Conquer Club

Endgame422 wrote:I cant imagine anything major will come from N0 actions.
And honestly waiting for TFO to write the scene might cost us half the day so id rather not hold my breath on that front.
And what is this PT?

ptlowe wrote:vote dakky on drug lords behalf

Also interesting is this comment. I can't imagine anything major will come from no actions...and yet here we have the suggestion that Mitch may be mafia because do to a "major" action he seems not able to speak.
Endgame seems to be waiting like an expectant dad for the day scent to be posted yet downplaying it's significance.

BIG FoS to those wondering where Mitch is after he confirmed yet before actual scene was posted.

We have 4 days left kiddies. I really believe endgame is scum.

Endgame422 wrote:

rishaed wrote: Modnote: As far As i'm concerned, there is nobody who currently needs a Prod. (Madmitch included).

Huh.
This makes me think mitch probably is restricted.
The question is what does that mean?
Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?
It seems like a smart play because he gets a pass D1 and cant make a slip,of course theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements to be made here so we cant know anything for sure,but i still think its worth considering especially since mitch seems to be the prime target today.

thats what ive sid before he may not be post restricted fo the full day most liley for only a portian of the day ie 50% or 75% or mayble only able to post between cctime x and cc time y

im also vote endgame because i dont like that even after more or less being told mmitch is in fact post restricted he still says oh well lets kill hi jsut because that dont look good

dakky21 wrote:So I was right, he got post restriction after all!

Anyway, don't judge so quickly endgame, he can be town as well, and if I had the ability to shut someone up, I'd use a random.org.

if i could shut soeone up it would be me as ive always seemed to get myself into trouble

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Endgame422 wrote:

rishaed wrote: Modnote: As far As i'm concerned, there is nobody who currently needs a Prod. (Madmitch included).

Huh.
This makes me think mitch probably is restricted.
The question is what does that mean?
Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?
It seems like a smart play because he gets a pass D1 and cant make a slip,of course theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements to be made here so we cant know anything for sure,but i still think its worth considering especially since mitch seems to be the prime target today.

Vote endgame

Talk about scum move. You imply there is a good shot he is mafia because that would be a smart mafia move without saying right out he is mafia. You seem to be implanting your speculative notion in the hopes someone else will pic up it's banner. Mitch has not been the prime target. What he has been is the central focus of conversation due to the wording of the night scene. The mod all but confirmed that Mitch does not need a prod, which tells me his silence has nothing to do with him not being present to play.

You believe he is restricted? Fine. I think we can all gather that from what has transpired. Your stating the obvious.

If Mitch truly is restricted he has been placed at the mercy of the restriction. Mafia would have no need to restrict themselves as they could easily fake it but that would be stupid as well. The number one reason people tend to vote someone scum is their lack of posting and laying low...aka scummarining.

Third party could be involved as well for all we know. But I digress.

In summation you are suggesting that Mitch was silenced by mafia so he does not open his mouth, so he does not make some slip up so people do not suspect he is mafia.
Sounds to me like mafia would say to get an innocent Townie lynched, who has no way to defend himself. Nice use of his meta by the way.

I support this.
Also, mod intervening on a madmitch lynch means he does not want mitch to be lynched because of a post restriction.

Unvote, vote endgame

Hey guys just finished up with last minute tax filings. Ill be around tonight for sure.

PT

for me lynching mitch d1 is a no go. Lets hope he can speak tomorrow and tell us about the post restriction. else what is the plan? kill anyone who gets a post restriction? at some point i guess we would want to know what happens right? seems best to me to let that be the first day, cause there is no argument other then the post restriction to lynch mitch.

TimWoodbury wrote:thats what ive sid before he may not be post restricted fo the full day most liley for only a portian of the day ie 50% or 75% or mayble only able to post between cctime x and cc time y

im also vote endgame because i dont like that even after more or less being told mmitch is in fact post restricted he still says oh well lets kill hi jsut because that dont look good

@timwoodbury
couple of beers? non english (though profile says USA)? arabic keyboard?

think endgame is gonna have to do some explaining. to quick to to strange conclusions.

