Streaker's Third Mafia - Archive please.

[Iron Butterfly]

btw mafia are dicks.

i shot mets last game day 1, and you guys n0 him. so rude

I'd lynch who ever mtamb wants to lynch.

So atm thats Me

besides that its more of, who wouldn't i lynch. and thats just tamb

Storr explain this post. This crap bugs me.

Virus can wait deadline is monday. he did say he might be inactive before the game so waiting around for him to play wastes time.

[StorrZerg]

explain what. im town reading mtamb and thats it

[Iron Butterfly]

btw mafia are dicks.

i shot mets last game day 1, and you guys n0 him. so rude


Your whole post was a response to me not Mtam.
What is this stuff?

[StorrZerg]

i meant what i said?

mets got a raw deal last game, being shot by me, then rejoining as mafia.

Then dies n1 after pushing a town. weird as hell to do something like that.

[legionnare]

Virus has been flying pretty under the radar, which for him can be a scum sign... I agree with the pressure on him, would be good to see him post more, and if he doesn't start sounding more town, then I wouldn't oppose his lynching.

Legion hasn't done anything particularly scummy today, but also hasn't been very towny either... his recent posts are just generic comments "scum has to be somewhere, who knows which group they're in though". He also has a "gut" feeling that virus is town... maybe legion and virus are the scum pair?

How do you come to the conclusion that me and virus are mafia pair? I state my gut feeling about virus, a player who has so far provided nothing much to the game, why would I connect myself to virus in any way, if I was even a half way decent Mafia player I would know not to try and speak my thoughts about a player who is inactive.

Are trying to throw suspicion elsewhere to cover for your scummyness? Did Mtam calling you out shake you?

Voting Virus at this point would only make sense if we knew he is actively reading, if he doesn't contribute he gets modkilled. I say we up the pressure on Hotshot instead.

Vote Hotshot

[Iron Butterfly]

i meant what i said?

mets got a raw deal last game, being shot by me, then rejoining as mafia.

Then dies n1 after pushing a town. weird as hell to do something like that.

Yeh and so what. Mafia are mean and are suppose to kill Town to win.

[HotShot53]

No change at all in how you would read the other?

That depends how the rest of the day goes/what they post etc.

Virus has been flying pretty under the radar, which for him can be a scum sign... I agree with the pressure on him, would be good to see him post more, and if he doesn't start sounding more town, then I wouldn't oppose his lynching.

Legion hasn't done anything particularly scummy today, but also hasn't been very towny either... his recent posts are just generic comments "scum has to be somewhere, who knows which group they're in though". He also has a "gut" feeling that virus is town... maybe legion and virus are the scum pair?

How do you come to the conclusion that me and virus are mafia pair? I state my gut feeling about virus, a player who has so far provided nothing much to the game, why would I connect myself to virus in any way, if I was even a half way decent Mafia player I would know not to try and speak my thoughts about a player who is inactive.

Are trying to throw suspicion elsewhere to cover for your scummyness? Did Mtam calling you out shake you?

Voting Virus at this point would only make sense if we knew he is actively reading, if he doesn't contribute he gets modkilled. I say we up the pressure on Hotshot instead.

Vote Hotshot

I said that because virus is getting pressure... if you are his scum buddy, obviously you'd like to decrease the pressure, thus stating the "gut feeling" that he's town.

I'm not "trying to throw suspicion elsewhere"; right now all the suspicion is on you and virus (and some on storr), until your vote no-one was voting me at the moment, so I'm not exactly sure why I should have been shaking lol.

And personally... you throwing out another OMGUS vote doesn't exactly help your case in my eyes, so my vote will stay where it is.

[StorrZerg]

Technically you had 2 votes this day earlier, so.... that is what legionnare is talking about.

[legionnare]

No change at all in how you would read the other?

That depends how the rest of the day goes/what they post etc.

Virus has been flying pretty under the radar, which for him can be a scum sign... I agree with the pressure on him, would be good to see him post more, and if he doesn't start sounding more town, then I wouldn't oppose his lynching.

Legion hasn't done anything particularly scummy today, but also hasn't been very towny either... his recent posts are just generic comments "scum has to be somewhere, who knows which group they're in though". He also has a "gut" feeling that virus is town... maybe legion and virus are the scum pair?

