Puss In Boots C9 Mafia, Mafia Wins, Safari + Ghost

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Well ya if you did die tonight I would honestly point the finger at new guy

[ghostly447]

1.) I'm not allowed to say if he is scum then your scum when you said if new guy is scum then im scum your kinda going back on things you have said
2.) were not saying he obviously wanted him dead were saying he seemed to want him gone more than others and I see what your saying that mafia could have killed to trini to blame it on him...but honestly i can't take that risk ...so my vote stands on safari
3.)and you said that if you and him were scum buddies then you would have voted codie...so now you talking for him when you blamed new guy for talking for me

Once again your going against things you have said earlier and its scummy

[ghostly447]

1.) I'm not allowed to say if he is scum then your scum when you said if new guy is scum then im scum your kinda going back on things you have said
2.) were not saying he obviously wanted him dead were saying he seemed to want him gone more than others and I see what your saying that mafia could have killed to trini to blame it on him...but honestly i can't take that risk ...so my vote stands on safari
3.)and you said that if you and him were scum buddies then you would have voted codie...so now you talking for him when you blamed new guy for talking for me

Once again your going against things you have said earlier and its scummy

Sorry phone messed up so I couldn't address the last point. For the THIRD time I so said defended him because it supported my case. But you pretty much threw away new guys case right in this post I am contradicting. Well argues bit that's a scum slip.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

What?

[ghostly447]

My phone fucked up. Please translate to the beat of your ability and ask questions if needed.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

You say you addressed all points when I only see one?

[ghostly447]

Oh my god. My phone deleted the first two. Let me get the other two again.

[ghostly447]

1.) I'm not allowed to say if he is scum then your scum when you said if new guy is scum then im scum your kinda going back on things you have said
2.) were not saying he obviously wanted him dead were saying he seemed to want him gone more than others and I see what your saying that mafia could have killed to trini to blame it on him...but honestly i can't take that risk ...so my vote stands on safari
3.)and you said that if you and him were scum buddies then you would have voted codie...so now you talking for him when you blamed new guy for talking for me

Once again your going against things you have said earlier and its scummy

Point one can be put under the same reason as 3 which I have posted 3 times already.
and besides that, it is quite apparent you just took you just took your entire case apart because new guy built his entire case on the so aparent vengeance kill of safaris against trini.

[ghostly447]

Would like to request a prod on codierose and dazza. Want to see their input.

[codierose]

input on what I've voted
cant see much of a case with safari
only thing is he hasn't voted yet
fos clever and new guy
seems to be working together to pressure you
still waiting for a response from new guy from safaris question
what more is there to add

[new guy1]

a way to try and draw the mafia out or prove that someone looks scummy... and addressing safari's question, i have no idea what to do. thats why i tried to lay out our options so that we could work what we want to do out...

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ok so i understood nothing of what ghost said about my three points
uhh maybe you could explain it again cause i cant say anthing to that lol

[ghostly447]

ok so i understood nothing of what ghost said about my three points
uhh maybe you could explain it again cause i cant say anthing to that lol

Well I didnt see too many gramatical errors, so :/

I posted the same point (Defended safari cause it supported my case that yours is weaker)

And then the fact you just went soft on that there may be no connection between safari and trini just made your case even softer.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

ok well that is against my third point? uhh
so not defending against my other two makes my case stronger...im lost

[ghostly447]

ok well that is against my third point? uhh
so not defending against my other two makes my case stronger...im lost

Point 1 and 3 go under the fact that by proving your case weaker, my case is the immediate strongest one. Is that 4 times, or 5 times.

Point 2 is the fact that New guy1 built a case around a vengeance kill. In doing so it was relying on the sole factor that he did in fact kill trini because he was the most prone to.

were not saying he obviously wanted him dead were saying he seemed to want him gone more than others and I see what your saying that mafia could have killed to trini to blame it on him

Contradicted by giving both options.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Read after the green when I said I can't risk it cause if we lynch safari and he is mafia town has a chance and if he is town then I will take the blame for the loss thats how strong my suspicion is

[ghostly447]

Read after the green when I said I can't risk it cause if we lynch safari and he is mafia town has a chance and if he is town then I will take the blame for the loss thats how strong my suspicion is

I can say the exact same thing about you except I have more support behind mine. I know you and new guy are working together. It is a fact.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Prove it then

[ghostly447]

Prove it then

Ummm. How do. I prove my strong suspicion that you are Mafia besides asking for a lynch and then backing my case? Now you aren't even trying to read into my posts. You are just trying to deter readers.