@ aage, thanks for putting me in my place, I missed that page
@ dakky, I really don't believe you would use random.org if you had a chance to silence Mitch, given the special relationship between the two of you

unvote vote Endgame for flawed reasoning

@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

Marashu wrote:@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

Care to explain what half of the players in this game did to get onto your scum list?

It's 4 votes on Endgame, one vote and it's a lynch, let him claim before hammering please. It does look fairly grim for him though. IB's point is correct, making the wifom case here is ridiculous.


Also, whoever gave Mitch the post restriction. If you are town, DON'T USE IT AGAIN.

aage wrote:It's 4 votes on Endgame, one vote and it's a lynch, let him claim before hammering please. It does look fairly grim for him though. IB's point is correct, making the wifom case here is ridiculous.

Lel, confused with the F11 game where 9 are alive. We have 14, plenty of room.

Vote endgame

Streaker wrote:

Marashu wrote:@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

Care to explain what half of the players in this game did to get onto your scum list?

Which half? I kid, I kid.

strike - didn't like how strike was trying to pressure mitch to speak up by voting. If mitch was inactive, which was consensus at the time, then no amount of voting would accomplish anything. Feels like this was an attempt to look town, more than anything.
bosaa and aage - this one started, for me anyway, with the exchange when bosaa voted for wing. aage points out how scummy it is, then seems to back off too easily. bosaa then wagons End, with no real reasoning. Looking back, aage jokes about procedural voting, and bosaa seems to take it for being real. My main reason for aage being on the list, I'll admit, is because of the interactions with bosaa, and how it feels like experienced mafia coaching newer mafia.
Streaker - might just be tunneling here, I'll think about it at work. I do like his reasoning for posting the list of N0 stuff. Did not like the mitch wagon. Weakest of my reads, but this one makes the most sense to me to fill in my #4 slot.

fp'd by aage
Vote Aage

Marashu wrote:bosaa and aage - this one started, for me anyway, with the exchange when bosaa voted for wing. aage points out how scummy it is, then seems to back off too easily. bosaa then wagons End, with no real reasoning. Looking back, aage jokes about procedural voting, and bosaa seems to take it for being real. My main reason for aage being on the list, I'll admit, is because of the interactions with bosaa, and how it feels like experienced mafia coaching newer mafia.

So basically the only reason was that I backed off Bosaard too easily. If you go back to page 6 you'll find that the disagreement was turning into a debate on semantics. My point was made, no need to reword it ad infinitum. I may also have let Bos off the hook because I know she is new.

Still, most of your reasons are based on bosaard's actions, not mine. Now that I've voted Endgame you think I'm suddenly the scummiest of the bunch, since you voted me. Care to explain that?

Marashu wrote:@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

As I stated earlier one of the main arguments people use to make a case that someone is mafia is because of their silence or lack of participation. It does not prove one is mafia but it certianly is a knee jerk reaction that forms a bandwagon quickest. The reason that I vited Endgame was the way he put fourth the idea that Mitch was mafia without committing with a vote. Could I be wrong. Yup but this is day one with no one posting anything substantial and with nothing but the "wheres Mitch" group as the days event.

Marashu wrote:

Streaker wrote:

Marashu wrote:@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

Care to explain what half of the players in this game did to get onto your scum list?

Which half? I kid, I kid.

strike - didn't like how strike was trying to pressure mitch to speak up by voting. If mitch was inactive, which was consensus at the time, then no amount of voting would accomplish anything. Feels like this was an attempt to look town, more than anything.
bosaa and aage - this one started, for me anyway, with the exchange when bosaa voted for wing. aage points out how scummy it is, then seems to back off too easily. bosaa then wagons End, with no real reasoning. Looking back, aage jokes about procedural voting, and bosaa seems to take it for being real. My main reason for aage being on the list, I'll admit, is because of the interactions with bosaa, and how it feels like experienced mafia coaching newer mafia.
Streaker - might just be tunneling here, I'll think about it at work. I do like his reasoning for posting the list of N0 stuff. Did not like the mitch wagon. Weakest of my reads, but this one makes the most sense to me to fill in my #4 slot.

fp'd by aage
Vote Aage

You were so eager to give reads, and called literally half of the players scum. Then you get called out, and manage to provide some weaksauce reasons for all of them. The one who calles you out, you go easy on in your analysis. I also don't agree it was a bad idea to pressure mitch, as we cannot know he is inactive or has a post restriction. We pressured to gain information.

