autoload's 19 Player Mafia Game #1 --- Days 2-3 --

[supercram]

and besides which he has offered hard evidence that he is pro-town. i think you guys just didn't see it.

[vgmmaster]

I got to EOS some people.
EOS: SEnfive, Senfive has been accusing many people and when the case goes stale, he moves onto some one else.
EOs: Kokunai, Kokunai still hasn't posted yet, and evidence is against him, and his posts aren't many and give very little detail.
EOS: Trestain, HE claims doctor oddly, and voted Nyvek to be lynched 4th, also he claims he "Saved" Wicked.
Though all 3 are very suspisious, I want anwsers so I'm going to
Vote: Wisse you barley post and when you do it's a FOS vote with out any logic in it, care to explain why your doing this.

Oops, forgot the bold.

I will also: FOS: Senfive. While he does like to accuse people and appears to change the subject often, I wonder if he's even listening to half of the stuff being said. Fircoal already mentioned that I voted for Roger Dodger, but because of how Autoload counts, my vote was not taken into effect. Also, it appears that Senfive and P Gizzle have a rivalry with each other as well.

SFOS: Kokunai You voted agaist Master Bush with Roger Dodger. Perhaps you tried to vote together to start a bandwagon against MB. If that's the case, it's very possible that you are mafia seeing how you and RD voted together on MB. And seeing how you don't post at all, I am being led to believe that you're playing a textbook mafia game. In other words, you're not posting so you don't bring suspicion to yourself.

PFOS: Dummies As the case with Kokunai, you are very inactive and may also be playing a textbook mafia game.

For the Trestain thing, I'm also curious as to why the mafia didn't kill him. Perhaps they didn't believe he was the doc. But even if that is true, you'd think that they'd take the chance anyways, as he could have been telling the truth. That, or Trestain could be a mafia doctor. He's a doctor (as he claims), but he also works with the mafia (which is why he wasn't killed at night).

SWFOS: Trestain

[supercram]

nah i don't think kokunai is the mafia,
.

based on what, exactly?? why do i think you are being cavalier about this game.

[vgmmaster]

First up you did suddenly change you were voting Kokonai then all of a sudden when he reached 3 or 4 votes you switched tactics and have been after me ever since.

I have been through why i role claimed many many times senfive and you have chose to ignore it every time but lets give it one more shot.

When i role claimed everyone was going along with the theory that because mach and wicked were killed night 1 and 2 that the mafia must be someone that has played with them. I know for a fact that Wicked was not killed by mafia as she was my choice to save the night she died. The point i was trying to get across was to get everyone to leave this theory as it is not true, I felt that I needed some proof to justify this and went about it all the wrong way.

I'm still having trouble believing that you are the doctor 100% without a doubt. The only reason, is the part in your quote that I bolded. You say you saved wicked, yet she died. That leaves me to conclude one of two things.

Either:

A) You're lying

or

B) You're telling the truth, but your night action was sent in after the mafia's. Therefore, wicked was dead before you could save her.

Option B may be possible, but I don't know how often that this would occur in a mafia game.

[supercram]

I know for a fact that Wicked was not killed by mafia as she was my choice to save the night she died.

SenFive, does this mean Trestain's lying?

[reverend_kyle]

vote trestain


even if he is doctor his story doesnt add up.. and if we lynched the doctor it WOULD help us find out things that could help the town. I'll probably get accused of being mafia for this but at this point I dont care.. we need something good and we need it fast.

[supercram]

i really don't understand why everyone is letting kokunai off the hook.

i understand the views on trestain, but can't we just have him be investigated tonight?

[Wisse]

I got to EOS some people.
EOS: SEnfive, Senfive has been accusing many people and when the case goes stale, he moves onto some one else.
EOs: Kokunai, Kokunai still hasn't posted yet, and evidence is against him, and his posts aren't many and give very little detail.
EOS: Trestain, HE claims doctor oddly, and voted Nyvek to be lynched 4th, also he claims he "Saved" Wicked.
Though all 3 are very suspisious, I want anwsers so I'm going to
Vote: Wisse you barley post and when you do it's a FOS vote with out any logic in it, care to explain why your doing this.