[safariguy5]

Read after the green when I said I can't risk it cause if we lynch safari and he is mafia town has a chance and if he is town then I will take the blame for the loss thats how strong my suspicion is

Well ok, under that logic, I could easily also say that "let's lynch Clever because if he is mafia, town has a chance and if he is town, I'll take the blame for the loss". That's not really saying anything because all you are saying is that your "feeling" is that we should lynch me. Let's focus on what's concrete here.

It seems like clever and new guy are somewhat supporting each other.

It seems like ghostly and are somewhat supporting each other.

Just because we appear to agree doesn't automatically make us scum. It could be that a mafia person supported one side and a mafia person supported the other side to blend in. It could be that the 4 of us are town and the submariners are mafia. It could be that one of the 4 of us is mafia and one of the submariners is mafia.

While I think it's nice to note who seems to be agreeing with each other, it doesn't really reveal alignment. I think we need to either test a claim by lynching them now or massclaim and then pick a person.

[ghostly447]

Read after the green when I said I can't risk it cause if we lynch safari and he is mafia town has a chance and if he is town then I will take the blame for the loss thats how strong my suspicion is

Well ok, under that logic, I could easily also say that "let's lynch Clever because if he is mafia, town has a chance and if he is town, I'll take the blame for the loss". That's not really saying anything because all you are saying is that your "feeling" is that we should lynch me. Let's focus on what's concrete here.

It seems like clever and new guy are somewhat supporting each other.

It seems like ghostly and are somewhat supporting each other.

Just because we appear to agree doesn't automatically make us scum. It could be that a mafia person supported one side and a mafia person supported the other side to blend in. It could be that the 4 of us are town and the submariners are mafia. It could be that one of the 4 of us is mafia and one of the submariners is mafia.

While I think it's nice to note who seems to be agreeing with each other, it doesn't really reveal alignment. I think we need to either test a claim by lynching them now or massclaim and then pick a person.

I am personally 95% sure that CLEVER is mafia whether New guy1 is as well or not. It just seems they both go after one person and give it all they've got, and somehow see me connected to you even though I have said 4-5 times I am only attacking the case against you because by defeating that case, it is apparent mine is the only one thats solid. So Test a claim by lynch on him would not hurt my feelings.

I also am open to a mass claim and picking in case the submariners really are the mafia, and it turns out they have weaker claims. But I fully believe that CLEVER is mafia either way, and will not remove my vote on him unless there is extremely powerful evidence against the others.

[dazza2008]

Sorry for not posting in a while. I have caught up on the reading and I am not sure at all who to believe.

I think a mass claim might help then take it from there.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Ok well I've never been in a mass claim ...what are we supposed to do

[Some7hingCLEVER]

from the same link

The trio ride the fast-growing beanstalk into the clouds where, Humpty explains, they'll find castle of the late giant. Now, he continues, a fearsome monster called the Terror guards the Golden Goose. When they realize the golden eggs are too heavy to carry, they steal the Goose — which is just a gosling — and escape the castle and the Terror. While celebrating their victory, the group is ambushed by Jack and Jill, who knock Puss unconscious.

no not at all dazza look to me more like your trying to defend clever
all i got to gone on is whats in wiki he says hes the terror above is what it say it is lol what else do you go on

Yeah but when you read the whole thing it seems unlikely to be mafia. Could be a fake claim still as was said but it seems you are trying to make it look worse than it is.

is it possible that if I die so will the golden goose would die to? Idk just something I thought of lol

[dazza2008]

from the same link

The trio ride the fast-growing beanstalk into the clouds where, Humpty explains, they'll find castle of the late giant. Now, he continues, a fearsome monster called the Terror guards the Golden Goose. When they realize the golden eggs are too heavy to carry, they steal the Goose — which is just a gosling — and escape the castle and the Terror. While celebrating their victory, the group is ambushed by Jack and Jill, who knock Puss unconscious.

no not at all dazza look to me more like your trying to defend clever
all i got to gone on is whats in wiki he says hes the terror above is what it say it is lol what else do you go on

Yeah but when you read the whole thing it seems unlikely to be mafia. Could be a fake claim still as was said but it seems you are trying to make it look worse than it is.

is it possible that if I die so will the golden goose would die to? Idk just something I thought of lol

No that is not possible in this games set up.