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Re: American Heartland
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:36 am
by natty dread
The Bison King wrote:Uh crud I didn't think about that... obviously.
Here, you can have one of these:

The Bison King wrote:ok, here's what I'm thinking. All Cities start neutral (equivalent to their value, maybe starting at 2 for the +1's). We add the rule +1 for every 3 farmland territories "with at least 1 city" and add a city in West Virginia so that players can reap it's farmland bonus.
Hm, that could work. However, that makes all of the bonuses dependent on the cities. It will make them heavily contested... so you may want to code all regions that are adjacent to cities as starting positions to ensure their even distribution.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:40 am
by BGtheBrain
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Re: American Heartland
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:38 am
by The Bison King
BGtheBrain wrote:This is awesome. Thanks for correcting Kentucky.
You may want to change Newport to Covington.
Covington is the 5th largest city in Kentucky and is over double the size of Newport.
Im impartial to Florence though and you could throw in a tribute to the landmark the....
Florence Y'all Water Tower - This can be seen from the interstate and is a recognizable landmark for anyone who has driven up or down I-75
Maybe make a little mini one on the map.
[bigimg]http://sportsdesignblog.typepad.com/.a/6a01127953797128a40120a7c46da7970b-800wi[/bigimg]
Well on my most recent version I actually took the territory out all together. However I may still add it back in. If I do so I will add it back in as Covington.
And yeah I've seen that water tower, and am aware of the lovely little factoid that it used to say "Florence Mall" until the city made them change it because they weren't allowed to advertise on public property.
Do you live in Covington? Florence?
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:39 am
by BGtheBrain
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Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:34 am
by The Bison King
[bigimg]http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6370/americanheartlandupload.jpg[/bigimg]
Ok I suppose it's about time I start working on this again. Permitting that there actually is support and interest for this map.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:15 am
by natty dread
You didn't add the "must hold city" thing to the farmland bonuses...
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:20 am
by The Bison King
natty dread wrote:You didn't add the "must hold city" thing to the farmland bonuses...
Not yet. I will though. I also still need to add a city in West Virginia.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:22 am
by AndyDufresne
The Bison King wrote:Ok I suppose it's about time I start working on this again. Permitting that there actually is support and interest for this map.
I think a heartland map could work, but I've never heard of West V. being part of the heartland. It seems like the heartland is shifted East quite a bit. Though Heartland is always a pretty ambiguous term, since a lot of states claim (or want to claim) they are part of such an area.
Best of luck.
--Andy
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:28 am
by The Bison King
AndyDufresne wrote:The Bison King wrote:Ok I suppose it's about time I start working on this again. Permitting that there actually is support and interest for this map.
I think a heartland map could work, but I've never heard of West V. being part of the heartland. It seems like the heartland is shifted East quite a bit. Though Heartland is always a pretty ambiguous term, since a lot of states claim (or want to claim) they are part of such an area.
Best of luck.
--Andy
Yeah, I don't know what you'd call West Virginia part of. Appalachia I suppose. I kind of think it's sort of it's own thing down there.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:17 pm
by Industrial Helix
Maybe it's me but I'm waiting on a more pretty version before I can sticky this and stamp it.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:17 am
by natty dread
Industrial Helix wrote:Maybe it's me but I'm waiting on a more pretty version before I can sticky this and stamp it.
I think the map looks fine enough for a draft stamp. Also I believe Bison King has shown that he is capable of taking the graphics to a sufficient level... but this is just my opinion.
However I would say the legend should be corrected to reflect the gameplay change about the cities (see above), because without that change the gameplay doesn't make any sense...
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:00 pm
by The Bison King
natty dread wrote:Industrial Helix wrote:Maybe it's me but I'm waiting on a more pretty version before I can sticky this and stamp it.
I think the map looks fine enough for a draft stamp. Also I believe Bison King has shown that he is capable of taking the graphics to a sufficient level... but this is just my opinion.
However I would say the legend should be corrected to reflect the gameplay change about the cities (see above), because without that change the gameplay doesn't make any sense...
And I still need to add that city in W. Virginia. After that it should be ready.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:31 pm
by chapcrap
I don't support the name of this map. It isn't a true representation of the Heartland.
http://wikitravel.org/en/Midwest_%28United_States_of_America%29Other than that, I think the map looks pretty good.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:33 pm
by isaiah40
The Bison King wrote:And I still need to add that city in W. Virginia. After that it should be ready.
Morgantown
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:58 pm
by The Bison King
isaiah40 wrote:The Bison King wrote:And I still need to add that city in W. Virginia. After that it should be ready.
Morgantown
I was thinking Charleston because it's the capital and the biggest city.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:49 pm
by isaiah40
The Bison King wrote:isaiah40 wrote:The Bison King wrote:And I still need to add that city in W. Virginia. After that it should be ready.
Morgantown
I was thinking Charleston because it's the capital and the biggest city.
That will work, just connect it to Pittsburg and Lexington
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:28 am
by The Bison King
Done. and done.
[bigimg]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4016/americanheartlanduploado.jpg[/bigimg]
Next up I think is adjusting the city values. They need some work. Also it's a little hard to tell apart the values, I think.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:22 am
by natty dread
This is the large image, right?
I have some concerns about numbers fitting on the small... Where do you plan to put the numbers in the cities?
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:23 am
by The Bison King
natty dread wrote:This is the large image, right?
I have some concerns about numbers fitting on the small... Where do you plan to put the numbers in the cities?
plan on making the cities bigger.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:25 pm
by Industrial Helix
Looking good! You need to put somewhere that rivers are impassable, presuming they are.
And the road bonus, should say whwether thay includes the cities on the path, I presume it does.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:05 am
by The Bison King
You know I was thinking about this idea and I could do more to hone in on a better descriptor of this region. I would like to keep "heartland" in the title cause I want to stick with the heart motif, like in the would cuts. Maybe something like American Heartland: East, or American Heartland: Rustbelt, or something like that.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:00 pm
by chapcrap
I think that might be good.
I would vote for Rustbelt between those two.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:15 pm
by isaiah40
I think this can be moved on up and onward!

Re: American Heartland *Pennsylvania have your say*
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:26 am
by The Bison King
Ok for a while I wasn't sure if I was going to keep working on this but I think I'm going to keep with it after all. Here's how I want to proceed. I want to work on this one state at a time. Right now I'll start with Pennsylvania, so now is the time for anyone who lives in, or has strong feelings, excessive knowledge, on Pennsylvania should speak up about territory names and the cities that are present, and their worth.
A note on cities. The cities I'll be including will be included purely on their population, importance in trade and business, and to a lesser extent historical, and cultural relevance. I'm not including Maybury because the best Apple Jam comes from there, it needs to be an important city.
Re: American Heartland
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:37 am
by natty dread
The Bison King wrote:Ok for a while I wasn't sure if I was going to keep working on this
What's that you say?!??
WOW MAN, CHECK OUT THE COLOSSAL EGO ON THIS GUY!!!