How do you come to the conclusion that me and virus are mafia pair? I state my gut feeling about virus, a player who has so far provided nothing much to the game, why would I connect myself to virus in any way, if I was even a half way decent Mafia player I would know not to try and speak my thoughts about a player who is inactive.

Are trying to throw suspicion elsewhere to cover for your scummyness? Did Mtam calling you out shake you?

Voting Virus at this point would only make sense if we knew he is actively reading, if he doesn't contribute he gets modkilled. I say we up the pressure on Hotshot instead.

Vote Hotshot

I said that because virus is getting pressure... if you are his scum buddy, obviously you'd like to decrease the pressure, thus stating the "gut feeling" that he's town.

I'm not "trying to throw suspicion elsewhere"; right now all the suspicion is on you and virus (and some on storr), until your vote no-one was voting me at the moment, so I'm not exactly sure why I should have been shaking lol.

And personally... you throwing out another OMGUS vote doesn't exactly help your case in my eyes, so my vote will stay where it is.

Here, I highlighted the part you seem to have missed, i.e. that why would I try and dig an inactive scumbuddy out of any pressure he is under?~

[mtamburini]

UNVOTE I think stor is town.

[HotShot53]

Technically you had 2 votes this day earlier, so.... that is what legionnare is talking about.

Both of which had been removed before the post he quoted... so at the time I made the post, I wasn't under any pressure to need to divert pressure elsewhere. However, that seems to be exactly what Legionnare is trying to do with his OMGUS vote...

Here, I highlighted the part you seem to have missed, i.e. that why would I try and dig an inactive scumbuddy out of any pressure he is under?~

Because, if he is your scumbuddy, you'd rather him alive than dead, and you figured a little "gut feeling" comment wouldn't attract much attention but might influence people's opinions. With only 2 scum in this game, it is a lot harder for scum to just let their only buddy get lynched than if there were 3 or 4 scum.

[legionnare]

Because, if he is your scumbuddy, you'd rather him alive than dead, and you figured a little "gut feeling" comment wouldn't attract much attention but might influence people's opinions. With only 2 scum in this game, it is a lot harder for scum to just let their only buddy get lynched than if there were 3 or 4 scum.

Head, meet brick wall. Brick wall, head.

Regardless of how many scum there are, attaching to someone as toxic as virus is would be suicide for any scum.

Strike haven't heard from you in a while, what are your thoughts?

[strike wolf]

I think Hotshot had a point, it wasnt overly strong but your reaction to it has me more interested than his actual point. This is not the first time you have voted someone who was throwing suspicion your way. I find this suspicious. I also find your excuse that you woulf not protect Virus as a scum buddy not only flimsy but wifom. I also think that Virus needs to be replaced.

[virus90]

i am here! although some of you might rather have me dead already, but well.
First of all my apologies for my absence last days, i arrived in france today for some holiday but it was a rollercoaster getting away havent done much else then work and sleep and fixed meetings last days so wasnt able to catch up.
as i said i just arrived in france, and we have WIFI access, so i will be able to be here. but its probably limited to my evenings since during the days i will be out. so thats the update.

@ Strikewolf wed 4 directed at me:

Third post after being prompted about his activity from Mets.

First, easy comment on the 27 minute argument.
Second, easy answer about Crasp argument drawing no conclusions on the issue.
Third, comments on Legionaire...Meh logic that could also be applied to him at this point in the game as he has yet to do much to advance the game or follow through with earlier questions.
Ends with being the third vote on Legionaire. Possible bandwagon vote.

i dont agree that me voting legionaire was the same day 1 as legion voting IB. he voted unvoted, i voted, described why and stayed with my vote, i hoped he would be lynched but apparently the majority prefered to lynch charm. so in my opinion thats different.

also in reaction to strike: about my last post day 1.
i posted i could change to charm, cause i thought an absolute majority was needed at that point. hotshot then pointed out that wasnt nescesary so i stayed on legionaire and hoped that someone would switch to him 2 when i was asleep.

in reaction to strikes comments on my post beginning day 2. these where cause suddenly without apparent reason storr and mtam where voting hotshot, first i wanted to know what i missed, then they started fighting and i thought like wtf is this, please explain. and then, well i was gone till now.

so thats about explaining my previous posts.
then to who i think is scummy:
my prime suspect is IB, for this post:

From my perspective I have a 33% of picking mafia as I have 6 people to choose from. Those odds increase though on how I choose to read people. Unless we have PRs then my whole choice is a big guessing game based on who I think is Town and Mafia with no other proof then how I perceive their behavior. In other words I could be completely wrong.

