborate on why you think that the hypothetical cop (and there probably is not more than 1) has a better chance of finding a scum and surviving long enough to tell us about it than we do a lynching correctly?

I would guess there is some combination of a cop and tracker, or a tracker and a watcher, or cop and a watcher. At the minimum we must have at least one investigative role right?

Assuming Alien and Ash are scum we have a 2 in 8 (25%) chance of lynching one of them.

Our "cop" has a 2 in 7 (29%) chance of spotting scum at night while the mafia has a 1 in 6 (17%) chance of NK'ing him.

the 29% choice give us the best chance.

You're making the assumption that Ash is mafia or at least anti town. That is unconfirmed. Also, you seem to suggest we may have more than one investigative role. That depends on game balance.

But I agree, SK AND cult recruiter is too much. I simply raise the possibility of the Alien as being a cult recruiter because of flavor, but if we are assuming that Ash is anti town as well, then Traitor+SKer seems more likely.

what if the sk and recruiter is one person.

[Iron Butterfly]

That would be rather silly. An SK kills and eliminates. A recruiter recruits to their side.

For the sake of game balance I do not beleive there would be both.

I think we are reading to much into how the charachter and movie will effect gameplay. No matter what flavor or game theme it is first and foremost a mafia game.

Somthing did cross my mind about the cop. I would be curious as to how ash and an alien would turn out. I would think Human vs Not Human.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

That would be rather silly. An SK kills and eliminates. A recruiter recruits to their side.

For the sake of game balance I do not beleive there would be both.

I think we are reading to much into how the charachter and movie will effect gameplay. No matter what flavor or game theme it is first and foremost a mafia game.

Somthing did cross my mind about the cop. I would be curious as to how ash and an alien would turn out. I would think Human vs Not Human.

ya i guess it is a little silly huh.

[strike wolf]

[quote="strike wolf"]Vote count

Jak
Spiesr (1)-freezie
Clever (1)-Jak
no lynch (1)-chuck

with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Two days to deadline.

[spiesr]

Well, since nobody has come forward and claimed to be Ash, I am more or less assuming that he is not pro-town. Based on this assumption I suggest that we use our limited time remaining today to make people name-claim until we can force him out.

[jak111]

Well I'm Lambert. I'm not gonna role claim but that's the name. So I can guarantee that there's movie characters here.

Anyone else feel like claiming a non-movie character to help us settle this part?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well I'm Lambert. I'm not gonna role claim but that's the name. So I can guarantee that there's movie characters here.

Anyone else feel like claiming a non-movie character to help us settle this part?

im thinking about it.

[thechuck51]

Well, since nobody has come forward and claimed to be Ash, I am more or less assuming that he is not pro-town. Based on this assumption I suggest that we use our limited time remaining today to make people name-claim until we can force him out.

Arrr, I be Orange Beard the Pirate (just kidding)

Since this is your idea shouldn't you be setting the example for everybody else and name-claiming?

[safariguy5]

I'm fine with a name claim, I'm Ripley, so def a movie character.

[jak111]

I'm fine with a name claim, I'm Ripley, so def a movie character.

Well, guess we're the two females.. XD

Time to see what other movie characters come forward.

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm Dallas.

[spiesr]

I am Kane, so if all other leads fail I guess we could lynch me today on the off chance that I am infected,

Since this is your idea shouldn't you be setting the example for everybody else and name-claiming?

Just wanted to see if anyone was actually going to go through with it before I claimed myself.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

i am brett.

[freezie]

why do I feel this is going to screw the whole game down..Either in our favor, either deeply against us.....

Parker.

[jak111]

Hmm...this is interesting.

There are 8 players here, one of which would be the Alien.

There were 7 crew members,

Dallas ~ IB
Kane ~ Spiesr
Lambert ~ Jak
Ripley ~ Saf
Ash
Brett ~ S7C
Parker ~ Freezie

However, according to the scene flavor, Kane is already dead. Therefore, who is the last player supposed to be? Could be the cat I suppose.

Also, we have to wonder at whether Ash would be considered a townie or not.

Only Chuck & Nagerous left to claim One's Ash, and either the other is going to counter claim someone or claim something else ;p

[nagerous]

why do I feel this is going to screw the whole game down..Either in our favor, either deeply against us.....

Parker.

Well there's one liar there as I am parker -vote mr freeze

[Some7hingCLEVER]

why do I feel this is going to screw the whole game down..Either in our favor, either deeply against us.....

Parker.

Well there's one liar there as I am parker -vote mr freeze

vote freezie if he ends up parker then we are gonna win so this should be easy. .