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Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:07 am
by Symmetry
DoomYoshi wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Sabbath definitely awarded as the birth of Metal. But we still own Rock as a whole :D

Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and Deep Purple. The Holy Trinity of Heavy Metal are all British.


Yeah I wouldn't consider any of those three to be metal. Maybe hard rock, but not metal. I get that back in the day they were considered metal, but most metal, at least the stuff I listen to, makes them sound like generic radio rock.


Metal nowadays is kind of a joke to be fair. Old guys like Metallica who are a parody of themselves. New bands that seem like a parody of old bands. Bands that consider increasing the noise to be better that the last noisy band.

It's a fun genre to be in to, but people shouldn't pretend that it's anything but backwards looking at this point.


Folk metal is the only genre I still listen to, and even then much more rarely.



Yeah, I remember a lot of people got into Folk Metal in 2019.

Wasn't really my thing though.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:13 am
by saxitoxin
Symmetry wrote:Folk metal is the only genre I still listen to


This is why Symm is my BF.


edit ...

WAIT A SEC ... that wasn't a Symm quote ...

Symmetry wrote:Wasn't really my thing though.


GET OUT SYMM

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:16 am
by Symmetry
saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Folk metal is the only genre I still listen to


This is why Symm is my BF.


edit ...

WAIT A SEC ... that wasn't a Symm quote ...

Symmetry wrote:Wasn't really my thing though.


GET OUT SYMM


Live with it. It's like a 19's haircut. You look back and it's obviously terrible. At the time, it seemed like a good idea though.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:22 am
by saxitoxin
A Barbershop classic ...



Timberlake performing Barbershop badly ...



Americana performed as Barbershop!


Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:32 am
by Symmetry
I don't want to be a critic, but for barbershop a lot of those guys are obviously bald.

Who am I kidding? I do kinda want to be a critic.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:22 am
by tkr4lf
Symmetry wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Sabbath definitely awarded as the birth of Metal. But we still own Rock as a whole :D

Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and Deep Purple. The Holy Trinity of Heavy Metal are all British.


Yeah I wouldn't consider any of those three to be metal. Maybe hard rock, but not metal. I get that back in the day they were considered metal, but most metal, at least the stuff I listen to, makes them sound like generic radio rock.


Metal nowadays is kind of a joke to be fair. Old guys like Metallica who are a parody of themselves. New bands that seem like a parody of old bands. Bands that consider increasing the noise to be better that the last noisy band.

It's a fun genre to be in to, but people shouldn't pretend that it's anything but backwards looking at this point.

That's just, like, your opinion, dude.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:36 am
by Bernie Sanders
Real American music


Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:58 am
by KoolBak
Rob Zombie
Five Finger Death Punch
Rammstein

I also am an old guy that loves metallica, whoever was badmouthing them :lol:

Rock On.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:51 am
by Bernie Sanders
KoolBak wrote:Rob Zombie
Five Finger Death Punch
Rammstein

I also am an old guy that loves metallica, whoever was badmouthing them :lol:

Rock On.


Got news for you....Rammstein is not American. I do love them tho!

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:00 pm
by HitRed
Air guitar and air drums.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:51 pm
by KoolBak
Did I say Rammers were uhmehrukin? Dunna recall dat.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:58 pm
by Symmetry
Top Ten:

10 ) Psycho-waltz
9 ) Urban 90's Seattle Slam
8 ) Hoop
7 ) Donner Party Mix era- 46-47
6 ) That time Hendrix was sober and went back in time and invented happy birthday and every national anthem.
5 ) Funk-hop (Hardcore) Poughkeepsie
4 ) Deep drive Folk-Pop
3 ) Jazztron (2nd generation)
2 ) Karaoke
1 ) Documentary

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:05 pm
by DoomYoshi

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:10 pm
by Symmetry
DoomYoshi wrote:Did you use this generator?
http://www.cloverpatchwork.com/genre.html


I did not, but maybe I should have.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:13 pm
by DoomYoshi
Nothing quite like some "black Stringed Keyboard sludge-aggro-grrrl" to remind you about everything good and holy in the US&A.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:21 pm
by Symmetry
DoomYoshi wrote:Nothing quite like some "black Stringed Keyboard sludge-aggro-grrrl" to remind you about everything good and holy in the US&A.