I suppose you do provide a decent reasoning on the bosaard-aage interaction. I don't agree with it, but I do see what you mean.

In general really not liking what you are posting

Marashu wrote:[color="FF0000"]Unvote[/color]

Since we're making actual cases now (well, as actual as D1 cases are), my FoS is Streaker.

Streaker wrote:Dakky, I don't think this game starts on D1, but on N0.

Feels to me like Streaker wants to make sure that N0 isn't overlooked and spans the full 48 hours. The former is fine, since that's helpful for town. The latter seems pretty scummy to me, since only the mafia really benefit from a full N0. If posting votes was a problem, the mod would've put a stop to it.

This is another post that needs more attention. When called out, Mars failed to reference this post in why I am scummy to him.

The post itself is also completely dragged, as I was simply informing the players that this game has no Daystart (something very very unusual here on CC). Even if I was trying to make sure we got the Nightstart, that cannot be referenced to a mafia play.

We'll see where the endgame wagon goes, but expect me to push this later.

TimWoodbury wrote:

strike wolf wrote:I would rather talk about the players than the night actions.

slight fos Streaker and Endgame

unvote vote Mitch to see if we can get him to say something.

you suspect streak and EG yt vote mitch i can see the wanting him to talk but seems we have concluded that he cant speak for x amount of time or something im shure when he can spea he will speak and expain it all to us and confuse the hell out of us

We had confirmed nothing at the time of this post. We had speculation. We weren't even sure that it was Mitch. I tried to goad a reaction just to see if I could get one. I said as much in the post. What I didn't say is that it wasn't just Mitch I was testing for the reaction. Don't worry thouogh. I am not writing this to jump down your throat. If anything this post makes you sound more like new townie jumping to the conclusion of another than anything else.

Streaker wrote:I see that my comment on virus being 99% town has triggered a few of you. Why would I not read him as town? I have a very strong read on virus from previous games, and have high confidence in my read. I just spilled it out for you guys.

Also I made my post about the night scene at this time, instead of when things heat up and we are deciding on lynches. Now is the time to discuss that, not in a few days when more important matters are happening.

Unvote vote mitch

Let's put up the pressure and see if he can talk or not.

Probably because you stated it without backing up why he's town (You still haven't) after very little to go on from him. So why is he town streaker?

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:

strike wolf wrote:Does it really surprise you Aage? I might have been early but I usually try to shake day 1 up somehow.

strike wolf wrote:I would rather talk about the players than the night actions.

slight fos Streaker and Endgame

unvote vote Mitch to see if we can get him to say something.

Is this you shaking things up? It seems your plan is to sit and wait for Mitch to talk, which looks to me like stalling. There have been a fair few interactions and your talk of players consists of FOS'ing Streaker and Endgame with minimal explanation. Sure we can infer your objection is that they are talking mechanics, but its not like you are offering them a different subject matter to discuss.

Swifty time.

Unvote IB

I also got the serious conversation going early on. You're welcome. I also called out Aage and anyone else who cared to a chance to respond if my post was really that surprising. I am not stalling anything. I wanted to see who would jump on the Madmitch bandwagon. It doesn't surprise me that Streaker was one of them. I am also noting that he added nothing to the reasoning other than a vote to the tally.

Endgame422 wrote:

rishaed wrote: Modnote: As far As i'm concerned, there is nobody who currently needs a Prod. (Madmitch included).