Oops, forgot the bold.

ok i'll explain myself:
i said this:
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nah i don't think kokunai is the mafia,
i FOS, RK & SenFive
and i VOTE: Trestain
for the same reason as before...
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i did already mention why i FOS senfive and voted trestain in day 2, but i'll repeat it for you

Trestain because i do think he lies about being a doc, i think the mafia would have killed wicked and not the serial killer (if there is one (he claims there is one)) and he said he protected her, i don't beleve that, and why did he post he is a doc, wouldn't he be killed than last night? the mafia would do that wouldn't they? and he said it in coded, whats the reason for that? i don't know...

RK because he doesn't talk like he always do, i miss the jokes etc.

And senfive becuase i think he acts strange, but i am not sure about him yet...

[Senfive]

I know for a fact that Wicked was not killed by mafia as she was my choice to save the night she died.

SenFive, does this mean Trestain's lying?

Honestly I have no way of knowing this. My best guess is that she chose to kill someone and that person turned out being a Trigger role Like in andy's last game, which means,

A) the doc couldn't have saved her if the Trigger was activated.

or

B) Trestain is lying.

I unvoted Trestain due to the fact in the off chance that he is telling the Truth, I don't want to give the mafia another power role. Hopefully the cop will live through the night to get to post the evidence.

Anyway. I have seen only 3 posts by for dummies. Why is that?

[vgmmaster]

I unvoted Trestain due to the fact in the off chance that he is telling the Truth, I don't want to give the mafia another power role. Hopefully the cop will live through the night to get to post the evidence.

You think it's possible that the cop may already be dead? There are 3 unknowns. They may just be townies, but it's also possible that they may be power roles as well.

[HoussamTheGreat]

After that last post, I now dont trust Senfive at all

unvote Kokunai

vote senfive

this is a bad idea.

Seriously. Believe the guy.

[for dummies]

I have seen only 3 posts by for dummies. Why is that?

to all the people who uspect me because i don't talk a lot. sorry i do not have full tiem computer acess like many of you do also. i spend a lot of time at school or with friends leaving minimal amounts of time for posting. on the other hand i do read everything everyone else says i agree with vgmmaster that we should be careful especially with role claiming because we don't know how many power roles are gone or not. to go back to my last post Kokunai hasn't said a word of defense after he seemed to be leading people away from a mafia member and trying to put suspicion onto someone else. i think he is trying to lay low now and hope that people forget about him. right now it seems to be working. i say we lynch him and see what his role was. from there we can go on and discuss senfive and trestain. until then still:

Vote: Kokunai

[vgmmaster]

After that last post, I now dont trust Senfive at all

unvote Kokunai

vote senfive

this is a bad idea.

Seriously. Believe the guy.

Two people (Houssam and Supercram) are thinking that voting against Senfive is a bad thing. I'm beginning to wonder if any of you are mafia or masons. Just seems a bit suspicious that you're all saying it's bad, yet not explaining why it's bad.

FOS: Supercram, Senfive, Houssam

[supercram]

Two people (Houssam and Supercram) are thinking that voting against Senfive is a bad thing. I'm beginning to wonder if any of you are mafia or masons. Just seems a bit suspicious that you're all saying it's bad, yet not explaining why it's bad.

FOS: Supercram, Senfive, Houssam

i led teh charge to lynch RD. and she was mafia. if you think i might at all be pro-town, then you just have to trust me.

in mafia, people slip clues to one another. you've missed one. and if i point it out to you, i am poitning it out to mafia as well. just trust me, SenFive is not mafia. dunno about Houssam

[HoussamTheGreat]

Two people (Houssam and Supercram) are thinking that voting against Senfive is a bad thing. I'm beginning to wonder if any of you are mafia or masons. Just seems a bit suspicious that you're all saying it's bad, yet not explaining why it's bad.

FOS: Supercram, Senfive, Houssam

Not masons, but cram has been spot on, and I think I saw what he saw in senfive. I trust cram 100%, trust sen 90%. Let's look at konaki or whxtever his name is. In fact let's not talk, let's vote him!

