Conquer Club

hulmey wrote:even i being a complete freestyle escalating NOOB would have blocked scott-land from entering aussie!! (to get the steal). It looked suspicious at the time and i stated as much in game chat but i never knew the realtionship red and bruce had with scott-land.

Bruceswar wrote:Humley,
There are many games, where these top players only chance to win is to steal is a kill. That is how it works sometimes. They miss dice on one front, so they wait for some one else to try and come for the steal. Just the way these games are. Quit whining and take you loses like the rest of us when it happens. It has happened, to every player who plays these with any regularity.

InsomniaRed wrote:

hulmey wrote:even i being a complete freestyle escalating NOOB would have blocked scott-land from entering aussie!! (to get the steal). It looked suspicious at the time and i stated as much in game chat but i never knew the realtionship red and bruce had with scott-land.

Yeah you don't really have much to back up your research, huh? Scott was already in Aussie....
Here is a bit from ROUND 1:
2008-08-03 20:22:30 - Scott-Land deployed 1 armies on Eastern Australia

Just letting you know. Can we drop this yet?

hulmey wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:Humley,
There are many games, where these top players only chance to win is to steal is a kill. That is how it works sometimes. They miss dice on one front, so they wait for some one else to try and come for the steal. Just the way these games are. Quit whining and take you loses like the rest of us when it happens. It has happened, to every player who plays these with any regularity.

whining lol...if you want to flame take it to the correct forum!! Im just helping the hunters get clued up a little. Doing my service to CC in trying to get rid of all the cheats.

Bruceswar wrote:

hulmey wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:Humley,
There are many games, where these top players only chance to win is to steal is a kill. That is how it works sometimes. They miss dice on one front, so they wait for some one else to try and come for the steal. Just the way these games are. Quit whining and take you loses like the rest of us when it happens. It has happened, to every player who plays these with any regularity.

whining lol...if you want to flame take it to the correct forum!! Im just helping the hunters get clued up a little. Doing my service to CC in trying to get rid of all the cheats.

You fail to miss the point totally. There is no cheating when someone steals your kill. This is just the nature of the game. I happens in about every game, a kill is stolen.

Bruceswar wrote:Hulmey,
If the mods are experts, they would be better ranked? No offense to King A or any of the others, but many of them are lower ranked. Do not tell me they are too busy with mod jobs, to win a few games.

angola wrote:I don't know if they are cheating or not, but I know Bruceswar really doesn't like to be eliminated as is evidenced by this:

Game Game 3175642

jiminski wrote:there is a very handy gamelink button.

angola wrote:I don't know if they are cheating or not, but I know Bruceswar really doesn't like to be eliminated as is evidenced by this:

Game Game 3175642

angola wrote:I don't know if they are cheating or not, but I know Bruceswar really doesn't like to be eliminated as is evidenced by this:

Game 3175642

hulmey wrote:

Bruceswar wrote:Hulmey,
If the mods are experts, they would be better ranked? No offense to King A or any of the others, but many of them are lower ranked. Do not tell me they are too busy with mod jobs, to win a few games.

you really know how to get people behind your cause

maxatstuy wrote:Scott, I find it amazing how much information you can bend to make it appear bruce didnt cheat when it is so obvious he did. I reviewed both of the games after reading your post and, while I believe that king may have made a mistake when reading the game logs in the first link you mentioned as it is pretty clear that other people blocked him from making it, in the second link you commented on, there is not one piece of logic to your argument. bruce was going for the kill and only had 2 territories left to attack in order to kill demonfork and possibly win the game. However, instead of attacking them, he waited over 4 seconds for you to cash and take him out before you could make it. I dont care how slow bruce claims he is, no one is that slow or that stupid. He gave you the game and there is nothing else to it.

Furthermore, your argument has no legitimacy in that same game because even if he successfully took Middle east, he would only be helping make it easier for you as Anomander had another territory left which bruce couldnt have gotten to.

Congratulations Scott. In the 50+ links king provided, you found 2 games that you considered bad examples, thats less than 4% of his links, and one of them was you clearly coming up with bs in order to make you appear that you have a case. You are a cheat scott and it is about time someone took action against you.

Oh, and to the other people who are trying to justify scotts innocence based upon the possibility that I was the person who posted the thread, evidence is evidence and just because you dont have any that can support scott because he is so clearly wrong, dont call it vengeful. Btw, king changed his password a month ago, I dont even know it and couldnt have written that post on his account even if I wanted to. But still, nice try attempting to create a diversion to prevent people from realize how guilty scott and bruce really are

delboy01 wrote:I'm not involved in anyway with the accused or the accusers however, having searched though games involving a lot of those defending the accused and slating the accusers it would seem that they all play or have played together in some form.

Indeed the accusers have played 100's of games with those they have accused, even doubles and trebles.........Up until recently that is. It seems that they may have recently 'fallen out' with the group of secret alliance partners (yes I said group). That is how they know that the two are cheating. They used to be part of it. Indeed someone mentions that 'player X no longer has scotts love'.

Although win stats could be construed as misleading when a small sample is taken the shear number of games played and the win percentages in 8 player games for these players makes a compelling case. when a player has a win percentage of 36%, which includes singles and low player number games but has a win rate of 40-50% in 8 player games with certain players and the other players also win a high percentage of those games it begins to look a bit smelly.

Infact some of the games look very strange. Player A wins a high percentage of games played with player B. Player C wins most of the games played with player A and suprisingly, or not, player B wins the majority of games played with player C. A kind of round robin of cheating if you like.

I will e-ticket the players concerned to the admins for them to look into (i'm still looking) but I must say that the secret allience cases are very difficult to prove and this one seems to involve several very highly rated players. But then maybe thats why they are highly rated.

hulmey wrote:Game number 2977037. insomina Red set me up for the kill so that scot could get back in the game. It was very clear what she had done and when i asked her, she said it was a mistake!!!! Very very convenient mistake for one who plays on these settings all the time. They are all cheaters!!

2008-08-04 04:12:03 - hulmey: u been auto attacking all game then u try and kill me by using only the attack!!!

InsomniaRed wrote:

FabledIntegral wrote:Oh... oh... I swear I'm part of that group! Include me in the e-ticket please. Look I'm even part of Insom's signature... investigate me plzz!

Yes you are, yet so it KG and look what he's up to now

dandrobie wrote:Mmm... looks like this is getting no where.. .

Why cant the mods just spend some time on this and close the case...

happy2seeyou wrote:

dandrobie wrote:Mmm... looks like this is getting no where.. .

Why cant the mods just spend some time on this and close the case...

I'm sure they are spending time on this. Just because they are not posting doesn't mean they are not doing anything. They don't want to post until they have something to say.

Capt Crosshair wrote:He alway's did seem to have an "edge" to him, not to mention his vindictive and snobby addatude. Thanks, and he's on my foe's list

Scott-Land wrote:

happy2seeyou wrote:

dandrobie wrote:Mmm... looks like this is getting no where.. .

Why cant the mods just spend some time on this and close the case...

I'm sure they are spending time on this. Just because they are not posting doesn't mean they are not doing anything. They don't want to post until they have something to say.

I think they need an impartial speed freestyle player to help them analyze the logs- none come to mind outside of Phlaims. He rails a lot of speed freestyle games and we haven't played but a handful... no real history between us.

dandrobie wrote:Mmm... looks like this is getting no where.. .

Why cant the mods just spend some time on this and close the case...