Huh.
This makes me think mitch probably is restricted.
The question is what does that mean?
Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?
It seems like a smart play because he gets a pass D1 and cant make a slip,of course theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements to be made here so we cant know anything for sure,but i still think its worth considering especially since mitch seems to be the prime target today.

So you believe that the post restriction agent is mafia?

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Endgame422 wrote:

rishaed wrote: Modnote: As far As i'm concerned, there is nobody who currently needs a Prod. (Madmitch included).

Huh.
This makes me think mitch probably is restricted.
The question is what does that mean?
Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?
It seems like a smart play because he gets a pass D1 and cant make a slip,of course theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements to be made here so we cant know anything for sure,but i still think its worth considering especially since mitch seems to be the prime target today.

Vote endgame

Talk about scum move. You imply there is a good shot he is mafia because that would be a smart mafia move without saying right out he is mafia. You seem to be implanting your speculative notion in the hopes someone else will pic up it's banner. Mitch has not been the prime target. What he has been is the central focus of conversation due to the wording of the night scene. The mod all but confirmed that Mitch does not need a prod, which tells me his silence has nothing to do with him not being present to play.

You believe he is restricted? Fine. I think we can all gather that from what has transpired. Your stating the obvious.

If Mitch truly is restricted he has been placed at the mercy of the restriction. Mafia would have no need to restrict themselves as they could easily fake it but that would be stupid as well. The number one reason people tend to vote someone scum is their lack of posting and laying low...aka scummarining.

Third party could be involved as well for all we know. But I digress.

In summation you are suggesting that Mitch was silenced by mafia so he does not open his mouth, so he does not make some slip up so people do not suspect he is mafia.
Sounds to me like mafia would say to get an innocent Townie lynched, who has no way to defend himself. Nice use of his meta by the way.

All sounds reasonably plausible. Personally, as mafia I'd let him talk if he was town and sow confusion. I'd almost expect a townie trying to keep him from muddying D1 with his usual nonsense more likely to block him than mafia if he was town. Either way, there's no point in keeping the pressure on Madmitch. The mod's note makes it clear that something is indeed going on with him.

Unvote

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Endgame422 wrote:I cant imagine anything major will come from N0 actions.
And honestly waiting for TFO to write the scene might cost us half the day so id rather not hold my breath on that front.
And what is this PT?

ptlowe wrote:vote dakky on drug lords behalf

Also interesting is this comment. I can't imagine anything major will come from no actions...and yet here we have the suggestion that Mitch may be mafia because do to a "major" action he seems not able to speak.
Endgame seems to be waiting like an expectant dad for the day scent to be posted yet downplaying it's significance.

BIG FoS to those wondering where Mitch is after he confirmed yet before actual scene was posted.

We have 4 days left kiddies. I really believe endgame is scum.

I agree with you.

As to those who were quick on the Madmitch timing:

dakky21 wrote:

strike wolf wrote:unvote vote anyone who is not posting just waiting for someone to come forward with information from last night

agree, wonder where is madmitch... he usually makes an OMGUS on me after I joke vote him...

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Streaker wrote:

Marashu wrote:@IB - do you think whoever silenced mitch is town, or scum?
@Tim - I don't think End's argument is to kill mitch because mitch has a post restriction. If you'll note, his vote is not on the mitch wagon.

My current scum picks are bosaa, aage, streaker, and strikewolf, but it's tough with no word from mitch, HotShot (who should be back today), and PTLowe (besides the occasional active post).

Care to explain what half of the players in this game did to get onto your scum list?

Hey look Streaker. We agree on something.

Streaker wrote:I was also waiting for the actual opening post, but with 3 days gone by we are down to 7 days until deadline so let's get this party started shall we.

TO EVERYONE WHO MIGHT GET THE IDEA THAT EARLY CLAIMING FOR NO REASON IS A GOOD IDEA:

All roles were completely randomized, meaning that if you claim, for instance cop, YOU DID NOT PROVE YOUR ALLIGNMENT.
Thank you.