Mtam I believe is Town just from his manic posting style. He comes across as righteous and was first out of the gate to latch on to someone. That does not make his case on HS strong. In fact its not a case just his perception.

Strike I am leaning Town...his first post seemed like he was trying to honestly read everyone and seemed very in depth...it just struck me as non mafia. That's my perception.

Storr a complete Enigma this game. I have a variety of theories but it would be just WIFOM domino theory. he could easily be scum.

Hotshot. I had him as Town in beginning and am still leaning that way. Mtam and HS could easily be both Town but highly unlikely they are both mafia. If one flips mafia the other is Town. I do not however see a case to lynch HS.

Which in my book leaves Virus and Legionnare. VT games are so much harder because we have limited to no information to work with. All we have is the perception they leave. What are the odds that both these guys are mafia...the same as last game? Nothing of real substance posted. My top 3 candidates would be Virus, Legionnare and Storr.

I think there is at least one mafia there.

in this post he kind of says all i guess are town, expect for legionairre and virus, they might be scum. in my opinion he is keeping people as friends this way by saying he thinks they are town. and then the other day 1 suspicion (legion) as target and me as just being accused by strike.

basicly the rest of the talk was about me being scum or scumbuddies with legion, not much more talk then that, i think my current post will move the discussion enough, and to end with a bombshell.. (Well follow up my post)

vote ib

[strike wolf]

Lol. Not at your defense. I havent read it yet. Just you posting immediately suggesting that replacement.

[strike wolf]

I forgot to mention. My biggest doubt on Virus and Legion being scum buddies is Virus vkting him day 1. It did not feel like an attempt to bus.

[Iron Butterfly]

i am here! although some of you might rather have me dead already, but well.
First of all my apologies for my absence last days, i arrived in france today for some holiday but it was a rollercoaster getting away havent done much else then work and sleep and fixed meetings last days so wasnt able to catch up.
as i said i just arrived in france, and we have WIFI access, so i will be able to be here. but its probably limited to my evenings since during the days i will be out. so thats the update.

@ Strikewolf wed 4 directed at me:

Third post after being prompted about his activity from Mets.

First, easy comment on the 27 minute argument.
Second, easy answer about Crasp argument drawing no conclusions on the issue.
Third, comments on Legionaire...Meh logic that could also be applied to him at this point in the game as he has yet to do much to advance the game or follow through with earlier questions.
Ends with being the third vote on Legionaire. Possible bandwagon vote.

i dont agree that me voting legionaire was the same day 1 as legion voting IB. he voted unvoted, i voted, described why and stayed with my vote, i hoped he would be lynched but apparently the majority prefered to lynch charm. so in my opinion thats different.

also in reaction to strike: about my last post day 1.
i posted i could change to charm, cause i thought an absolute majority was needed at that point. hotshot then pointed out that wasnt nescesary so i stayed on legionaire and hoped that someone would switch to him 2 when i was asleep.

in reaction to strikes comments on my post beginning day 2. these where cause suddenly without apparent reason storr and mtam where voting hotshot, first i wanted to know what i missed, then they started fighting and i thought like wtf is this, please explain. and then, well i was gone till now.

so thats about explaining my previous posts.
then to who i think is scummy:
my prime suspect is IB, for this post:

From my perspective I have a 33% of picking mafia as I have 6 people to choose from. Those odds increase though on how I choose to read people. Unless we have PRs then my whole choice is a big guessing game based on who I think is Town and Mafia with no other proof then how I perceive their behavior. In other words I could be completely wrong.

Mtam I believe is Town just from his manic posting style. He comes across as righteous and was first out of the gate to latch on to someone. That does not make his case on HS strong. In fact its not a case just his perception.

Strike I am leaning Town...his first post seemed like he was trying to honestly read everyone and seemed very in depth...it just struck me as non mafia. That's my perception.

Storr a complete Enigma this game. I have a variety of theories but it would be just WIFOM domino theory. he could easily be scum.

Hotshot. I had him as Town in beginning and am still leaning that way. Mtam and HS could easily be both Town but highly unlikely they are both mafia. If one flips mafia the other is Town. I do not however see a case to lynch HS.

