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Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:29 pm
by Phatscotty
tzor wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Ask me anything about the Bible. I will give you the correct answer!
Anything? Well you asked for it ...
What are the "three of the most mysterious words in the Bible" which apparently are on "page 76 of the Bible" according to some stupid email I received this morning with links that there is no chance in hell I'm ever going to click on. I mean the thought of referencing the bible by "page" is silly to begin with. No chapter or verse or ever the specific translation where they get their page number from.
hither, thither, n whence
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:32 pm
by Phatscotty
Bernie Sanders wrote:What was the name of Jesus wife? Name his offspring?
Sarah n Sarah
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:36 pm
by jgordon1111
Lmao
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:38 pm
by jgordon1111
Phatscotty wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:What was the name of Jesus wife? Name his offspring?
Sarah n Sarah
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:52 pm
by jimboston
strike wolf wrote:Could God make a toaster to cook a piece of toast so hot that he himself could not eat it?
+1
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:18 pm
by PLAYER57832
jgordon1111 wrote:Lmao, I skipped the da vinci code part of your question for a reason,but as I understood it was two parts and I answered the first question, was the answer I gave good enough ?
Do you mean that the sons of God are the watchers?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:28 pm
by jgordon1111
PLAYER57832 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Lmao, I skipped the da vinci code part of your question for a reason,but as I understood it was two parts and I answered the first question, was the answer I gave good enough ?
Do you mean that the sons of God are the watchers?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:35 pm
by PLAYER57832
jgordon1111 wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:Lmao, I skipped the da vinci code part of your question for a reason,but as I understood it was two parts and I answered the first question, was the answer I gave good enough ?
Do you mean that the sons of God are the watchers?
Yes player I am or the fallen, depending on what religious text you are reading and what time frame it was published, anything after 1900 I tend to disregard based on the fact most religious leaders realized the masses were getting smarter and very carefully started changing what was said in the newer printed versions, little bits at a time so as to not draw attention to what was going on.
hmm. not what I meant, but do you have references (preferably free, online since my local library does not exist).
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:40 pm
by jgordon1111
Take
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:48 pm
by Kevi
I heard one version that he made a deal with the Romans who took him off the cross before he was dead and then smuggled him out of the tomb. He married Mary Magdelene and they moved to the south of France and had 4 (or more) kids. There are documentaries made about this and people still explore caves in France looking for more evidence and there are churches there which have many artefacts to support this claim. There is a laywer in London who claims to be a direct descendant of Jesus and Mary and his last name is Montgomery. It's about 15 years since I saw the documentary so he may have retired or died by now. I swear by all that is holy that I am not making this up.
I also read that Nelson Rockefellow is the head of the Illuminati and is a direct descendant of the Devil.
I do not believe everything that I read or see on TV.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:38 pm
by jgordon1111
Kevi wrote:I heard one version that he made a deal with the Romans who took him off the cross before he was dead and then smuggled him out of the tomb. He married Mary Magdelene and they moved to the south of France and had 4 (or more) kids. There are documentaries made about this and people still explore caves in France looking for more evidence and there are churches there which have many artefacts to support this claim. There is a laywer in London who claims to be a direct descendant of Jesus and Mary and his last name is Montgomery. It's about 15 years since I saw the documentary so he may have retired or died by now. I swear by all that is holy that I am not making this up.
I also read that Nelson Rockefellow is the head of the Illuminati and is a direct descendant of the Devil.
I do not believe everything that I read or see on TV.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:53 am
by Bernie Sanders
jgordon1111 wrote:Player I don't use Google for much especially religious discussion, my answers come from before Google was even conceived.
You mean like how the Virgin Mary was conceived?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:54 am
by Bernie Sanders
Phatscotty wrote:warmonger1981 wrote:Where was Jesus for 17 years?
Did he actually die on the cross or is the Muslim version correct?
Are you familiar with the Gospel of Judas and its interpretation of the final moments in Jesus life?
