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I usually don't complain about the dice. Yes, they blow at times and it seems unfair, but they always seem to even out in some way. This time, I am just beyond frustrated.

Finishing a Christmas map game at about 7pm CCT, I had 64 troops to bombard 30 for the win. 99.99069% that I win that roll. I fail, 11 of his survive, which has a chance of only 0.00003%. So, I leave the site for a couple hours, frustrated. I come back to finish off another Christmas map game just now. I have 8 troops to bombard a 1 to get my first cash and start the sweep. I fail again. This one was 99.96185% that I win.

I'm sorry, but this just simply isn't logically possible. It's insane and I completely understand why people decide to never play again here knowing that strategy at times doesn't matter in the least. Luck should not trump strategy and logic in this game, ever.
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groovysmurf wrote:I usually don't complain about the dice. Yes, they blow at times and it seems unfair, but they always seem to even out in some way. This time, I am just beyond frustrated.

Finishing a Christmas map game at about 7pm CCT, I had 64 troops to bombard 30 for the win. 99.99069% that I win that roll. I fail, 11 of his survive, which has a chance of only 0.00003%. So, I leave the site for a couple hours, frustrated. I come back to finish off another Christmas map game just now. I have 8 troops to bombard a 1 to get my first cash and start the sweep. I fail again. This one was 99.96185% that I win.

I'm sorry, but this just simply isn't logically possible. It's insane and I completely understand why people decide to never play again here knowing that strategy at times doesn't matter in the least. Luck should not trump strategy and logic in this game, ever.
Totally agree with you Crystal. I have 4 games left and I’m out of here. I recently had the same experience and it is time for me to move on for awhile. Thanks for all you do for us. Happy New Year.
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Just give it time Shoe.


And never use auto big vs low numbers. I had 17 vs 1 going sour once on auto. But that works 2 ways no?
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Haven't won a game in days - dropped 4 ranks - CC rigged - FK cc - Never pay these thieves a penny again


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Fucking thieves - Dropped my wins down from 50% to 5% the day my subscription was paid - 3 weeks later still no improvement - Cancelled subscription - advise others to do the same - these assholes are thieves and this game is definitely rigged
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Here is a good explanation about bad dice:
by Shannon Apple on Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:36 pm

I see people complain about dice all the time. There is a RISK app (very basic and shitty game compared to CC) and people who play it complain about the dice all the time, and not to mention the cheating. Because the game is made with Unity, and has poor security, it's hackable. People create more armies for themselves and a host of other nonsense.

What happens with CC dice is mainly an inconvenience. People aren't cheating here. At least, not in that way. If they're caught with more than one account, they get banned. The dice are just a bit on the streaky side. I could roll some godlike dice today, and then not be able to win a single roll tomorrow.

One has to remember that CC is 50% luck and 50% strategy. You could be the best RISK player in the world and still lose to one of our really dumb bots here on CC due to dice. However, if you're a good enough player, it will even out and you'll rank up since we all get the same amount of BS dice.

And, no matter how good your at-home board game RISK skills are, you're playing a slightly different game here. CC has different settings and features that add a little more complexity, so there's a learning curve. It takes time to get really good across a variety of maps and settings.
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That is a lazy explanation.

every CC player with half a brain that isn't rotting out from the gene therapy injections understands how tainted the dice algo is.

Is simply DOES NOT matter who tries to make excuses. The algo is FUBAR, and those w/ability to rectify it have refused. 2 more players recently quit - i think the past 2 1/2 weeks because of dice. 1 of them messaged me while i was trying to set up some games, and 1 of them blurted it out in game chat.