Which in my book leaves Virus and Legionnare. VT games are so much harder because we have limited to no information to work with. All we have is the perception they leave. What are the odds that both these guys are mafia...the same as last game? Nothing of real substance posted. My top 3 candidates would be Virus, Legionnare and Storr.

I think there is at least one mafia there.

in this post he kind of says all i guess are town, expect for legionairre and virus, they might be scum. in my opinion he is keeping people as friends this way by saying he thinks they are town. and then the other day 1 suspicion (legion) as target and me as just being accused by strike.

basicly the rest of the talk was about me being scum or scumbuddies with legion, not much more talk then that, i think my current post will move the discussion enough, and to end with a bombshell.. (Well follow up my post)

vote ib

The simple fact of the matter is i truly have no idea who scum are. we wont know till tomorrow if we have a Doc and cop. We know there are only 2 mafia and the rest Town. I have stated my list and why. My stances change depending on how people post, which is the only thing to go on.

Seeing how you are posting now...my question to you is how do my posts compare with others on your scum meter? I have no problem you voting me if that's what you believe in a logical way BUT you post nothing logical. How do my posts compre with with others who have posted? The fact that you say BOMBSHELL with your vote tells me that YOU believe your vote will
be a surprise to others. That others will not expect you to do so and that you expect others to be surprised by such a vote.

If its obvious I am scum why is your vote a bombshell?

So forward the discussion PLEASE....

[virus90]

@ strike, well you fastposted me, if you look at the times you see there is a 1 min difference.

@ ib, i thought maybe this will spark a huge discussion in no time since no one was really on you, but so fat that didnt happen, i expected people to attack me for my proposterous (not my opinion) vote or something, since i was already in the picture for inactivity.

as for my case beeing logic in my opinion there is logic to it, i usually try to get some people in my pocket by saying they are probably town or something when i am mafia. So you posted a long list with almost only people you think are town, or probably town, and the 2 people most looked at as probably mafia. since i know i am not, that made me suspicious of you. maybe its not logical to all, but in my opinion its logical.

Compared to others your post mentioned stood out as being possibly scummy for reasons explained, logical or not. besides this, a post of day 1 has bothered me since day 1.

A large part of my reasoning for voting her was her soft claim. Yes mafia would know she is Town but she lets them know what she is and makes the odds easier for them in their nk. With her gone we no longer need to second guess.

the "logic" of lynching someone who claimed VT and possibly is VT instead of trying to find real scum. that reallt strikes me.. so 2 of your posts bothered me as possibly scummy, thats more then any one else so for me the reason to vote you.

[Iron Butterfly]

All this stuff that has "bothered" you but you kept to your self.Never mentioned. Now we have 24 or less before deadline. Yes I know you warned us you would be busy and away from game ahead of time but it still has effected the flow of the game. We need a lynch. I need to vote.

Vote virus

[legionnare]

@Mtam, you've been trying to build a case against hotshot since pretty much the first post, now that there is vote from and desire from elsewhere you take your vote off him and don't put it back to increase the pressure on him. You are the one who stated that hotshot should have been the lynch for d1 and now for today so why the sudden change of heart?

[strike wolf]

Sorry. Was on briefly earlier but didnt get around to posting. [b][Vote Virus/b]. It was pretty much always going to be him as long as he was a legitimate option. I will say that I actually feel that Legion is more likely to be town if Virus flops scum than scum. Like I said, it did not feel like Virus was bussing Legion when he voted.

[virus90]

well to claim:
i am a VT
Good luck town your going to need it.

[Streaker]

Vote count:

Hotshot53 (1):Mtamburini, Storrzerg, legionnare
Legionnare (1): Hotshot53
Storrzerg (0): Mtamburini, Storrzerg
virus90 (3): Storrzerg, Iron Butterfly, strike wolf
Iron Butterfly (1): virus90


Players not voting: Mtamburini

I was away for the weekend, so no vote count or prods could be sent to vote. A 24 hour extension will happen, you have until Tuesday 10th March 02.00 CC time.

Anyone not voting by then WILL be lynched. Currently virus90 is set to be lynched.

[StorrZerg]

unvote

Me thinks he town

[mtamburini]

unvote

Me thinks he town

I kinda agree sadly, where do you want to go?

I think IB probably town and one between hot and legion most likely so POE strike?