This should keep you busy.
Carpentry school
Death was only temporary but yes
yes
Actually Jesus was a stone mason
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:30 am
by Symmetry
Kevi wrote:I heard one version that he made a deal with the Romans who took him off the cross before he was dead and then smuggled him out of the tomb. He married Mary Magdelene and they moved to the south of France and had 4 (or more) kids. There are documentaries made about this and people still explore caves in France looking for more evidence and there are churches there which have many artefacts to support this claim. There is a laywer in London who claims to be a direct descendant of Jesus and Mary and his last name is Montgomery. It's about 15 years since I saw the documentary so he may have retired or died by now. I swear by all that is holy that I am not making this up.
I also read that Nelson Rockefellow is the head of the Illuminati and is a direct descendant of the Devil.
I do not believe everything that I read or see on TV.
He's buried in Japan. There's a grave and everything.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shing%C5%8D,_AomoriShingō village is the location of what is purported to be the last resting place of Jesus, located in the "Tomb of Jesus" (Kirisuto no haka), and the residence of Jesus' last descendants, the family of Sajiro Sawaguchi.[1] According to the Sawaguchi family's claims, Jesus Christ did not die on the cross at Golgotha. Instead his brother, Isukiri,[2] took his place on the cross, while Jesus fled across Siberia to Mutsu Province, in northern Japan. Once in Japan, he became a rice farmer, married, and raised a family with three daughters near what is now Shingō. While in Japan, it is asserted that he traveled, learned, and eventually died at the age of 106. His body was exposed on a hilltop for four years. According to the customs of the time, Jesus' bones were collected, bundled, and buried in the mound purported to be the grave of Jesus Christ.[3][4]
Another mound near the alleged grave of Jesus is said to contain an ear of the brother of Jesus and a lock of hair from Mary, the mother of Jesus, the only relics of his family Jesus could carry when he fled Judaea.[5] The claims started in 1933 after the discovery of supposed "ancient Hebrew documents detailing Jesus' life and death in Japan" [6] that was supposedly the testament of Jesus. These documents were allegedly seized by the Japanese authorities and taken to Tokyo shortly before World War II and have not been seen since.[7]
The English text on the sign explaining the legend of the Tomb of Christ reads:
When Jesus Christ was 21 years old, he came to Japan and pursued knowledge of divinity for 12 years. He went back to Judea at age 33 and engaged in his mission. However, at that time, people in Judea would not accept Christ's preaching. Instead, they arrested him and tried to crucify him on a cross. His younger brother, Isukiri casually took Christ's place and ended his life on the cross.
Christ, who escaped the crucifixion, went through the ups and downs of travel, and again came to Japan. He settled right here in what is now called Herai Village, and died at the age of 106.
On this holy ground, there is dedicated a burial mound on the right to deify Christ, and a grave on the left to deify Isukiri.
The above description was given in a testament by Jesus Christ.
Can't believe I'm an atheist.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:29 am
by warmonger1981
This is the first time I've heard of Jesus being a stone Mason. I've always heard him as a carpenter.
Knowledge,when sought after,is always from the east. The east us where there Light comes from. That's why most Christian churches were aligned towards the east. The Vatican is directed towards the East. Even in Iranian Sufism they believe the same. Egypt also believed in the knowledge coming from the sun. It's called Panspermia.
Rockefeller is not Illuminati in the Adam Weishaupt sense. The Illuminati is nothing more than a way of thinking nowadays. Just like Freemasonry or Rosicrucians. They do have one thing in common and that's Light is the way to knowledge of ones surroundings and ones self.
All words have meaning. Some with duel meaning. Like I pointed out in another thread that Melchizedek, although it may be a name, has many meanings.
