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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:36 am
by Optimus Prime
I just want to put in my two cents that I really think the newsletter would be better served as a monthly publication. My reasoning is that most tournament last far longer than 2 weeks (with the exception of only a few) and if anything they last at least a couple of months. In a two-week period there is not going to be much of a change.
However, in regards to reporting on new tournaments and tournaments that are actively seeking players, a monthly publication is not nearly frequent enough, neither is every two weeks. The new tournaments and new sign-ups take far less than 2 weeks on average. At least, that is my experience, perhaps that isn't the case for everyone else.
Just thinking out loud.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:45 am
by TheKidsTrumpet
I'm in as well, if there is still space available for signing up for a subscription.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:46 am
by Aerial Attack
OPie,
You bring up some valid points. The solution would be if the Editor in Chief of the Newsletter was also a Tournament Director.
As it is now, anyone can create a thread about a new tournament at any time. Once that tourney is filled, they ask a TD for privileges. This is a good system and provides a great amount of flexibility (a little less work for the TD too).
A potential new system (going back to the tiered
Tournament Organizer thread) would be that TOs submit their ideas to a Tournament Director in advance. The TDs could then gauge how many potential people the different tournaments would require. If they had a huge tournament (say 256 players), that might be the only one they release for 2 days. On the other hand, if they had three Point Grabbers (16 players each) - they could release all three on the same day.
The newsletter would have the dates (and TOs, size, maps, themes, etc.) for all tournaments to be released in the next two weeks.
I realize that this is an incredible increase in responsibility for Tournament Directors.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:06 pm
by militant
put me down for subscription please

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:22 pm
by Optimus Prime
Aerial Attack wrote:OPie,
You bring up some valid points. The solution would be if the Editor in Chief of the Newsletter was also a Tournament Director.
As it is now, anyone can create a thread about a new tournament at any time. Once that tourney is filled, they ask a TD for privileges. This is a good system and provides a great amount of flexibility (a little less work for the TD too).
A potential new system (going back to the tiered
Tournament Organizer thread) would be that TOs submit their ideas to a Tournament Director in advance. The TDs could then gauge how many potential people the different tournaments would require. If they had a huge tournament (say 256 players), that might be the only one they release for 2 days. On the other hand, if they had three Point Grabbers (16 players each) - they could release all three on the same day.
The newsletter would have the dates (and TOs, size, maps, themes, etc.) for all tournaments to be released in the next two weeks.
I realize that this is an incredible increase in responsibility for Tournament Directors.
Hmmmm....this is an interesting idea you have here Aerial Attack. I wonder what the actual Tournament Directors would think of such a thing. I don't believe that any of them at the moment would have the time to take on such a project, but I can see how a future Tournament Director could be created to have this role specifically. Perhaps they could even be given a different title or something to symbolize the distinction.
Having access to the tournament information for that person would be relatively easy. No matter which Director receives the tournament privilege request they could easily forward it along to the new Director in charge of said newsletter.
I'm not sure that having a system installed where prior permission to create the thread would be all that good. It's hard enough to find a good tournament organizer at the moment and you wouldn't want to scare off the potential new ones with extra red tape. However, I don't think that really matters. If there was a Tournament Director in place to specifically work on this project it shouldn't be a problem.
I myself would suggest having new "Tournament Assistants" or something along those lines that would specifically have the duties of:
1. Encouraging Tournament Organizers
2. Running official tournaments (perhaps 2 each at time)
3. Keeping a "Stickied Newsletter" updated on a regular basis.
Of course, what information that newsletter should include would be interesting to discuss. It is easy enough to see the records for individual players in the respective tournament threads. Or at least it is when the tournament organizer knows what they are doing. I think information that would be worthwhile would be:
1. Currently Active Tournaments (including status)
2. Completed Tournament Hall of Fame (list names of winners)
3. Upcoming Tournaments (brief description of format and length)
4. Tournaments seeking players (brief description of format and length)
Now, I know there was a similar system in place not that long ago because I have had some discussion with AK_iceman about it. The main reason it no longer exists is because of the difficulty in keeping the records up to date. It was time consuming and the Tournament Directors had a hard time finding the information they needed due to the high percentage of abandoned tournaments.
In any light, if something were to be created it would have to be from this point on as going back to find all the old information would be tough. Although, it could be added over time as it was dug up from the depths of wherever it is.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:29 pm
by pelato
i'll subscribe sounds cool
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:10 pm
by Gozar
Lots of nice ideas being tossed around.
I must say this. If you are going to report on tournaments that are opening soon or now open, once a month is not nearly enough.
For example, Optimus Prime filled his 16 player Point Grabbers 5 in about 4 hours? maybe less? Even my 125 player tourney only took a week to get enough folks in.
If I was planning an upcoming one, I could send an approximate start date to the newsletter though. But a month is a long time I think. You should maybe shoot for bi-weekly, with certain sections updated more frequently.
Just some ideas
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:14 pm
by Optimus Prime
Gozar wrote:Lots of nice ideas being tossed around.
I must say this. If you are going to report on tournaments that are opening soon or now open, once a month is not nearly enough.
For example, Optimus Prime filled his 16 player Point Grabbers 5 in about 4 hours? maybe less? Even my 125 player tourney only took a week to get enough folks in.
If I was planning an upcoming one, I could send an approximate start date to the newsletter though. But a month is a long time I think. You should maybe shoot for bi-weekly, with certain sections updated more frequently.
Just some ideas
I think it was less than 3 actually. EDIT: 2 hours 34 minutes
Sending approximate start dates is a really good idea. Especially if the tournament organizer is one that is well recognized. It will give players a chance to clear out slots or to know things are coming up.
Just imagine if I had announced Point Grabbers V a week early.....I bet I could have filled it in less than 30 minutes...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:26 pm
by pascalleke
yeah

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:38 pm
by GreecePwns
I like the ideas coming out of this...here's some of the things I would like to address.
I chose the PM system because, considering that I can't sticky threads, I'm avoiding the risk of people not being able to read it before the thread leaves the top...I know people can just look for it, but it just makes it more personal/convenient.
I also chose the bi-weekly because it allows for something to happen in tournaments and games to finish, while not having too much happen to be behind. Maybe 2 separate newletters...one bi-weekly with all the info, while one weekly short message with new tournaments open for registration that week.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:40 pm
by Optimus Prime
That makes a little more sense now.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:43 pm
by Coleman
I guess I'll subscribe.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:46 pm
by GreecePwns
Coleman wrote:I guess I'll subscribe.

You find this a joke? Well you know what's also funny? YOUR FACE!

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:10 pm
by johnboy
Sounds great count me in please.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:37 pm
by yorkiepeter
put me on the list pls
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:11 pm
by dominationnation
put me on the list.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:58 am
by pascalleke
put me on the list

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:33 am
by Keellan
I'd definitely subscribe
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:52 am
by Godd
i see you did not add me, feel free to do so
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:00 am
by LLLUUUKKKEEE
good idea
probably twice weekly
sign me up please
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:56 pm
by Danelle
Put me on the list
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:25 pm
by Stoney229
i'd like it if it tells me about new tournaments
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:18 am
by GreecePwns
Stoney229 wrote:i'd like it if it tells me about new tournaments
That it will.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:44 pm
by pelato
can you add me to the list please
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:13 pm
by KingPrime
i'd like it.