EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness
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Re: EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness
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I find your defense rather absurd CharleCharle wrote:gg Scum well played .... Sonic lost this for town with his absurd theories. There is one chance left for town to win, but Sonic will obviously play right in scum's hand, so town have zero chance in this game.

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If loosing is fun for you, then you will surely enjoy this!!
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official votecount
Charle: 5 - Sonic, Dev, Ragian, Kong, Kingm
Ragian: 1 - Fusibaseball
Charle is revealed to be: Vanilla Town. It is now Night 3. Day 4 will start no later than in 28 hours, please do not post in the meantime.
Charle: 5 - Sonic, Dev, Ragian, Kong, Kingm
Ragian: 1 - Fusibaseball
Charle is revealed to be: Vanilla Town. It is now Night 3. Day 4 will start no later than in 28 hours, please do not post in the meantime.
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Re: EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness
Votanic died, he was 3-shot Tracker.
Town MUST lynch correctly. You may NOT switch your votes.
Why? Because I dont want any person to argue that "player X is town because mafia didnt hammer" and then unvote their vote on player X. It's a toxic game trait.
What this means is that your first vote is final, and that if someone votes someone else the only way town can win is if you vote one of those people: 1 misvote from town will lose the game.
Happy hunting!
Town MUST lynch correctly. You may NOT switch your votes.
Why? Because I dont want any person to argue that "player X is town because mafia didnt hammer" and then unvote their vote on player X. It's a toxic game trait.
What this means is that your first vote is final, and that if someone votes someone else the only way town can win is if you vote one of those people: 1 misvote from town will lose the game.
Happy hunting!
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He 100% needs to choose either of strike or fusi. Definitely a well-played game by mafia, but the reason lynches always go through on townsfolk and fail or are redirected away from other members among us still alive should be obvious at this point. The advantage of three scum working together to shape and change narratives is huge. Just yesterday we had a lynch going strong on strike before it abruptly died and all of a sudden there were multiple people putting strike in their semi cleared less suspicious pile. Then, we had a lynch ready on fusi before strike explicitly complained about it being difficult for "us to redirect the lynch" and fusi (and dev) both show up to support that right away. Lo and behold, we end up lynching another towny as a consequence. I think it would be ridiculous to let them get away with that again here, so king can make his call and we'll all follow it.
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Already teeing up the ole Fusi vote againkongming3 wrote:He 100% needs to choose either of strike or fusi. Definitely a well-played game by mafia, but the reason lynches always go through on townsfolk and fail or are redirected away from other members among us still alive should be obvious at this point. The advantage of three scum working together to shape and change narratives is huge. Just yesterday we had a lynch going strong on strike before it abruptly died and all of a sudden there were multiple people putting strike in their semi cleared less suspicious pile. Then, we had a lynch ready on fusi before strike explicitly complained about it being difficult for "us to redirect the lynch" and fusi (and dev) both show up to support that right away. Lo and behold, we end up lynching another towny as a consequence. I think it would be ridiculous to let them get away with that again here, so king can make his call and we'll all follow it.
We just need to wait 24 hrs to see Rag settle on me then he'll take his cue.
I have half-votes on Rag & Kong right now. I don't care which one. This should be obvious and the game should be over if the vote didn't get completely misdirected yesterday (and shocker, they were both in on that vote too).
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Wooow, look how early Fusi is online today. Are you about to win? 
@Son!c, we need to digest yesterday before rushing votes. Especially since King was in agreement that Charle was scum (and Charle did indeed commit every sin possible...even confirmed town doc was on his case before dying).
My main argument is that Charle played so blatantly scummy that only scum would realise him as a townie. In order to get the easy town lynch, some scum would stay away from the lynch realising that they weren't needed. This way, they can be all "look I didn't vote for town". It happened D2 and it's happening again now. I'm looking at you, Fusi.
@Son!c, we need to digest yesterday before rushing votes. Especially since King was in agreement that Charle was scum (and Charle did indeed commit every sin possible...even confirmed town doc was on his case before dying).
My main argument is that Charle played so blatantly scummy that only scum would realise him as a townie. In order to get the easy town lynch, some scum would stay away from the lynch realising that they weren't needed. This way, they can be all "look I didn't vote for town". It happened D2 and it's happening again now. I'm looking at you, Fusi.