[vgmmaster]

Two people (Houssam and Supercram) are thinking that voting against Senfive is a bad thing. I'm beginning to wonder if any of you are mafia or masons. Just seems a bit suspicious that you're all saying it's bad, yet not explaining why it's bad.

FOS: Supercram, Senfive, Houssam

i led teh charge to lynch RD. and she was mafia. if you think i might at all be pro-town, then you just have to trust me.

in mafia, people slip clues to one another. you've missed one. and if i point it out to you, i am poitning it out to mafia as well. just trust me, SenFive is not mafia. dunno about Houssam

I must have forgotten the fact that you started the thing with lynching RD. If that's the case, then you have my trust. However, I'll check the thread again later and check out the case concerning Senfive then. I'd do it now, but I think I have to leave soon.

[vgmmaster]

Now that I think about it, Supercram has been very helpful in this game. I'm really unsure how this has slipped by me, but I'm currectly going to trust whatever Supercram says.

FOT (Finger Of Trust) - Supercram

I'm still checking out the Senfive case, but he has made a few valid points from what I've seen so far.

[supercram]

Wrap-up of what Cram thinks:

there was a Serial Killer. it was Wicked. she is dead.
supercram is not mafia
Senfive is not mafia
vgmmaster is probably not mafia, because she is willing to trust me.
houssam is probably not mafia for the same reason
Master Bush is probably not mafia (he was teh first vote for RD)
Fircoal is probably not mafia (he agreed with master Bush right away):

But for now, I'm voting Roger Dodger
This is not the first time that she has talked tough like she's a mean mad townie out to kill some mafia...

Also, I think she was playing the n00b card on day 1 and made me real suspisions of her too.

that leaves:
kokunai
RK
Trestain (possible doc, possible liar)
Wisse
for dummies

[supercram]

and aslo:
incandeza
xenhu

[Roger Dodger]

dead men tell no tales

[XenHu]

Ok, now that I've had a chance to digest everything..

Un-vote RK

I believe we have a noob mafia.. Based on the following...

All the mafia victims are experinced players...

Experince=Knowledge=Power=Fear..


So,

FOS: For dummies, Wisse and incandenza..

FD and Wisse only post vote's and FOS's.. Or when their asses are on fire from an acusation.

Quick question: is trestain a vet? Has he been playing in Andy's games?

Lookie here? Trying to find more experinced players to kill.. However, I don't think my answer satisfied him, which is why trestain isn't dead..

For now, I won't vote.. However, I would like you to take heed of what I said if I'm found dead the next day...

-X

[XenHu]

dead men tell no tales

Shut-up scum..You're dead!


-X

[vgmmaster]

To be honest, I thought it might be the other way around.

If experienced players are the ones being killed, there must be at least one, possibly two experienced members in the mafia. Do you really think that noobs would know who the experienced players are?

[XenHu]

Just because they are noobs doesn't mean they can't guess...

Besides, it's not like people haven't said they've been in other mafia games..



-X

[supercram]

and now i've done mroe cross-referencing with who voted for RD

Vote: Mater Bush
I think he is mafia, if he isn't he has no role, if he is then good and RD is too. Besides the fact that he pointed out Trestain on the doc thing. If he is not then it is a dumb thing to point it out. Sure, mafia could have caught it, but still no reason to point it out. It does seem odd that he claimed though nice to know that it isn't 2 groups of mafia though.

again, trying to tie RD's inncocence with MB's innocence. so if we lynched MB and found out he was a townie, we would have to ASSUME that RD was town also? SO scummy.

Wow, senfive's theories really make sense.. and judging from his big change from last game he is clearly not mafia. I'm going to have to say right now there are 3 people on my list
RD
PG
FC.

he later voted rodger dodger. probably not scum.

both for dummies and xenhu also voted for roger dodger. which leaves:

kokunai (the only posts he/she made were to DEFEND roger dodger!)
incandenza
wisse
trestain (ALSO voted for roger dodger. remember, she did not seem upset by that vote. don't you think she would have been mad her mafia buddy turned on her if he was mafia?)