From Wikipedia
The name is composed from the two elements melek(h) "king" and ṣedeq "righteous(ness)".[5] With the addition of the enclitic possessive pronoun (-ī), malk-ī means "my king", so that the name literally translates to "my king is righteousness" (or "my king is Ṣedeq").[6] By the Hellenistic era it appears the name came to be associated with the messiah and paraphrased as "king of righteousness".[7]
"My King is Righteousness" is interpreted as a theophoric name associating Melchizedek's god, El Elyon with the epithet Ṣedeq ("Righteousness"), which is otherwise attested as the name of Canaanite deities.[8] Thus, Ṣedeq and El Elyon ("God most high") may have been two epithets of the same Jebusite god, identified as an astral deity, perhaps eponymous of Salem itself: Salim or Shalem (שלם) is attested as a god, presumably identified with the evening star, in Ugaritic mythology; URUŠalim in this case would be the city of Salim, the Jebusite astral deity.[9] The theonym is also preserved in Phoenician (ṣdq; Philo: Συδυκ), a deity identified with Roman Jupiter.[10]
So in regard to jgordon the Bible has been translated many times and I'm sure the true meanings/words have been kept away from the lower levels of the church and possibly lost in translation.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:22 am
by jgordon1111
What a surprise you are warmonger you have the gist of it or it seems that way, Bernie where did you come up with stone mason? I have read alot and never came across that before. Anyone know old Latin?If you do try looking up pictures of St. Mary's church in France translate the inscription above the door, the offered one is not correct another regretable lie it seems. Hint look at all meanings for every word not what is used today.then ask why this church in this place?by someone who didn't have authority to build it?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:26 pm
by jgordon1111
Ok Scotty if this doesn't apply to you topic meaning let me know, MEME OF INTOLERANCE, what does it mean to you and the bible in general, give a few instances of its application in the last 300 yrs to today, if you think it is applicable
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:24 pm
by TheGreys
panspermia is the theory that life on the earth originated from microorganisms or chemical precursors of life present in outer space and able to initiate life on reaching a suitable environment. Also Vatican and many old Christian chuches face Jerusalem not the east in general.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:57 pm
by Metsfanmax
Have you read Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason? If so, what is your response to his criticisms of the internal inconsistencies in the Bible?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:52 am
by warmonger1981
What are your thoughts of Sophia in the Bible? Is she actually a goddess of is she just a word for wisdom?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:15 am
by warmonger1981
TheGreys
Your right about the Panspermia but Ancient Egypt thought that light carries information. It's the information carried by the light that gives life. You need light in order for life to evolve. I would have to say your wrong about churches facing east let alone the Vatican facing Jerusalem. This link might help you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRNVowjUgEQDiud you know there was a Temple of Isis in the Vatican long ago? That's where the obelisk in St.Peters square was originally erected after coming from Heliopolis.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:31 pm
by PLAYER57832
Well, there were a lot of stories and ideas in the centuries after the crucifixion. Refuting them was one of major reasons for the Canonization. Even then, there was some disagreement over a few, the Apocrypha. Others were just flat out discarded - the Book of Judas, for example and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Versions of some of these discarded ideas appear in the Q'ran, Followers of that book feel we Christians got it wrong, much like Christianity tends to say Judaism "go it wrong" -- as in only part of the fully discovered truth, but still sacred.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:33 pm
by WingCmdr Ginkapo
Why did god not end the world after humanity discovered cheese, a feat that will never be overshadowed?
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:03 pm
by TheGreys
warmonger1981 wrote:TheGreys
Your right about the Panspermia but Ancient Egypt thought that light carries information. It's the information carried by the light that gives life. You need light in order for life to evolve. I would have to say your wrong about churches facing east let alone the Vatican facing Jerusalem. This link might help you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRNVowjUgEQDiud you know there was a Temple of Isis in the Vatican long ago? That's where the obelisk in St.Peters square was originally erected after coming from Heliopolis.
Interesting! I stand corrected.
Re: BIBLE THUMP ME!
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:11 pm
by PLAYER57832
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Why did god not end the world after humanity discovered cheese, a feat that will never be overshadowed?
No, beer has that award.