Iron Butterfly wrote:heya folks...seems I popped in just in time? I have not been going to this site for awhile *sigh* I only play mafia but with the slowdown of games my log ins have been few and far between.

So...I am here and playing.

Vote IB for not being here every day.

Says he wants to get the ball rolling than makes a post about game mechanics and a joke vote on IB.

Streaker wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

Endgame422 wrote:

rishaed wrote: Modnote: As far As i'm concerned, there is nobody who currently needs a Prod. (Madmitch included).

Huh.
This makes me think mitch probably is restricted.
The question is what does that mean?
Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?
It seems like a smart play because he gets a pass D1 and cant make a slip,of course theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements to be made here so we cant know anything for sure,but i still think its worth considering especially since mitch seems to be the prime target today.

Vote endgame

Talk about scum move. You imply there is a good shot he is mafia because that would be a smart mafia move without saying right out he is mafia. You seem to be implanting your speculative notion in the hopes someone else will pic up it's banner. Mitch has not been the prime target. What he has been is the central focus of conversation due to the wording of the night scene. The mod all but confirmed that Mitch does not need a prod, which tells me his silence has nothing to do with him not being present to play.

You believe he is restricted? Fine. I think we can all gather that from what has transpired. Your stating the obvious.

If Mitch truly is restricted he has been placed at the mercy of the restriction. Mafia would have no need to restrict themselves as they could easily fake it but that would be stupid as well. The number one reason people tend to vote someone scum is their lack of posting and laying low...aka scummarining.

Third party could be involved as well for all we know. But I digress.

In summation you are suggesting that Mitch was silenced by mafia so he does not open his mouth, so he does not make some slip up so people do not suspect he is mafia.
Sounds to me like mafia would say to get an innocent Townie lynched, who has no way to defend himself. Nice use of his meta by the way.

I support this.
Also, mod intervening on a madmitch lynch means he does not want mitch to be lynched because of a post restriction.

Unvote, vote endgame

So did you do anything other than say you support what was said and state the obvious? Seems that the most effort you've put into this game in actually saying anything of meaning has been in defending yourself.

fp'ed by Streaker. Don't know how fast it was. Probably just missed that there was a new post when I was doing my preview.

strike wolf wrote:fp'ed by Streaker. Don't know how fast it was. Probably just missed that there was a new post when I was doing my preview.

I believe I have countered your last argument about no input by fastposting you. Must also concede on your point where I say 'getting the party started' and following it up with a joke vote. Honest mistake there.

Also, I wagoned twice in this game (mitch first, then endgame). I voted mitch to get information if he was absent, or on a restriction. Once we got confirmation that he was not absent, I left it.
My wagon on endgame is valid, I feel. The case made is good, and I support it. It's not a mindless wagon.

I followed up with 2 meaningfull posts on Mars, something I am very eager to look further into, and will do so soon.

My point was not that we need to lynch mitch today only that we need to consider if that's the kind of move mitch makes as scum.
Strike just posted something similar to my thoughts.
If mitch is town,why would scum restrict him?
He tends to distract from scumhunting,and is mislynched fairly regularly because he is basically impossible to read.
The only way scum gains from restricting him is if mitch himself is scum.
Why not restrict one of the more experienced(dangerous to scum) players.
The reason i didn't vote mitch is because we are not 100 percent that he is restricted. Rishs comment suggests he is but thats "playing the mod" and i have never found that to be legitimate play. Its certainly possible mitch isnt even restricted and my whole line of reasoning is completely off. IF hes restricted,THEN hes probably scum but we wont know for sure until someone else gets restricted and mitch can explain a bit.
Of the 5 votes i have,boss and aages votes both seem like obvious bandwagons. The fact i got so many votes so quick(overnight) makes me think scum is definetly on there already.
Ill also agree mars posts have been a bit erratic,but i havent really found them very scummy.

Why are you convinced that the PT enforcer is mafia?