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I was gonna switch to Fusi last moment saturday (1 day before deadline walling everyone who was still on Charle) but i was expecting a scum Charle to do the same (to switch to you after he posted he was not gonna change). And then Charle did just that, he switched his vote to you.. why Charle ffs?Ragian wrote:Wooow, look how early Fusi is online today. Are you about to win?
@Son!c, we need to digest yesterday before rushing votes. Especially since King was in agreement that Charle was scum (and Charle did indeed commit every sin possible...even confirmed town doc was on his case before dying).
My main argument is that Charle played so blatantly scummy that only scum would realise him as a townie. In order to get the easy town lynch, some scum would stay away from the lynch realising that they weren't needed. This way, they can be all "look I didn't vote for town". It happened D2 and it's happening again now. I'm looking at you, Fusi.
I even posted it before he did it:
In hindsight, knowing Charle is town, that last moment switch of his to you following his scumbro Fusi -sealing his fate only 6 hours after i posted that- is pretty blatantly numbskul??"Im pretty sure scum is trying a mislynch between Ragian and Fusi and my money is on a scum Fusi doing just that. Charle was kinda sorta forced to vote him so im thinking a last minute switch from Charle is gonna be the play here"
After saying this???:
Anyways the scumbo theory Fusi-Charle, their vote patterns on top of Charle's "pre-knowledge" impersonating / hinting he was the doc, is dead too.Sonic, read my lips, it is Fusi, Kong and Devante.
Strike, Kong, Fusi and Ragian give me the impression they wanna keep playing: everybody else says "good game scum
Just name one of those four King? A town Strike would have given up by now,?

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Also i kinda sorta miss Votanic in here.
Never thought id say this but its true! Get back in here asap!

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At this point, it pretty much has to be Kong, Ragian and Fusi. I can't 100% rule out Son!c or Dev and in Son!c's case you could even point to him as the primary pusher behind the Charle wagon and trying to rush a lylo situation but it reads more Son!c being Son!c than actually malicious based on what I know of Son!c.
Kong has been scummy since Day 1 and yesterday disappeared for most of the day only to try to push the wagon late. Of course, his target was Fusi who now looks like the final scum but by D4, mafia is likely to bus one of their own as with the lowering numbers, they need some form of town credit to survive upcoming lynches and the likely scum Ragian being the other lynch target makes it even more likely that Kong would want to shift the wagon. If Fusi is the Goon then it makes sense that Kong would prefer his lynch over a scum watcher/roleblocker Ragian and also explain why Ragian has been suspect of Fusi since D1. Now, Kong is trying to press a case on me because I said "us" and playing dumb about who "us" could be when the context clearly refers to town as a whole.
Fusi is likely scum based on his end of the day behavior yesterday. If Kong was right about anything in his last post, it was that there were likely at least two active scum voting. The two who really came out of tbe woodwork were Fusi and Kong. There's alsoRagian's connection with him with the aforementioned light bussing. You could argue that his behavior at the end of the day was self-preservation but he is again out early with unusual (compared to ths rest of the days) activity.
Ragian is kind of an all connections point to ragian situation. Kong is scum=there is evidence of Ragian and Kong defending each other. Fusi is scum=there is evidence of bussing. Even if Son!c is actually the third scum there's an argument that Son!c helped keep the wagon off of Ragian and stuck on either Fusi or Charle. I'd also argue that his behavior and dismissal of the Swang wagon reads as someone who likely knew Swang was going to flip town.
Ragian is probably the safest lynch of the three as there are so many connections pointing his way it seems very unlikely that all of them are coincidence. Fusi would be the next safest lynch. However, a large part of me does want to finally lynch Kong after suspecting him since D1.
Kong has been scummy since Day 1 and yesterday disappeared for most of the day only to try to push the wagon late. Of course, his target was Fusi who now looks like the final scum but by D4, mafia is likely to bus one of their own as with the lowering numbers, they need some form of town credit to survive upcoming lynches and the likely scum Ragian being the other lynch target makes it even more likely that Kong would want to shift the wagon. If Fusi is the Goon then it makes sense that Kong would prefer his lynch over a scum watcher/roleblocker Ragian and also explain why Ragian has been suspect of Fusi since D1. Now, Kong is trying to press a case on me because I said "us" and playing dumb about who "us" could be when the context clearly refers to town as a whole.
Fusi is likely scum based on his end of the day behavior yesterday. If Kong was right about anything in his last post, it was that there were likely at least two active scum voting. The two who really came out of tbe woodwork were Fusi and Kong. There's alsoRagian's connection with him with the aforementioned light bussing. You could argue that his behavior at the end of the day was self-preservation but he is again out early with unusual (compared to ths rest of the days) activity.
Ragian is kind of an all connections point to ragian situation. Kong is scum=there is evidence of Ragian and Kong defending each other. Fusi is scum=there is evidence of bussing. Even if Son!c is actually the third scum there's an argument that Son!c helped keep the wagon off of Ragian and stuck on either Fusi or Charle. I'd also argue that his behavior and dismissal of the Swang wagon reads as someone who likely knew Swang was going to flip town.
Ragian is probably the safest lynch of the three as there are so many connections pointing his way it seems very unlikely that all of them are coincidence. Fusi would be the next safest lynch. However, a large part of me does want to finally lynch Kong after suspecting him since D1.
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Well said Strikestrike wolf wrote:At this point, it pretty much has to be Kong, Ragian and Fusi. I can't 100% rule out Son!c or Dev and in Son!c's case you could even point to him as the primary pusher behind the Charle wagon and trying to rush a lylo situation but it reads more Son!c being Son!c than actually malicious based on what I know of Son!c.
Kong has been scummy since Day 1 and yesterday disappeared for most of the day only to try to push the wagon late. Of course, his target was Fusi who now looks like the final scum but by D4, mafia is likely to bus one of their own as with the lowering numbers, they need some form of town credit to survive upcoming lynches and the likely scum Ragian being the other lynch target makes it even more likely that Kong would want to shift the wagon. If Fusi is the Goon then it makes sense that Kong would prefer his lynch over a scum watcher/roleblocker Ragian and also explain why Ragian has been suspect of Fusi since D1. Now, Kong is trying to press a case on me because I said "us" and playing dumb about who "us" could be when the context clearly refers to town as a whole.
Fusi is likely scum based on his end of the day behavior yesterday. If Kong was right about anything in his last post, it was that there were likely at least two active scum voting. The two who really came out of tbe woodwork were Fusi and Kong. There's alsoRagian's connection with him with the aforementioned light bussing. You could argue that his behavior at the end of the day was self-preservation but he is again out early with unusual (compared to ths rest of the days) activity.
Ragian is kind of an all connections point to ragian situation. Kong is scum=there is evidence of Ragian and Kong defending each other. Fusi is scum=there is evidence of bussing. Even if Son!c is actually the third scum there's an argument that Son!c helped keep the wagon off of Ragian and stuck on either Fusi or Charle. I'd also argue that his behavior and dismissal of the Swang wagon reads as someone who likely knew Swang was going to flip town.
Ragian is probably the safest lynch of the three as there are so many connections pointing his way it seems very unlikely that all of them are coincidence. Fusi would be the next safest lynch. However, a large part of me does want to finally lynch Kong after suspecting him since D1.
However, I think you are one of the three scummies because : let's face it: scum is almost all that is left.. And yes, even thinking Fusi and Ragian are playing scum Theatre at this point making sure one survives to win the end game..
Kong seems most scummy to me so he must be town in this game but yes it could be Kong, Ragian and Fusi, then again it could be you, Ragian and Fusi too.
This game reminds me of something Ragian once said about you; a scum Strike is too experienced to leave any trace or connection to his fellow scum..and that is exactly what we have here.