Meh, I liked the early stuff better, before it became commercialised.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:25 am
by Bernie Sanders
KoolBak wrote:Did I say Rammers were uhmehrukin? Dunna recall dat.



Read the fukn title from this thread.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:31 pm
by mookiemcgee
Symmetry wrote:Top Ten:

10 ) Psycho-waltz
9 ) Urban 90's Seattle Slam
8 ) Hoop
7 ) Donner Party Mix era- 46-47
6 ) That time Hendrix was sober and went back in time and invented happy birthday and every national anthem.
5 ) Funk-hop (Hardcore) Poughkeepsie
4 ) Deep drive Folk-Pop
3 ) Jazztron (2nd generation)
2 ) Karaoke
1 ) Documentary


Hipster

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:16 am
by tzor
DoomYoshi wrote:Maybe, I think the first Jazz came from Classical though. I think the first Jazz song was Rhapsody in Blue. Blues was a type of folk music totally distinct.


The evolution of music (it is more like the cross pollination) is a complex evolution. "Rhapsody in Blue" was an attempt by the American composer George Gershwin to bring Jazz into the classical music halls. Up to this time, he was mostly involved in Tin Pan Alley and Broadway. Jazz, as a musical form was already over 8 years old by the time this was written in 1928.

I would say that the birth of real "Jazz" happened in 1924. "In 1924, Louis Armstrong joined the Fletcher Henderson dance band for a year, as featured soloist. The original New Orleans style was polyphonic, with theme variation and simultaneous collective improvisation. Armstrong was a master of his hometown style, but by the time he joined Henderson's band, he was already a trailblazer in a new phase of jazz, with its emphasis on arrangements and soloists. Armstrong's solos went well beyond the theme-improvisation concept and extemporized on chords, rather than melodies."

This approach to improvisation and solo work (which eventually would become a tag team solo match for a given song between the various instruments) is really the fundamental key to Jazz as a distinct genre.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:16 pm
by Symmetry
mookiemcgee wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Top Ten:

10 ) Psycho-waltz
9 ) Urban 90's Seattle Slam
8 ) Hoop
7 ) Donner Party Mix era- 46-47
6 ) That time Hendrix was sober and went back in time and invented happy birthday and every national anthem.
5 ) Funk-hop (Hardcore) Poughkeepsie
4 ) Deep drive Folk-Pop
3 ) Jazztron (2nd generation)
2 ) Karaoke
1 ) Documentary


Hipster


Fine, my favourite American genre, honestly, is the art of the cover. I really love hearing familiar songs in different styles. Whether it's something as simple as sampling, or even a so called re-mix with unnecessary rap, or a mash-up... they all make me smile. Re-invention, as F. Scott Fitzgerald pointed out, is a great point of the North American experience.



This, for, example, is amazing.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:49 pm
by KoolBak

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:55 pm
by Symmetry
KoolBak wrote:Lets just move over to the original covers thread....

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=221433&p=5062446&hilit=song+covers#p5062446


Good call, and thanks for digging that one back up. I'm not sure it's better than the original, but it is so much funnier.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:11 am
by tkr4lf
Just for you, sym.








Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:48 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
Symmetry wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Sabbath definitely awarded as the birth of Metal. But we still own Rock as a whole :D

Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and Deep Purple. The Holy Trinity of Heavy Metal are all British.


Yeah I wouldn't consider any of those three to be metal. Maybe hard rock, but not metal. I get that back in the day they were considered metal, but most metal, at least the stuff I listen to, makes them sound like generic radio rock.


Metal nowadays is kind of a joke to be fair. Old guys like Metallica who are a parody of themselves. New bands that seem like a parody of old bands. Bands that consider increasing the noise to be better that the last noisy band.

It's a fun genre to be in to, but people shouldn't pretend that it's anything but backwards looking at this point.


I have this opinion about jazz. I like some of the old jazz greats and swing and big band stuff, but I don't think I've ever heard modern straight jazz that didn't sound like the musical equivalent of some art-house film devoid of quality but with all the trappings. Just utterly tedious.

Re: Best American music genre?

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:49 am
by mrswdk
Symmetry wrote:Re-invention, as F. Scott Fitzgerald pointed out, is a great point of the North American experience.


And yet if a Chinese did it they'd just be accused of IPR violation.