CC totally dropped the ball eons ago, and can't retain player base because cheating is out of control & dice are garbage.
p.s. i lost 8-0 in the 4th round of a flat rate game couple nights ago, couldn't even get a card. You think you can explain the good/bad equaling out, i've got some prime multi-million Yachts pre-owned by Zelenskiy & his stolen looted taxpayer dollars that i can sell at a bargain. F off.

this place running into the ground cuz of censorship, bad dice, cheating, and incompetence.
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Dice = dice generator by random.org. Its made up of atmospheric white noise so its random. Figure out white noise to have a bit of an edge. But digital dice will always be some algorytm. The dice are not rigged. Its an algorytm. Based on atmospheric noise.. what more random do you want?
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SoN!c wrote:Dice = dice generator by random.org. Its made up of atmospheric white noise so its random. Figure out white noise to have a bit of an edge. But digital dice will always be some algorytm. The dice are not rigged. Its an algorytm. Based on atmospheric noise.. what more random do you want?
its a streaky algorithm haha my scores been plummeting cant win a roll of late, lost 12/12 4v3s earlier :D
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Murphalot wrote:That is a lazy explanation.

every CC player with half a brain that isn't rotting out from the gene therapy injections understands how tainted the dice algo is.

Is simply DOES NOT matter who tries to make excuses. The algo is FUBAR, and those w/ability to rectify it have refused. 2 more players recently quit - i think the past 2 1/2 weeks because of dice. 1 of them messaged me while i was trying to set up some games, and 1 of them blurted it out in game chat.

CC totally dropped the ball eons ago, and can't retain player base because cheating is out of control & dice are garbage.
p.s. i lost 8-0 in the 4th round of a flat rate game couple nights ago, couldn't even get a card. You think you can explain the good/bad equaling out, i've got some prime multi-million Yachts pre-owned by Zelenskiy & his stolen looted taxpayer dollars that i can sell at a bargain. F off.

this place running into the ground cuz of censorship, bad dice, cheating, and incompetence.
Lazy? Your explanation sounds like a Conspiracy Theory.

Yes, more of the USUAL drivel about bad dice, and cheaters, and how mods ruin this site. After this post, I am inclined to ignore Murphalot even MORE. I just lost a battle 6v1, BUT won 13v15 on the same turn. Win some, lose some, and THEN complain about Bad Luck...!

Accept the FACT that DICE and their Randomness, however generated, are PART of this GAME. So are the LUCK of Cards. If you don't like DICE, or Luck or Cards, play chess (or checkers, or Reversi). I play chess, on CC, too; it's FUN, but I enjoy RISK more.
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jusplay4fun wrote:
Murphalot wrote:That is a lazy explanation.

every CC player with half a brain that isn't rotting out from the gene therapy injections understands how tainted the dice algo is.

Is simply DOES NOT matter who tries to make excuses. The algo is FUBAR, and those w/ability to rectify it have refused. 2 more players recently quit - i think the past 2 1/2 weeks because of dice. 1 of them messaged me while i was trying to set up some games, and 1 of them blurted it out in game chat.

CC totally dropped the ball eons ago, and can't retain player base because cheating is out of control & dice are garbage.
p.s. i lost 8-0 in the 4th round of a flat rate game couple nights ago, couldn't even get a card. You think you can explain the good/bad equaling out, i've got some prime multi-million Yachts pre-owned by Zelenskiy & his stolen looted taxpayer dollars that i can sell at a bargain. F off.

this place running into the ground cuz of censorship, bad dice, cheating, and incompetence.
Lazy? Your explanation sounds like a Conspiracy Theory.

Yes, more of the USUAL drivel about bad dice, and cheaters, and how mods ruin this site. After this post, I am inclined to ignore Murphalot even MORE. I just lost a battle 6v1, BUT won 13v15 on the same turn. Win some, lose some, and THEN complain about Bad Luck...!

Accept the FACT that DICE and their Randomness, however generated, are PART of this GAME. So are the LUCK of Cards. If you don't like DICE, or Luck or Cards, play chess (or checkers, or Reversi). I play chess, on CC, too; it's FUN, but I enjoy RISK more.
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Rushing777 wrote: its a streaky algorithm haha my scores been plummeting cant win a roll of late, lost 12/12 4v3s earlier :D
I just won a 8v8, advanced 7.. but then lost every roll with that 7 vs a 1..so it evens out I guess
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zynmaster wrote:
This is one of the most informative, well thought out and articulated posts about the dice issue i have ever seen. the black jesus is impressed...-Jesus noir
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