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Re: EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness
Vote strike
Waited long enough here and fast vote is the play going forward with these ice poker faces..
Oops not in red..but lets go?? Madness
STRIKE will be a wolf strike - stats say its 85% sure we are gonna hit scum because almost zero town left..
Waited long enough here and fast vote is the play going forward with these ice poker faces..
Oops not in red..but lets go?? Madness
STRIKE will be a wolf strike - stats say its 85% sure we are gonna hit scum because almost zero town left..
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Votecount:SoN!c wrote:Vote strike
Waited long enough here and fast vote is the play going forward
Oops not in red..but lets go?? Madness
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Had to add this sonic style:
I loved this game but town win chance is less then 4% on these odds..lets finish it asap?
If Strike is scum he will wannna add a comment on the technicality.. that is his push buttom (*n)STRIKE will be a wolf strike - stats say its 85% sure we are gonna hit scum because almost zero town left..
I loved this game but town win chance is less then 4% on these odds..lets finish it asap?

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STRIKE 99,99% SURE - RAGIAN AND A UNKNOWN THIRD WHO IS STILL TO REVEAL HIMSELF...

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Your confusing me Sonic. How do you go from FUSI - CHARLE - KONG to then it could be Kong, Ragian and Fusi and now on Strike. Seems all over the place.
King wanna chip in here. Waiting to vote on your feedback
King wanna chip in here. Waiting to vote on your feedback
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Well the short version is: we are nowhere and its not the scumbo CharleFusi.. This is Strike-Ragian shit galore because it must be, nobody does it better..and town is fooled and fooled over and over again with zero connections to go on = Signature style Strike

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And also : its either ssSStrike or the Ragian-Fusi sssSScumbo Theatre at this´ point but a gamble is needed here - EW's Back to Basics or semi-open is all about an end game gamble.. ??? Sure is!!
Because it was ssssSsShowing great ssstuff SssSSScumm all sssssssßssSsSsummer long and we dont need to be here any slonger

Re: EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness
I think Strike is likely scum and sonic town, which means I only have one choice here - Vote Strike
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Quick note to whoever the mystery town player(s) is, even if Strike would not have been your choice of candidate, there is now no other option but to vote for him. Even if you might be suspicious of me for instance, as long as you think the chance of both sonic and I being scum is lower than even just one of us being town, you must vote with us.
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Kong is too scummy to be town in this game!
King: vote last but follow!
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