Ebwop PR*

virus90 wrote:for me lynching mitch d1 is a no go. Lets hope he can speak tomorrow and tell us about the post restriction. else what is the plan? kill anyone who gets a post restriction? at some point i guess we would want to know what happens right? seems best to me to let that be the first day, cause there is no argument other then the post restriction to lynch mitch.

TimWoodbury wrote:thats what ive sid before he may not be post restricted fo the full day most liley for only a portian of the day ie 50% or 75% or mayble only able to post between cctime x and cc time y

im also vote endgame because i dont like that even after more or less being told mmitch is in fact post restricted he still says oh well lets kill hi jsut because that dont look good

@timwoodbury
couple of beers? non english (though profile says USA)? arabic keyboard?

think endgame is gonna have to do some explaining. to quick to to strange conclusions.

what in my post makes it look non english looks english enough to me lol

strike wolf wrote:Why are you convinced that the PT enforcer is mafia?

Aage suggested they might be town earlier as well but this makes no sense to me.
How does town benefit from restricting anyone?
I mean rish did say just because a role is usually scum doesn't mean it necessarily is but giving a townie restrict power just does not make sense. Its more likely to hurt town then help town and borders on a bastard role imo.
I think it has to be scum restricting posts.

Endgame422 wrote:My point was not that we need to lynch mitch today only that we need to consider if that's the kind of move mitch makes as scum.
Strike just posted something similar to my thoughts.
If mitch is town,why would scum restrict him?
He tends to distract from scumhunting,and is mislynched fairly regularly because he is basically impossible to read.
The only way scum gains from restricting him is if mitch himself is scum.
Why not restrict one of the more experienced(dangerous to scum) players.
The reason i didn't vote mitch is because we are not 100 percent that he is restricted. Rishs comment suggests he is but thats "playing the mod" and i have never found that to be legitimate play. Its certainly possible mitch isnt even restricted and my whole line of reasoning is completely off. IF hes restricted,THEN hes probably scum but we wont know for sure until someone else gets restricted and mitch can explain a bit.
Of the 5 votes i have,boss and aages votes both seem like obvious bandwagons. The fact i got so many votes so quick(overnight) makes me think scum is definetly on there already.
Ill also agree mars posts have been a bit erratic,but i havent really found them very scummy.

You posted this phrase:
"Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?"
It sounds like a rhetorical question, because they wouldn't. But you then continue to elaborate on why they would, in a way that makes no sense. It makes 2 assumptions.
A. the restriction imposed on Mitch is a mafia power;
B. the restriction is imposed on Mitch, which means Mitch is mafia.

Those two assumptions are incompatible. You consider a scenario where Mitch is a mafia being silenced by his teammate to make sure he doesn't screw up. You say "it's worth to consider" this, but the problem is that you don't seem to consider other possibilities. If the person with the restriction is town, first off I see no reason to use it on anyone at all, but Mitch might be a valid target because of the reasons you stated - he has a tendency to distract from scumhunting. That makes PR'ing Mitch a town play. If Mitch is town, there is no reason to assume the PR-giver is scum: other than doing town a favour, why would they silence Mitch of all people? There are far better targets out there.

So no, we don't need to consider whether this is the kind of move Mitch would make as scum. As you say, restricting players who pose a larger threat is priority, why ignore them and instead post-restrict Mitch who is less likely to catch scum slips on day 1? Your first post about this was contradictory, and this post doesn't explain anything. It's still way more likely that a town PR role would target Mitch, than that a scum PR role would target him. It wouldn't surprise me if any of the players in this game would restrict Mitch as town just because they can, to be honest.

It's been said over and over again in this thread, roles don't naturally correspond with alignment. Either you've drunken way too much kool-aid and should stop hanging with the conspiracy nutters, or you know something we don't.


I've said before I doubted that a role could restrict Mitch from talking completely, but Rish's post changed my views completely if you hadn't noticed. If he doesn't need to be prodded, it means Rish knows he hasn't forgotten about the game, which means he is intentionally not posting. Secondly, he is not being punished for it, which means a force stronger than the rules is preventing him from doing so. Only possibility is a (literal) post restriction.